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It's not up to him to help him.

It's up to Valero to help himself or for his wife/family/friends/manager to help him.

It's a shame the Valero - Pacquiao fight won't come to fruition now, would have been great to see Pac smash him about.

But it's ok for Arum to use him as a fighter despite knowing about his issues?

And generally, psychopaths can't help themselves, that's part of the problem (although rehab was scheduled)

Lots of fighters have issues. I don't think anybody expected him to stab his wife and then kill himself to be honest.

He was a medically diagnosed psychopath?

It's not up to him to help him.

It's up to Valero to help himself or for his wife/family/friends/manager to help him.

It's a shame the Valero - Pacquiao fight won't come to fruition now, would have been great to see Pac smash him about.

What did you expect Arum to do?

Valero was an alcoholic, druggie, nutcase - good riddance.

Yea, it's all Bob Arum's fault. Clearly.

I actually hope Harrison fights him first, I wouldn't be surprised to see Harrison KO the guy - he really is that shit.

I wouldn't go that far. He is begging to be KO'd though, sooner the better.

I actually would go that far, seriously. I think Harrison is piss-weak but if he came out and treated it as a 3 round fight, threw caution to the wind and actually attacked the guy he's got a chance.

Wlad isn't that bad.

Audley is a domestic level fighter.

Wlad would KO him in the first.

Wlad is scared of getting hit, but he has great footwork, he's tall, he has a long reach, an ATG jab, a great defence and immense power to protect himself from getting hit. Audley hates getting hit, but has none of that, so he gets hit often and retreats into his shell.

Bolton looked a lot stronger in defence without Cahill, glad he was back.

I gave him a slight advantage over Abraham, very slight, wasn't surprised the fight went like that. It was always going to be a Dirrell lopsided UD or a late Abraham KO, we sort of got both....

Ward will win against Dirrell. Similar skills, but Ward has better intangibles.

I judge a fighter's heart based on what he does in the ring. Ward roughed up and **** up Kessler, which I give him much, much credit for. I rate guys like Haye who go abroad and dethrone champions, but no fighter will fight abroad unless they have to.

He was comfortable against Abraham, because Abraham doesn't pressure effectively.

But he still fell over a couple of times when Abraham got into range.

Dirrell's a bitch. It will be great for boxing and super 6 when Ward knocks him out.

Who wants to watch somebody run, run, run and fall over when his opponent gets into punching range?

He has a very questionable heart.

Dirrell's such a pussy.

Hope Ward beats him and puts him out the competition.

Somebody else who doesn't understand the meaning of the word then. Anybody else want to join the club?

Fickle is exactly the right word for somebody who calls for MON to leave and be replaced by flavour of the month Hodgson.

if someone said to me right now that i could swap MON for Hodgson then i would have to seriously think about it

and the award for the most fickle comment ever goes to . . .

I'm sorry, but when are people going to actually look up the meaning of the word fickle, instead of just repeating something that clearing in the woods O'Leary came out with?

What's fickle exactly about wanting Hodgson? If Razor honestly believes that he'd be a better manager for us, then that isn't fickle in any way, shape or form. It's wanting the best for our club, and just having a different opinion to you doesn't make him fickle, it just means you don't understand the true meaning of the word.

The point is, Hodgson is flavour of the month and MON is at his lowest ebb as Villa manager.......suggesting we get rid of MON and replace him with Hodgson is fickle, a knee jerk reaction and plain bizarre.

Imagine if a few years ago when we were looking for a new manager Doug had picked Hodgson ahead of O'Neill, people would have lynched him. How times change.....this month, anyway.

Apologies in advance for the General but I think the club should categorically clarify MON's position. I appreciate that neither MON, the Club nor Mr Lerner likes to respond to speculation, if that's what it is, but if the Club does not make a firm statement the rumours will simply multiply. Such is the nature of the British media and the internet.

Agreed.

There needs to be a definitive statement. A statement the press can reprint i.e nothing to do with Elvis, just a straight answer.

5-1 utter shite this.. o neill has been here for years and we are still getting routed

Ferguson has been at Man Utd for about 25 years and they got routed last season by Liverpool. What's your point?

Small is a boring racist.

He deserved to lose, he's an embarrassment.

Obviously Pac has got bigger and better since he was 17, no one is denying that, but to go from being a good fighter to the P4P best is suspicious.

He was beating Morales and Barrera at lower weights, that just qualifies him as 'good' ? High standards you have there....

He was fighting professional from a very young age, so obviously there was an element of learning on the job. He was just a left handed fighter when he started, a 1-2 merchant. He's clearly learned a lot from Roach and improved immensely.

He's been beating great fighters all his career, he didn't just become great himself in the last 18 months.

Then there are those who ask how someone can be getting knocked out at Flyweight , and then be able to take shots from the likes of Miguel Cotto at Welterweight.

How old are you out of interest?

Pacquiao was 17 when he got knocked out the first time. He beat Cotto when he was 30.

You don't think in 13 years he might have a) got better naturally bigger.

You telling me that if you lost a fight at 17 to a small guy, when you were 30 you couldn't then beat up a big guy?

Agbonthewhore.

My sides are splitting.

HuereLOL HOEmes

PavluyWENCHko

Jermaine DeHOE

Gareth FAIL

Younes KaBULLSHIT

David BENTley.........oh.

Tom Huddle20stone

Sebastien BasSCHLONG

Ledley MING

Mine are much better

Carlos just got skinned. I love the bloke, but he isn't a right back

Be fair Rodallega would have outpaced Luke Young or Habib Beye just as easy.

In his time out, Young has been attributed with pace like Gabby, the overlapping ability of Cafu and the strength of Drogba.

Best RB in the world.

Downing looks like an expensive mistake alright. I'm not just saying this now because he scored last week, but even Boro fans told me we should have went for Johnson instead.

Lets be honest....you are just saying that because he scored last week.

Don't talk out of your arse.

But if we're being honest....you are saying it for exactly that reason, aren't you?

Downing looks like an expensive mistake alright. I'm not just saying this now because he scored last week, but even Boro fans told me we should have went for Johnson instead.

Lets be honest....you are just saying that because he scored last week.

Collins continues to be solid.

Didn't you read rule 1 of the match thread?

"Positive remarks discouraged - lambasting a player as a flop for an hour before he scores is encouraged"

If the Carew-Heskey partnership could do well against any team it would be Stoke surely.

Why would they do well against a team reknown for their aerial prowess?

If anything, you'd expect them to do well against an Arsenal type.

Because we are a team who like to cross the ball. :?

But why would they do well against Stoke?

You'd expect them to do well against team not reknown for being great in the air, not against a team that is reknown for being great in the air.....

If we didn't have 2 players good in the air up front, Stoke could head away our crosses all day, but with 2 big men we can compete with them better for balls into the box.

But that still doesn't explain 'if they could do well against any team it would be Stoke surely' - when in reality, Stoke are probably the last team they'd be their most effective against.

If the Carew-Heskey partnership could do well against any team it would be Stoke surely.

Why would they do well against a team reknown for their aerial prowess?

If anything, you'd expect them to do well against an Arsenal type.

Because we are a team who like to cross the ball. :?

But why would they do well against Stoke?

You'd expect them to do well against team not reknown for being great in the air, not against a team that is reknown for being great in the air.....

If the Carew-Heskey partnership could do well against any team it would be Stoke surely.

Why would they do well against a team reknown for their aerial prowess?

If anything, you'd expect them to do well against an Arsenal type.