Clarry

Second on the we have seen it before and will see it again bit, yes just like we have seen before ( and no doubt will again ) the Labour economic shambles in this country that once again the Conservative Party has to come in and do something about. Ask yourself why we see these cuts from the Tories after each Lab govt.

I've said elsewhere, the State is like a parent. Labour are an over-indulgent parent spoiling the child. Conservatives are an abusive, nasty parent.

Just because there's more money coming into a household, doesn't mean that household is any better off than the single earner.

Three beans, plus one bean equals?

Some beans.

There was a man unconscious on the oavement outside of Streatham High Road police station a few years back. I went into the station and told them and they told me to go to the phone box and report it....

And absolutely NOTHING to do with the Roman Catholic Church. What happens to be the sign of Christianity for some? The fish – the “Ichthys”

Showing that from early times "Fish" had a direct link with worship. Early Christians were supposed to have used this as a secret sign between themselves to avoid identification by their Roman captors and torturers. Therefore it doesn't take much imagination to see that once the connection was made, OTHER fish symbolism was adopted by the so called established Churches later on, which derived their origins NOT from Christianity but from more pagan beleifs that were ingrained already and easily adopted.

Anyhow I've tried to make the point and I'm not arguing over this.

The fish symbol comes from a play on words I (Jesus) C (Christos) etc...and he was know as the fisherman.

Whether the use of fish comes directly from earlier usage, cannot be proven or disproven, unless someone left a manual. It's like relating the pyramids of Egypt to those in Mexico. Makes nice stories, but they are in fact very simple structure/shapes (but a bugger to build).

In archaeology we used to look at all religions as cults. e.g. the cult of Mithras, the cult of Christianity, the cult of Judaism.

cult   

–noun

1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.

3. the object of such devotion.

4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.

5. Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.

7. the members of such a religion or sect

There's a fair few* dissenters that are from Ireland, and Houllier is French. I see....

*does two = a few?

Poland is pretty much "half-price". So beer about £1 - £1.50 and decent grub for about £5.

Try Wroclaw (pronounced Vrrokswav).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wroc%C5%82aw

http://www.wroclawcitybreaks.com/index.htm

you've been sucked by the reform acquisitions ltd propaganda machine.

Its a terrible appointment. It's like bringing Peter Withe out of retirement to play up front.

He's too old. too out of touch, and the fire in his belly has long since gone.

I'll be proved right. Houllier will be gone in the summer.

Pull your foreskin over your head piss and drown yourself.

Anyway, since this isn't an argument the thread

Yes it is

...is this the 5 minute argument or the 10?

Sorry, this is "being hit on the head" lessons

Piss off, no it isn't...

56 pages to go

It's like a Sixth Form common room in the 70s.

Bond was half Scottish/half Swiss.

The wiki atricle stirred the memory of years ago the James Bond newspaper strip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond

At this point, I'd like to thank TheTrees for, yet again, using his knowledge to keep us all ahead of the game.

I'll take some of his credit off him, though, cos I was the first to do the "Gerard Houllier Corsica" google search

here here

well done thetrees and gazton 'magnum pi'

If I was Randy I'd make it worthwhile for thetrees not saying anything in the future!

Mmmmmmm, Houllier with Hamann and McAllister sounds like a nice set-up to me. I'm not sure about their coaching ability or if they have any experience, but if they can transmit some of their ability to Ireland, Petrov and NRC, that'll do for me.

Yep, I like that. How many coaches does a first team usually have? 1 manager, 1 assistant manager, 1 coach and 1 goalkeeper coach?

Liverpool had Roy Evans with the ladder to get the ball back.

His heart problem was nothing to do with stress. It wasn't a heart attack at all, but a tear in the aorta which was fixed.

And you don't have to spend the rest of your life with no stress after a "normal" heart attack anyway (unless you have a diseased heart or go back to clogging up your freshly scraped arteries). Why would part of the recovery of a lot of heart surgery be on an exercise bike/rowing machine raising blood pressure if this was the case.

Looks wise, Fleming said Bond looked like the singer Hoagy Carmichael. Google image it, I can't be botherd with it!

Connery is best for me then Moore. Moore did the tongue in cheek thing really well and I found it clever that his autobiography was called "My word is my Bond" even if it wasn't his idea.

Reading that book at the moment. Very entertaining.

1)yes I'm very nice chap. very passionate.

we are talking about 3rd world country's national teams.... not clubs.

their FA's don't have a pot to piss in. blow them out of the water with some of that milner money old clam fist lerner is creaming the interest off.

5) you make them interested, get the private jet fuelled up bring him to brum take him round the pretentious bars and the leafy bits, in the limo show him a the official history dvd and then the pitch invasion after the blackburn game. whilst he's enjoying a tin of banks's.

then he'll know who he's dealing with.

What happened to 2, 3 and 4 or are you an innumerate thicko?

Sorry, that wasn't too nice. Just being passionate.

All we need is 1 or 2 more players given a decent budget and we're back there and that's obviously where the manager comes into play (amongst other things ofcourse).

Absolutely. Maybe 3 players, though!

I'm a few episodes into Mad Men season 4 and it is still excellent.

If he can get us winning games and take us up the higher parts of the league, maybe sign some new players, I wouldn't care if his first name was Mary.

We do not want Shearer.

Anyone who calls football "soccer" shouldn't work managing a team in this country.

'Soccer' is just as legitimate a term for association football as 'football' is. It originates from an abbreviation of association, 'assoc', which mutated into 'socca' and later to 'soccer'. All of this happened many, many moons ago. The idea that the word 'soccer' is some abhorrent American bastardisation is a phallacy.

Many English speaking countries, such as Australia, Ireland and the USA, have more than one type of 'football'. (Aussie Rules, Gaelic Football, Gridiron.) The word 'football' in these countries has always been used to describe the native sport. Therefore, the use of the word 'soccer' is necessary in order to differentiate between the different codes.

Just because the use of a certain word is the norm in England doesn't mean that that it should be the norm for all English speaking countries.

(P.S. I really don't want Bob Bradley to be our next manager, but for reasons more meaningful than his vocabulary.)

Used to be the norm in the 70s in the UK.

Understand what you're saying. Only heard the "headlines". Looked into it and saw the stuff about credit agencies being involved. Hmmmm.

It still doesn't take away from the fact that it is aimed at the bottom and not at the top (as society is so often percieved).

I'm not too bothered about a crackdown on benefit fraud. Fraud is fraud. Crime is crime. But when are they going to announce a crackdown on tax fraud and the millions that illegaly change hands in banking/hedge funds because of slack regulation? Probably never, because once more it's easier to get the "little" man.

I suspect the pay by result method they propose will see thousands of **** ups, along the lines of parking tickets and clamping etc.

I could never shave my pubic 'fro. It's where I keep my Door of Kukundu.

Then you are indeed a wise man.

The current government using the tools the previous incumbents so generously left them in the shed

Absolutely. It always amused and bemused me the number of people bemoaning (rightfully) Labour's infringement on freedoms, but them thinking that the Conservatives would be some sort of Martin Luther King/Nelson Mandela "free at last" party. It's the Keystone Cops handing their truncheons over to the Gestapo.

I'm all for community and voluntary work, and millions in this country do it already.

However, I fear "Big Society" will go like this; taking the Parks division of a Council as an example. Cuts are made, jobs are lost. Voluntary Parks support is created. The unemployed are co-erced into "volunteering" to keep the parks tidy/safe etc. And don't forget voluntary contributions to upkeep the park you have already paid for.

It'll probably be in areas that will not affect MPs and their families of any political hue, so that's alright.