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On 11/11/2023 at 23:06, Jareth said:

Yeah, cool. But they acquiesce - they don't attack, unless they are brave - and there are lots of brave British jews, only they have previously been told they are anti semitic. 

What does this argument even mean? Isn't it just the same argument as saying if you are british and weren't at the marches the other day you acquiesce? Because you haven't made a public declaration? I condemn a lot of things on VT that I wont be making a public declaration on. Does that mean I'm also in this group of acquiessence? I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make.

Soft Power is surely often the least problematic.

On 11/11/2023 at 23:31, Jareth said:

Where is the level of critical condemnation from supporters of Israel? There is no healthy criticism is there, because anyone with critical thought is ostracised - that is the shittiest thing about Israel - there are powerful groups at the top of it who put pressure on others. And that extends  to the UK.  

Why would supporters of them condemn them? - they're supporters of them.

I'm obviously pretty vocal on this site about bias in the media. And I don't believe there is much healthy criticism in our media of the state of Israel either, but then I obviously don't agree with the absolutisms in your post and if im really honest, I flat out dislike the puppet masters of fleet street inference. It's just massively oversimplifying the situation and I can see little reason to do so other than to continually 'not get' what people are saying to you about the way you're choosing to word your posts. Our intelligence communities, Industrial Military Complexes and so on are interwoven. There's a shared agenda on the international stage. None of that suggests a controlling hand from the end of the Med. That we have built a world of global information corporations has little to do with the condemnation (or not) of Israel.

On 11/11/2023 at 23:38, Jareth said:

May I add, the Scots, the Welsh, and certainly the Irish, think Israel is full of shit. But somehow the bigots in England speak for the UK. 

There's a lesson there in where the real power lies in our political system but I don't think it's the one you're trying to make.

21 hours ago, Jareth said:

I'm open to be educated

When though?

Digging out the funky shit on a saturday night. Me and the lovely off to se a mates band in a bit. few beers and a boogie before going out.

15 minutes ago, limpid said:

Jebus

I usually go with Jeebus. Follow the gourd!

monochrome says hi

Don't let Rhod Gilbert see this shop

One of the all time great live performances for me

such a playful drummer

On 07/11/2023 at 19:02, bickster said:

Grrrrrrr!

So I've been thinking on this pehaps more than I shoud have bothered, (it's not knowing about the reason for the shocked reaction really ) but it's been a rainy week nailing tiles on and I've had the time. Even had a chat with MrsVM about it. But It's obviously not about a law of averages nor is it a probability puzzle, we considered chaos theory, but in the end we went for dunno. So what is it, the doing something a million times incorrectly but inadvertantly doing it right one time?

Leaving out Moby Dick seems kinda perverse really from my own list but they have so many great songs to pick from. I'm not sure I'd leave Toad off my top ten Cream songs for example but then it's a smaller body of work to pick from.

5 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said:

It’s ironic that barely any of these far right guys are wearing poppies

Foreign Flowers

2 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Yesterday to celebrate the release of led zep 4 many moons ago they did a top 10 most popular zep songs on radio . What’s your top 10? I will put mine up in a bit .

Yeah, I'll play.

When the Levee Breaks definitely my fave and then in no particular order...

Black Dog

Custard Pie

Rock and Roll

Immigrant Song

Whole Lotta Love

Dazed and Confused

Kashmir

Heartbreaker

Four Sticks

8 hours ago, tonyh29 said:

the Cadbury caramel bar is vile

4 hours ago, magnkarl said:

you'd likely also find people surfing in Swansea Bay

If you wait until sundown they'd probably glow in the dark

Another example of why I dislike the use of group identities, I think it's criminals we don't like in our society, not the kidz of today. Kids are great.

It's that age old political soundbite slogan isn't it, "Tough on crime, but not giving a flying **** about actually ever really considering or addressing the causes of crime"

Why can't people just do what they are told?

1 hour ago, lapal_fan said:

................dehumanising the opposition.  It's always happened in war...................It's not hard to behead or shoot something you don't deem as an equal.

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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire

14 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

Here are some more of Suella Braverman's thin blue line, desperately chasing people down in the hope of persuading them that they've been offended enough to enable them to enforce her ridiculous laws.

 

 

It'd be funny if it wasn't a really serious and worrying step in the wrong direction. Conceived of by psychopaths and sociopaths. Enabled by sychophants and fools.

4 minutes ago, bickster said:

Grrrrrrr!

something something probability

7 hours ago, sne said:

A acquaintance of mine lived and worked in Israel/Palestine on and off for about a decade and made 2 documentaries during that time. One about life in Hebron and one about the the Israeli peace movement. Both are worth a watch if you can find them.

 

 

There was a great documentary, I think it was nominated for the oscars amongst other accolades, called 5 Broken Cameras that I've probably mentioned years ago in this thread. Well worth a watch.