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Skruff

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  1. Difficult for uneducated people to understand how you can hate in many fasit rather than as a whole. I hate him as a footballer but i truelly love him as a man cos he is really hard working and determined and a real tryer

    Splendid, just splendid!

    :lol:

  2. McLeish is the WORST manager we have had since the birth of the Premiership.

    It's perhaps a bit early to pronounce on his managerial after only 11 league games but I reckon I can provide 2 names who were worse than him: Graham Taylor MkII and Gerard Houllier. In addition, time alone will tell if O'Leary was better or worse than McLeish.

    it may be early but lets look at his win % in context from a article late into last season (maybe 2 or 3 games before the end of the season i think!)

    http://twitpic.com/55e1tk

    hes won 4 in 13. So thats 30.8%

    So in Comparison he's only "bettered" by Billy McNeill and is by no doubt the worse Prem manager we've had.

    :twisted:

    (p.s. just worked out Hollier reign had 14 wins in 39 so 35% making him the 3rd worse)

    Ha ha, I must have missed the moment when we started judging the success of managers by their win percentage but, even if I accept that method, your stats are distinctly dodgy.

    First, Houllier didn't manage us for 39 games. He only managed 34 before his ticker gave out and he won 12 drew 9 lost 13 - NB only 8 of those wins were league games.

    Also, if you judge a manager to be the "worst we've had" on his first 13 games, your stats need to compare the first 13 games of all the managers you are judging him by. Otherwise the claim is misleading if not meaningless. :)

    And, spookily...

    Houllier's first 13 games rendered him 4 wins (but only thanks to 2 cup wins). :lol:

    Ok. if we count that then he got 35% whoop de doo..

    Im saying we can only judge but what theyve done... and hes done jack

    we should judge by wins as they are what count in football....

    Can't smell defeat when it's shitting down your throath? :birthday:

  3. On the face of it 8th is decent bordering on good. However, when you look at the games we have had and how we have played then you start to worry. I think we will get a truer picture of Big Eck's capabilities come the new year when we have played the big boys.

    It is a fair comment Omariqy and one thats used on here regular.

    However, theres a few ways of looking at that. Heres my view.

    We have had a nice run of fixtures and we are comfortably (which is the important word for me) 8th. We have had some tough fixtures in that also - City (a), Sunderland, Everton, Fulham (a) and two derby's are NOT easy games. We are also atm, playing (90% of the time) - abysmally with many players yet to hit any form.

    So, for the argument that tougher games lie ahead - Id agree, but I am by no means thinking points arent there to be won, for the following reasons:

    - Football isn't won on paper

    - We havent started playing well yet and were still picking up points

    - All of the top teams bar City look very beatable or certainly more beatable than previous seasons. The team I actually fear most after City is Spurs. Look a very very good team..

    - We have taken points off big teams time and time again when we think we won't.

    - All teams seem to be taken points off each other.

    I think your right, I think we will learn a lot about Mcliesh come New Year. I think we will know whether he is a steady Eddy comfortable top ten manager for us or the man who can actually take us forward.

    We will lose games against the best sides no doubt. We always do - But, that doesnt relegate you though. Losing games against poor teams is what relegates you - so far thats not happening by any means.

    People used Stoke as an example of a team in a better position than us because theyve played stronger teams so far - Yeah theyve just been battered by Bolton.

    Lets just take each game as it comes.

    Thank you, great post!

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