nick76

 

 

A decent CEO will make little difference. What impact could they possibly have when such limitations are in place?

One word money they control how much we make

And how are they meant to increase the money we make with a team that finishes low in the league with decreasing attendences? Like I said, a good CEO will make little difference to the success of this club while we have an owner who wants out and sets such ridiculous limitiations

 

A good CEO can make a massive difference to the success of this club.....the difference between relegated and not being relegated, the difference of a few places in the league, the difference of acquiring a certain player or not.  Through increase of revenue, branding, reputation, negotiating skills, strategy of the business on limited funds, these are the things that a CEO can affect, which while won't bring you the league title can make us significantly better than we are.  It could be the difference between relegation fighting season after season to lower midtable, which isnt the level we want to be at but it better than what we are.  Getting Vlaar to stay could be the difference between staying or leaving could be the difference between us being relegated or not, a CEO along with the Manager would be talking to the player.  Branding in other markets may get us a reputation and thus players from there may be keener to join us...........etc etc.  No point underestimating the influence a CEO has on a club like ours.....

What the hell have all the CEO's at the club done for the past 8 years? Makes no difference who is employed.

Dunno an enterprising CEO could make the world of difference - what we need is someone who can grow the club, land big sponsorship deals, recruit good managers. What we have had over the past few years is what i call "bean counters" - they work within the current financial constraints and have no vision how to make the club grow.

would love Graham Taylor as CEO

you have to be kidding? Just as we need a football man on the board we also need a proper CEO who has the vision in business to grow. Graham Taylor could do that on the football side but not the business side. Get graham Taylor and a CEO in and I'll be happy, no way just Graham Taylor as CEO, that would be foolish

The club has clearly been prepped for a sale over the last x seasons, but even so, Lambert will still have spent ~50M net (assuming the 10M rumours are true).

You'll hear his biggest fans crying that he's had no money, or not enough has been spent on wages, but then we'll get beaten in the cups by League One teams and we'll finish lower in the league than newly promoted clubs.

The question is whether the owner has provided enough funds us to beat Sheffield United in the cups, and finish above teams like Palace and Hull in the league, or whether the manager is just the worse since Billy McNeil.

I guess the truth is somewhere inbetween. Randy hasn't spent enough to compete amongst the top ten, but Lambert hasn't used the money provided well enough which means he can't compete over the course of a season with managers like Pullis and Bruce.

I'm no lambert fan, I think his tactics are poor but in your comparison I wonder how much Bruce and Pullis have spent in equivalent number of premiership management seasons

The list is fairly depressing. Even though it means nothing as well, looking at the first XI which should have key players looks below premiership standard.

Praying for 17th, anything above would be a bonus. Problems with tactics, problems with injuries and problems with confidence

Not sure what a feel good signing would be in our budget range....even if we spent 5m on a player

In a world where any bit of hype is welcome to sell season tickets....I would muster a guess that nothing is happening.

I think we'll hear some major hype through unofficial sources close to the club within two weeks to boost season ticket sales only for it to be denied after the season starts. Not that I'm cynical

Christ, dry your eyes Nick.

It's just bizarre statement. What did he say that was worth saying? When what he did say is just going to frustrate fans, surely better to say nothing than what he said?

Not sure what the point of that statement was unless he's being harassed a lot. If anything it makes fans more depressed so not much of a PR.

He makes a statement, we automatically thinks he's sold but sadly no. Worse, it hasn't happened yet and now a club he hasn't been interested in that he's now going to focus on until he's sold. Not only that, it's a response to a promise to Lambert....never mind the promise to us about the guardianship of our club, nah just his promise to Lambert. Oh and by the way, stop bothering him as he's not making any more statements until we are sold.

I think the mirror story is just guess work and probably written to cause a reaction because no information is coming out of the club. I suspect Lerner knows the club will be sold in the next 4-6 weeks and why would you sanction purchases if the new owners don't want them.

At the same time if the club is unlikely to be sold while he won't be splashing the cash he wouldn't be so stupid as reflected in the article, never mind how much he has lost interest in the villa. It is still a better sale asset in the premiership than if we were relegated obviously.

So logically to me I have to believe we will be sold by mid August. We have no information, the media has no information which frustrates all but that doesn't mean something isn't happening.

Yeah I agree it's Lerner who has got bored not a Russian or Middle-Eastern owner.  Obviously I want an owner that lavishes riches on us but will be content with an Owner that keeps us consistently in the top 8, fighting for European places and once in a while a glimpse at Champions League place (generally falling away at the last minute  ) and a manager that plays good attractive football and makes Villa Park a fortress and we become a team that is respected again is what I want

After having time to think about it and get over the initial disappointment of truly understanding the position Villa are in with our second signing being free and signing him 10 years further on than when we would've liked, I'm going to think positively with absolute no foundation. I need to think on the brighter side as Villa at the moment is taking us to a low at the moment.

So on a positive side hopefully he will be our new Merson or Carbone, that he does still have some ability to play at this level, that he's fortunate with injuries going forwards, he fits well with our team and that he didn't play well or often at West Ham because of Sam's tactics......welcome Joe, your skills are what we need.

Hope he turns out to be a Robbie Keane type signing as I was disappointed with that signing and he turned out great. So I'm crossing my fingers as he's the type of player style wise we desperately need.

Who else is a free transfer in the market with relatively low wages that we might punt for?

When I read this I was emotionally not moved at all, so neither bad or good.  I'm not sure whether that is because of the apathy I am currently experiencing with the Villa or that I'm assuming the Villa will be taken over in due course or that this move will neither make us or break us as I suppose it depends on what else happens and then I can make an assessment over the bigger picture rather than just this one component.  Even if this had been an inspired appointment it still doesnt deflect away from the fact this club needs a roots to branch overhaul for anything to change.....so this drop in the ocean, whether good or bad seems to have had no emotional impact on me.  I'm really scared though as it should have an impact on me, I should be happy or sad about this potential appointment.....I'm just not. 

ahhh it's ok, it's growing on me.....have pre-ordered a couple for my nephews as I know they love new kits....plus it pisses off my sister-in-laws family who are trying to make them bluenoses but it's funny when my 4 year old nephew just keeps screaming "Villa".  Part of me feels bad in bringing them into the Villa family at a time when we are so troubled but I'm hoping that the future can only get better and my nephews wont know of these times....and at least we aren't the blue half of the city.

A few notes of caution on this latest ITK offering from Admin, if any are still needed.

 

The owner of the Clippers franchise is Donald Sterling but he is rather busy at the moment. He recent made a rather racist comment which he really shouldn't have done and as a result is about to lose the franchise he has owned for 33 years.

 

He has until next Tuesday to sell the franchise or face the prospect of having it taken off him by the NBA.

 

With this in mind, I would have thought he has quite enough on his plate at the moment without trying to negotiate the purchase of a football club across the Atlantic. Wouldn't you?

 

I also think, given our press and their reputation, buying a PL club is the last thing someone who has just had a US team taken away from them due to racism would do.

 

So based on Admin's track record and the above which is very much a matter of public information I think this latest ITK snippet is, well, erm, not to be rude, probably best dismissed. That isn't based on ITK from me, just an assumption based on circumstance.

yeah there is no way Sterling would be investing in us, the problems he's got himself into with what he's said and the reaction means he's going to be a very busy man both being kicked out as an owner and then knowing him his retribution through the courts and by media. Also not sure he'd be very welcome with his views into this country and football, I'm sure there would be uproar from supporters and concern from governing bodies who are trying to kick racism out of football.

Lambert hasn't been a disaster, we're still in the Premier League, he did that two years running on a small budget. The transfer funds issue is not the most constraining issue he had to deal with, it was wage restraints which stopped us getting better players in on loan. Everton got Barry, we got Holt. Large wage differences between those two I imagine. 

 

However, Lambert's tactics have been one-dimensional, too easy to work out, his man-management has been questionable (although we don't know who was actually making the decisions re: The Bomb Squad), his choice of Culverhouse & Karva turned out to be very flawed indeed and he collected less points this season than last with what, on paper, looks like a better squad. 

 

So I'll put a question out there. Do you think the same squad would have done better, with less fuss, if we'd had Tony Pullis in charge, for instance? 

IMO the answer is yes.

my answer is No and I'm not a Lambert fan. The squad is very poor with key players injured, despite poor tactics and all the other issues at the club, avoiding relegation with this squad of players who were available was a minor success. While there might be unique managers that may have got us to mid table or above, the average premiership manager, which I include Pulis, would've probably attained roughly the same position with this poor squad.

Great game yesterday, poor most of the season, not fussed what happens to him in close season, stays then fine or goes I'm still fine.....

Thank god this season is over now! Hopefully the summer will renew my faith.....

Not counting my chickens until the game is over after what they did to Fulham last well, but first 45 mins it's so far so good! C'mon you villa boys, another 45 mins like that.......

Defence shocking, beyond shocking. Some nice possession first half for 10-15 minutes but end product was awful aside from the goal. Weimann is awful this season, Gabby needs a strong partner otherwise he looks barely average and doesn't score enough goals. Delph had a below average game, Westy looked ok some of the time.

Lambert, I've always been a fan but seeing him today he's given in, he looks destroyed and the last six games that's reflected in the results. We haven't been good this season so I understand fans on his back but I always thought something was there that he would make us good. Seeing him today, we are too far gone and he's looks so lost so best we part ways......

Think it could be a good idea and not a pipe dream. Could see people who care about the club involved and enable us to have questions answered. Everyone would be looking out for the good of the club. Think its as much a realistic idea as getting a new owner is. If the club is valued at around 200 million as well it would allow randy to recoup 100 million. Think I remember reading that a club in the championship or league one is doing it as well. Works well in the German league, we could be the first to jump on board that ship instead of waiting for others to do it and saying its too late and we missed out on improving first. 

So 100m, at 5k a person that's 20,000 individuals.  Do we have 20,000 Villa fans that have a spare 5k to use.  You could argue that that some people could invest more than others and then they'll want more influence than others.  We only have a few hundred regular contributors to this site and we don't agree on anything so 20,000 people having voices...........hmmm 

Can't believe we are at home playing bottom of the table team.....this is unbelievable

Yeah but again I think consistency is about quality.  I know when I play at my low standard of football that when I play with people of the same ability or better than me, sometimes I have barnstormer of a match when everything goes right and sometimes I have a stinker but when I play with people that aren't as good as me I play consistently really well all the time.  I had this situation several years back when in the week I played with better guys and on Sunday morning I played with guys who weren't as good.  I was a goal scoring sensation on Sunday's but in the week my form changed quite a bit.  My point is that our players are on the whole average quality and seem to suffer the high and lows against varying quality of team in the premiership.  Although I dont understand why we are so bad against lower teams.