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3 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

on what basis dont you like it though?

me personally i don't care, i don't know why they chose to do it beyond trying to tie it in to the aesthetic of the detailing on the sleeve

Detailing on the sleeve is fine.

Just don't like the fact that the St Georges flag has been changed on a whim by Nike and the FA have accepted it.

Just now, StefanAVFC said:

is this?

 

No, definitely not.

But we have been told that it is - as it has had a playful update

13 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Probably the fact that he has eyes and more than one brain cell 

So is this a cross of St. George?

Just now, Stevo985 said:

Sooooo you dodged the question, why weren’t you outraged the last time there was a St George’s cross that wasn’t red on the shirt?

Just to clarify, I'm not outraged,  I don't like it.

Personal preference

Just now, StefanAVFC said:

If the design on the Goalie kit above isn't a St.George's cross, what is it?

Not every cross is a St. Georges cross, what makes you think the one on Joe Harts shirt is a St Georges flag and not just part of an intricate design

Just now, Stevo985 said:

I don’t see why that makes a difference except for a convenient excuse for you. But anyway, see the post above. The ones on one of the other shirts posted are standalone. But they’re not red. Why are they ok but this one isn’t?

edit: this one

 

I do not need a convenient excuse, I personally don't like what has been done, if you do fine and more power to you.

Just now, 479Villan said:

I don't even know what you're arguing anymore. So it's not a flag, if it's not a red St. George's cross on a white background? By that standard, Nike has done nothing wrong.

 

But I'm sure Mr. Hart here is simply wearing a shirt that advocates teaching maths in schools, with all those different colored plusses. It's certainly not a re-use of a national symbol.

Nike has produced a US kit (I own it) where the flag is in red white and blue, but it's printed on the inside of the neck so it gets soaked with sweat. Is that showing respect for the flag? Has anyone asked the flag its thoughts on its usage?
 

I'm not arguing, merely putting across my point of view.

And it must be a flag as Nike themselves have said they have given the flag a playful update

Just now, Stevo985 said:

Yes they do

Please point out the stand alone St Georges flag below (remember you are looking for a red cross on a white background)

Just now, Stevo985 said:

Were you similarly outraged at all the other times the flag has been changed on football shirts?

I'm not outraged at all, I'm just pointing out that if a country's flag is going to be included on a country's shirt then it should be the country's colours not something that Nike and the FA think looks good.

The photo examples that have already been uploaded do not just show a stand alone St. Georges cross,  it is included as part of the shirt design, as I said shirt designs change with fashions and trends.

For all I care the England shirt can be a full on rainbow, black with purple spots, hoops, stripes, etc. anything really because its a shirt that changes with fashion and trends. We even had a grey one once because it "looked good with jeans".

But changing the country's flag colours is another thing, that is our national symbol, identity whatever you want to call it.

Lets see how Saudi, Qatar, America would react if there flags were given a 'playful upgrade'

Because one of my uncles didn't go on strike and my other uncles did, they never spoke to each other during or after the strike. Unfortunately not speaking to each other continued until they were dead.

That's how the strike had long term effects on friends, families, and communities as a whole.

4 minutes ago, imavillan said:

A great picture of social history and the old Trinity.

back in the day when you had to queue for hours and hours for tickets.

Season ticket holders, programme stubs.

Some of our fans will have no idea about this 

edit: i remember queuing many a time for long hours.

 

 

I'm probably in that queue somewhere.

Started queuing by the Holte End thinking that I'd never make it to the ticket office before they had sold out. Luckily I did and enjoyed a great day at Wembley.

We are all just six degrees of separation away from everyone on this forum

41 minutes ago, AshVilla said:

I can see him going to Spurs in the summer.

That's sooooooo 2018.

Don't see kids with catapults and pea shooters any more.

I'm sure when John Terry was Villa captain and won the toss he always chose to attack the Holte End first half.

Mason Mount

I remember someone, or quite a few actually, mentioning Butty Bach ale.

Well I sampled my first one the other week.........and can confirm it is indeed a fine drop.

Just now, Straggler said:

Perfect thank you!

Just now, Straggler said:

Does anyone know how many passes we strung together for that 2nd goal? Even the extended highlights don't have the whole passage of play and i could swear it must be 30 passes or more....

With all the time added on at the end of each half now, Forest actually scored their first goal after 50 minutes (45+5 additional) and their second goal after 47 minutes!

But forget them this is about Villa, great result Saturday.

Nice to see so many playing really well, so hard to pick MOM but for me I thought Lenglet looked really composed all through the game considering he had to play RCB then LCB. McGinn was brilliant, Tielemans I though played really well, Watkins and Bailey were their usual selves. Thought Digne steadied us as well when he came on. Ramsey looking back to normal.

On 17/02/2024 at 12:01, Brumstopdogs said:

 

Remember watching that game on a big screen in the Aston Villa Leisure Centre

14 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Extra trains around full time would be nice. Miss the 22:10 from Witton to Walsall tonight it’s an hour wait for the next one. 

You can get the 22:40

I'm hoping there is no extra time and penalties tonight otherwise it will be after midnight before I get home.

As some have alluded to, the only thing you have diminishing is time.

My old man (HEITS) had a paper cutting with a verse on in his wallet for years which I remember to this day:

He gave his health in search of wealth
to gold became a slave
He gave his wealth in search of health
and only found a grave