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    Barry Bannan

    in Hall of Fame

    Posted · Edited by Kwan

    Con sorry, I can't do it anymore. I love me some stats, but football stats as a whole are archaic and incomplete and any argument put forth as such requires context and a healthy dose of "These are probably not a good indicator of a player."

    Two things:

    1) Sample Size

    Simply taking the stats of this season and saying that Bannan created x chances in so many minutes at x chances per minute without taking into account the minuscule sample size is simply not taking into account the enormity of the game. Consider that a whole season of games is 3600 minutes give or take with stoppage time, we've only gone through half of that. Consider that even a full season of stats isn't even enough to judge a player and you have an incomplete picture with numbers attached to the side. They're helpful but not indicative of a player's performance otherwise Albrighton should obviously start all our games!

    2) Simplicity

    He has an X% passing accuracy and creates X/chances per minute are equivalent of saying that a baseball pitcher has this ERA and this many wins so he's obviously a good player.

    It's not true.

    There's so many other things to take into consideration besides the raw numbers. A complete vector diagram of his passes. His movement and ground covered. His positions when receiving the ball. The resulting positions when a pass is delivered. The regression rate of his "key passes." God, there's just so many things to take into consideration besides "% possession and complete" and "key passes created." They are helpful but shouldn't be used as a comprehensive indicator of a player's worth.

    I will agree with you that Bannan has created a good number of chances but exactly how helpful he is to the team as a whole is debatable at best and I certainly don't see him being linked to ManU and Arsenal anytime soon.

    Ron Vlaar

    in Other Football

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    Desperately need him back. If nothing else, he can order the kids around so they're not wandering all over the place.

    A part of the problem with the back has been a complete lack of organization and communication. No one seems to know who's picking up who, players are unmarked running down channels, not to mention people catching our line real high.

    Hopefully Vlaar can help with those things.

    Barry Bannan

    in Hall of Fame

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    Was a big fan of his, but it's just not there for me anymore. Whereas he used to play incisive passes (and not just Hollywood balls), it's either ticky tacky sideways or pinning someone on the wing. It makes for good numbers and possession stats but kills our game. Defends well in that he doesn't let his man by him usually but can't put in a tackle and he's just too static positionally. Before, he used to want the ball but now he seems to be dreading it when it comes his way.

    Thought he had some good moments in the second half where he actually got forward and would do well in a 3 man midfield in that attacking role, but just can't be part of a central 2 pairing.

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