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Bullshit!

 

How about being **** honest and not treating fans like a bunch of thick clearings in the woods with soundbites that say and mean **** all.

How about saying he recognises that the club and the team have been under performing?

How about acknowledging that the team is in ANOTHER relegation battle?

How about accepting that his leadership has not not been as good as should be?

No manager in the world will admit to those things. 

 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/30/roberto-martinez-everton-battle-relegation

 

 

Richard Keys is laying into Lambert on BeIn Sports, saying that interview could've been given after any game in the last 12 weeks. He says if the manager's message is constantly just to keep going, then how is anything going to change.

 

Spot on. A few pundits have been saying the same this weekend.

 

What else can Lambert say? How do you react to defeats? 

 

I hate Man Utd, but really respect Louis Van Gall. He is so open and honest in his press conferences and interviews.

He will say when the team were not good enough and when a player needs to step up his game, not simply "They were excellent"

 

 

However i much i find it baffling does it really matter if someone still supports Lambert? If you want to take it out on someone who finds his record acceptable then its Lerner.

 

I think Lerner is very loyal to people, in general, and it's more that and a generally very conservative business approach than anything else that's keeping PL in a job. We can only hope he's beginning to see that nothing will change if nothing changes. The man's scared. The idea that he would deliberately ruin the club is utterly absurd. It's more a lack of understanding football.

 

 

Who has suggested hes doing it deliberately? Its not that its just he clearly hasn't got what it takes to run a sports team, if he wants to lose hundreds of millions by taking us down then that's his own problem, i wont be there to watch it though. I think he has this unwaivering belief that PL is the right man for the job despite there literally being no evidence to support that idea in nearly 3 years now.

 

He needs to develop a ruthless streak and admit that Lambert has been a mistake, he is going down as one of our worst managers ever already and that's not even a debate that's pretty much fact at this point. 

 

I think another factor is if he did sack him, it's a few more million he has to pay out.

Can't believe there is another owner in world football that would continue to back this manager given what has gone before.

They summed it up perfectly on Sky earlier - "It looks like the owners are simply happy picking up the Sky tv money, no intention to push on, no ambition".

While i agree with this, Lambert has a responsibility to set the team up right, play the right players (Richardson?), leaving Sanchez on for most of the gme while playing awful.

 

For me lambert needs another creative player a winger and a striker on loan or permanent it dosnt matter. Fact is we must carve out cgances and win sawnsea qpr and burnley at home failiure and were down when were at gome we must put pressure on and take our chances. Gil is a very good player on his 2 games we must not allow teams to dictate to us at home.

was your use of G where it should have been H in homage to Carles ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

To dismiss finances entirely is ridiculous

To dismiss them entirely, yes. BUT a good manager with limited finances will still set a team up right. A poor manager with unlimited finances will still set a team up poorly

 

 

I'm not disputing that. It was a response to someone saying they were sick of hearing about them which to me meant that he didn't think they were relevant, which they are.

 

They are, but they're not hugely relevant. Lambert has probably gotten more out of his limited funds than most other managers would get with twice as much, in terms of player signing quality. However, Lambert has also gotten less out of those players than most other managers would, in terms of on the pitch performance

 

 

They are massively relevant.  We're probably spending (someone can check) in and around the 3rd or 4th lowest amounts in the Premier League per season and yet there's an expectation that we should be around, say, 10th in the league.  If you want to improve quality, you need to spend well.

 

There's undoubtedly a mix of Lambert finding decent players within his working budget coupled with Lambert not being able to get the best out of his squad, but to say the funding is "not hugely relevant" is just plain wrong.

 

If you have a squad in decline, you need to invest in it - irrespective of manager.  It's that **** simple.

 

See, this is the myth alot of people like to use. I don't see anyone saying we should be 10th or higher in the league, all they ask for is a bit of spirit, fight and maybe attack a game for a change. Look at the difference in the crowd when Gil came on and we really started to put pressure on Liverpool. I was alot more accepting of that defeat because of that 2nd half performance.

 

 

 

 

Premier League>>>>>>Championship.

Championship is a very tough league.

 

 

Didn't say it wasn't. I'm saying that teams can compete in the Championship without having to spend much money which isn't really so in the Premier League. People might not like that the budget restrictions are used as a reason why the club is struggling but to pretend that it isn't partially to blame is ludicrous. 

 

Noone is saying it's not partially to blame, i think we all want to see the back of Lerner and see a big cash injection, but Lambert should be doing alot better after 3 years in the job. Pulis set his team up well at Everton the other night, we got absolutely battered there.

 

 

Ah, So if they are partially to blame then why are you sick of hearing about them? It's not like it isn't a valid thing to discuss. If people want to discuss our manager from all angles then it needs to be brought up.

 

Just seems like its an easy excuse when we get beat or draw with teams we should be beating. Was the 'budget' to blame for a gutless defeat against Leicester?

 

 

Premier League>>>>>>Championship.

Championship is a very tough league.

 

 

Didn't say it wasn't. I'm saying that teams can compete in the Championship without having to spend much money which isn't really so in the Premier League. People might not like that the budget restrictions are used as a reason why the club is struggling but to pretend that it isn't partially to blame is ludicrous. 

 

Noone is saying it's not partially to blame, i think we all want to see the back of Lerner and see a big cash injection, but Lambert should be doing alot better after 3 years in the job. Pulis set his team up well at Everton the other night, we got absolutely battered there.

Premier League>>>>>>Championship.

Championship is a very tough league. We should know, we usualy get beat by them in the cups

Sick of hearing about restrictions and budgets.

Mick McCarthy has spent £10000 this season and look what he is doing with Ipswich. Gary Rowett has hardly spent anything and reviving the Blues.

 

Here we go again, because people are noticing the failings of Lambert, it has to be a 'Personal Grudge' or a 'Personal Vendetta'. If Isa wants to repeatedly share his feelings on the club, so be it, it's a forum, didnt realise you were a mod.

It's not just Mat Kendrick saying how he feels either, so this 'Personal' tirade is just rubbish : http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brian-reade-column-aston-villa-4979624

To be fair, he was referring only to Kendrick with the 'personal grudge' bit in that post. But yeah, God forbid that independent journalists might not act simply as extentions of the club's PR machine and actually air their own opinions on the state of the club.

 

I was referring to some posters in general mate claiming 'personal' issues.

Don't worry, when we are in League One, people will still be saying 'I will judge him after the next few games, i really think he will be an important manager in this clubs history'

 

It needs to keep being repeated whilst Lambert embarrassingly remains in employment at this club - it's as simple as that really.

No, it does not. And certainly not multiple times in one week from the same person who is evidently bearing a grudge. How does it help the club/team? It is becoming very similar to the vitriolic abuse Steve Kean received by Blackburn supporters, targeting and accusing one man for all of the club's woes. It is simply vile, and only helps to create a poisonous atmosphere.  .

 

Here we go again, because people are noticing the failings of Lambert, it has to be a 'Personal Grudge' or a 'Personal Vendetta'. If Isa wants to repeatedly share his feelings on the club, so be it, it's a forum, didnt realise you were a mod.

It's not just Mat Kendrick saying how he feels either, so this 'Personal' tirade is just rubbish :  http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brian-reade-column-aston-villa-4979624

That article is an utter disgrace as for me it smacks of someone using their position in a personal vendetta not unbiased reporting 

Why is everything on here a 'Personal Vedetta' or a 'Personal Swipe' when people have differing views? The same 3 or 4 posters  do this, but it's ok when they reply with 'your post is ludricous' and 'it's a shame for you'.

 

 

 

 

 

Suprised no-one has picked up on Lamberts comments in the Mail today : " Expectations outweigh realism at the club"

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-reaction-paul-lambert-8430601

So sorry for expecting more than 11 goals from the last 21 games, and 12 points from the last 51.

It seems obvious to me that he is saying we expect to be comfortably mid table cus of our history and after the few years we had under Mon but the reality is that we spend like a championship team so realistically it's an achievement to be still in the league. We just need super timmy sherwood on board and everything will be fine ye?

I would seriously take anyone now, just to freshen things up. Steve Claridge came up with the perfect answer the other night when asked about the turnaround in Blues fortunes.

He said it's simply a manager that has come in, got them enjoying playing football and actually playing the players in their preferred positions'. Not really rocket science. Lambert continually plays Weimann and Gabby out of position along with others. I dont recall any fans saying we should be comfortably midtable, but we do expect improvement from one season to the next and a team thats show fight. So Lambert is meeting your expectations then of lowest scorers, lack of points etc..?

He played zogbia plenty aswell as gabby and Weimann. Fact is they are shit but he was stuck with them as he had to sort the defence first. If we sign Gil and another quality attacker then it could transform the team. I'm more than happy to give it more time as it's only now after 2 and a half seasons that Lambert is starting to get his own team on the pitch. Remember he said it wud take 2 or 3 seasons to get things right here? It's almost as if he knows more about what the state of the club is than some of our vt experts but yeah let's just get anyone in, that's bound to work out.

So Lambert is meeting your expectations then of lowest scorers, lack of points etc..?

I don't have much expectation while we are owned by Lerner. I'm of the opinion that it is an achievement to be staying in the league these past few years so in that regard yes Lambert is meeting my expectations. I think alot of Villa fans need to wake up and realise what Lerner is doing to the club. Lambert is the fall guy and has been ever since he took over.

Oh and no I'm not happy bout the amount of goals scored but I am happy about having the 5th best defence in the league and I'm happy to see Lambert trying to build on a good defence by trying to play football the right way. The system is fine, it's the players deployed that are costing us. Gil and a n other will hopefully make a major difference.

 

Fair play mate. I like a good debate. Im hoping a couple of new signings might change things too. Only thing i dont agree on though is Lambert continually says in interviews he knows the constraints at the club and did when he took over, so its not as though he didnt know what he was letting himself in for. I would love too see what Lambert could do with £50 - £60 million in a season as the higher ranged players he has done well with ie :  Benteke, Sanchez etc.. 

 

 

 

Suprised no-one has picked up on Lamberts comments in the Mail today : " Expectations outweigh realism at the club"

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-reaction-paul-lambert-8430601

So sorry for expecting more than 11 goals from the last 21 games, and 12 points from the last 51.

It seems obvious to me that he is saying we expect to be comfortably mid table cus of our history and after the few years we had under Mon but the reality is that we spend like a championship team so realistically it's an achievement to be still in the league. We just need super timmy sherwood on board and everything will be fine ye?

I would seriously take anyone now, just to freshen things up. Steve Claridge came up with the perfect answer the other night when asked about the turnaround in Blues fortunes.

He said it's simply a manager that has come in, got them enjoying playing football and actually playing the players in their preferred positions'. Not really rocket science. Lambert continually plays Weimann and Gabby out of position along with others. I dont recall any fans saying we should be comfortably midtable, but we do expect improvement from one season to the next and a team thats show fight. So Lambert is meeting your expectations then of lowest scorers, lack of points etc..?

He played zogbia plenty aswell as gabby and Weimann. Fact is they are shit but he was stuck with them as he had to sort the defence first. If we sign Gil and another quality attacker then it could transform the team. I'm more than happy to give it more time as it's only now after 2 and a half seasons that Lambert is starting to get his own team on the pitch. Remember he said it wud take 2 or 3 seasons to get things right here? It's almost as if he knows more about what the state of the club is than some of our vt experts but yeah let's just get anyone in, that's bound to work out.

 

So Lambert is meeting your expectations then of lowest scorers, lack of points etc..?

 

Suprised no-one has picked up on Lamberts comments in the Mail today : " Expectations outweigh realism at the club"

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-reaction-paul-lambert-8430601

So sorry for expecting more than 11 goals from the last 21 games, and 12 points from the last 51.

It seems obvious to me that he is saying we expect to be comfortably mid table cus of our history and after the few years we had under Mon but the reality is that we spend like a championship team so realistically it's an achievement to be still in the league. We just need super timmy sherwood on board and everything will be fine ye?

 

I would seriously take anyone now, just to freshen things up. Steve Claridge came up with the perfect answer the other night when asked about the turnaround in Blues fortunes.

He said it's simply a manager that has come in, got them enjoying playing football and actually playing the players in their preferred positions'. Not really rocket science. Lambert continually plays Weimann and Gabby out of position along with others. I dont recall any fans saying we should be comfortably midtable, but we do expect improvement from one season to the next and a team that shows fight and spirit. So Lambert is meeting your expectations then of lowest scorers, lack of points etc..?

Suprised no-one has picked up on Lamberts comments in the Mail today :  " Expectations outweigh realism at the club"

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-reaction-paul-lambert-8430601

So sorry for expecting more than 11 goals from the last 21 games, and 12 points from the last 51.

So here we are, some were ready to judge Lambert after the run of 'winnable' games. He simply has to go. Has anyone ever seen him on the touchline giving any player a rollocking? He just sat there today, looked defeated. Really wanted him to succeed but the time has come im afraid.

Okay, all these posters who want Lambert sacked straight away are very vocal that the ones who want him to be given more time are in the very low minority (excuse merchants i believe one poster referred to us by).

I ask you this, if there are 99% of the fan base wanting him out so badly then we are there no mass protests at games such as there was with Pardew at Newcastle. I put it to you, that you are actually in the minority and most fans realise these excuses put forward are in fact reality at Villa and not even Mourinho could do much better than tread water here given the constraints.

1.  Ok, here is the Mourinho post.

2. Will find the Ferguson one tommorow, off to bed.

Thankyou and Goodnight.

Same old faces that were slagging Senderos and Cissokho before they had kicked a ball for the Villa. Turned out to be good signings.

Welcome Tom.