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My friend is Iranian so was quietly supporting them. Chuffed

11 hours ago, mjmooney said:

Gulp. 

Oi, thought you were done with football :)

10 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

It's a weird metric to use, 2 months, whilst we still have less actual murders.. 

But any who - In the UK it's still hard for "normal" people to get access to guns.  Illegal guns are apparently quite widespread according to police officers I know, but they are rarely used.  

That said, these crimes are increasing in the UK, and until the crime rate is 0, then there's always work to be done.  But I'd wager the UK gun laws are much more effective at protecting the people than the US ones are.  Hence why not many of us die to guns compared to US citizens.  

Where are they shipped in from, in general?

Relax guys, I was playng devil's advocate, I'm no gun advocate.

Thanks for the thought-provoking responses.

8 minutes ago, a m ole said:

i’d hazard that we are, much much safer, but not enough.

I don't know about that - London now has a higher murder rate than New York City

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Two shootings in London in the space of an hour have left a 17-year-old girl dead and a boy, 16, critically ill. The teenage girl, named locally as Tanesha, was found with a bullet wound in Tottenham on Monday night and pronounced dead at the scene. The boy had been found with gunshot wounds in Walthamstow earlier, with another boy, 15, who had stab injuries. Both attacks come amid concerns over rising violent crime in London. Police say the shootings are not linked. In Tottenham, a police cordon remains in place in Chalgrove Road, near Northumberland Park, where Tanesha was pronounced dead at 22:43 BST.

A 21-year-old woman called Tyesha, who knew the murdered girl, told the BBC the victim was "just chilling with her friends" when she was shot from a car for "no reason at all". "The car just pulled up and just started shooting," she said. "Her friend came banging on my door so I came out quickly. I even tried to save her - had to, had to." Tyesha said the gunshot wound, below the victim's breast, was not immediately visible and it looked like she was "having a fit". "I put her on her side and I was just rubbing her back, saying 'Everything's going to be OK'. I just can't believe it - so young. It's ridiculous now."

A witness said a woman, believed to be the victim's mother, began "screaming" when she discovered the girl shortly after the shooting. David Lammy, Labour MP for Tottenham, said he was "deeply worried" about London's rise in violent crime - particularly in his area. "There is no single cause, but there has been a big spike in both gun crime and knife crime across London," he said. "Certainly my constituency finds itself at the epicentre of that. There are real issues about a lack of resources." The community in Tottenham has already been gripped with grief and shock that a young female has had her life ended so tragically. I'm told there were dozens of people out until 02:00 BST consoling each other, while other residents woke to see police cordons and press at the scene. There was a poignant silence when the body of the 17-year-old was taken away, broken only by the sound of people crying. In this area there are people - no matter what age - who are fearful. Residents spoke about self-imposed curfews and mothers not letting their children out after 19:00.

Amid the sadness, there is also anger and questions over what the Mayor of London is doing. A local resident, who did not want to be named, said she heard multiple shots, which sounded like a "bomb" exploding. She said: "It's not nice. I've lived here for 40 years, and in the last two or three years it's become not a nice place. "There are so many drugs, stabbings and killings." Another neighbour, who did not want to be named, said stabbings were common in the area. The Tottenham resident said: "It's so violent around here. I nearly got stabbed the other day. If you've been around Tottenham a long time you get it." 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43624392

I was shocked to read this. Could anyone tell an outsider like me what the gun laws in the UK are like? How is it even possible to obtain a firearm other than for hunting purposes? It makes me wonder if it is unfair for those of us living outside the US to deride American gun laws so much. Are we that much safer and free from violent/gun crime?

11 hours ago, NurembergVillan said:

Durian Fruit.  And I ate some too.  Vile stuff.

Heresy

Going to the world cup 

17 hours ago, sne said:

Nah.

Henrik Larsson did the same thing retiring from the national side and came back, twice.

I'd love to have him back.

Edit: I get why some people would not want him back.

But you have to be realistic. Our current striker options have done a great job in the qualifiers, but.

Marcus Berg is playing in the UAE.

Toivonen is stuck on the bench in Toulouse.

Guidetti stuck on the bench in Celta Vigo.

Kiese-Thelin is out on loan from Anderlecht to Beveren in Belgium...

Zlatan is one of the greats of his generation and unlike what many think he is very much a responsible team player even thou his body language doesn't always look like it.

It would however totally change the group dynamics in the squad and that is always a risk.

Didn't realize how bad it was to be honest - I thought most if not all of the strikers were at least regulars at top-flight clubs in major European leagues.

How the hell did you guys manage to score enough goals to qualify?

Hi chaps

Been thinking about getting myself a pair of dedicated running headphones, have never owned a pair before. Any ideas where to start, what to look for etc.

Everton are utterly abject.

Ole ole ole ole, Matty Ryan

5 hours ago, Hornso said:

Cracked and bought this yesterday. At least it wasn't too expensive. $64AU

Where'd  you buy it from mate, I haven't been able to find a copy that's going for less than $80AU really

40 minutes ago, maqroll said:

That's USA out then. There needs to be a total overhaul of the program, top to bottom. It's a positive sign of the times that this result will be unacceptable to millions of supporters. Hard questions need to be asked.

It is somehow fitting that USA does not qualify for the World Cup during this Trump fiasco. Too bad, because the team could have been a positive global representative of our country to contrast with our buffoon president.

**** it all to hell.

Whatever happened to the goalkeeper production line you used to have - Howard's still playing in goal for you.

Awful commentator.

Jammy ****, MON's done it again

Just now, VillaChris said:

They stopped France from scoring.

I know...hard to believe!

Can't remember the last time I watched a team this defensively abject.

That there was something I wanted to post in this thread, but I forgot what it was.

28 minutes ago, Dom_Wren said:

Another great question, not as often as I should!

your supposed to clean your semi automatic handguns less than your revolvers and you semi automatic rifles more often. I believe it’s the heavier caliber leaves more residue and gunk for want of a better word! Again no expert but that’s what I’ve been told!

i actually find it therapeutic cleaning my guns! 

Calibre

Just now, mjmooney said:

Hey, where have you been for so long? 

And have you got a gun? 

I tried messaging you once on FB but you didn't respond so shoo

(no gun, but have handled guns before, so don't **** with me)

Dom, was wondering how often you clean your firearms, and if there's any difference between how you clean a pistol compared to how you clean your larger weapons.

On 02/10/2017 at 00:37, sidcow said:

Wow, Dirty Leeds seem to be losing it. Looked unbeatable and top of the table only a few weeks ago. 

Indeed, seemed to me like many were touting them as nailed on for promotion which is utter insanity imo at such an early point in the season. 

Sacked in the morning?

Just learnt today Rachel Riley did math at Oxford