MrBlack

Did you know.  Cows don't like having their Huddersfield?

Wednesday have a second too

Get in you Hudders.

2 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

Livescore says they've had zero shots on target yet lead 1-0, how's that work then?

It hit the post and went in...maybe that's why?

Norwich now winning too

Millwall Plymouth game looking like it could go either way so still a good chance blues find themselves in the bottom three even if they win.. as they are currently. 

Boo blues score

16 hours ago, Teale's 'tache said:

This was my most recent effort for those that are interested

'Tis a thing of beauty.

39 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Well where will new seats go, there isn't anywhere? Had to be upgrade of premium seats.

@lainux in addition ...

A lot of people have suggested that there is room for extra seats in the current footprint.  There used to be more anyway, so why couldn't they be reintroduced? Profile/rake can be modified, and concourse gaps can be filled. There is 100% the possibility to add 700+ seats without moving anyone out their current seat. There may well be the opportunity to add even more. 

I dont think it's a given that they will force anyone to move.  Call me naive, but I reckon the ~1300 Heck mentions is mostly new seats. It aligns with the total capacity they're claiming we'll have,  and aligns with his latest comments about keeping costs the same for everyone currently there, but increasing them for those that are willing to pay a surplus. The relatively small percentage that isn't moving people, will hopefully be those seats that usually go on general sale. It's easily done, and I really think Heck has learnt his lesson from the lower grounds debacle.

14 hours ago, Taxahunter said:

I don't know why people want Lo Celso, he has basically done nothing in his time at Spurs, he has 1 year left and we need to deal with Levy

14 hours ago, nick76 said:

I agree, I just don’t see it.  He would just be an unused sub 95% of the time given competition in that midfield.  We have to bring in players equivalent or better than what we have imo.

He seems to have done nothing at spurs because he keeps getting dropped for no apparent reason after a pretty good performance.

Emery, having worked with him and extolled his virtues before, seems to know he's a brilliant player. 

If we go back in for him,  I trust that it's because Emery thinks he'll improve our squad, and Monchi thinks we'll be able to get him for a relatively decent price.

If we dont sign him,  then fair enough, but if we do it's because he'll be a good value addition to our squad.

3 hours ago, wishywashy said:

Heck talked about launching "the next generation of our brand" over the coming weeks at his sports conference. Will be interesting to see what that entails. The new badge and the AV150 marquee are the only glimpses we've seen so far and both of those have had quite the negative reception on here and social media. Hopefully the rest is... better.

And the weirdest thing about what he's done is that the leaked badge and the AU500 have absolutely fk all in common.  They're totally alien to each other. On brand? My arse.

1 hour ago, Kingman said:

Just noticed relegation can be confirmed for them tomorrow!..   

A relegation party then we go 9 points clear in 4th 

I'm off for a wank! 

Are you regularly premature? .

 Of course, I really hope you're right, what scenes they would be.

3 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said:

true, it’s just a shame that the fortune made the rest of the badge boring and generic. 

I assume the restrictions we placed on them made it the way it was as a whole package.  It's grown on me, probably due to the success,  but it does lack vibrancy for sure. Lack of gold highlighting maybe an issue. Whatever, its definitely mistakable for others when monochrome. 

Having seen their other works and what they're capable of,  I'm loathe to place the blame on them. I'd love to see some of their concepts that perhaps stretched the brief to its limits or beyond, bet they'd be great. 

I assume the brief was to keep the old lion (due to decades or familiarity and ease of reusing merchandise/labels/etc), so we can't use the new lion.

It was also presumably to incorporate our full name in place of AVFC, keeping the star and adding the year.

And I'm guessing the final requirement was that it must have the same core colour arrangement to retain the sense of familiarity and association with our recent past.

Freedom to change the shield shape, but it has to be a shield.

It leaves little room to improve it. If the brief also said the yellow must be the same yellow then there was never any hope and whoever set the brief should be fired.

But assume there was room to play around with the shade of yellow, then they could easily have made it darker, and kept the Aston Villa text at the top and it would be miles better than what was leaked.

I really don't understand how they came up with what is so fundamentally flawed and brings back all the issues that we had with it that caused it to be replaced in the first place.

If someone wanted to offer a revision using my guidelines above (but not keeping the same yellow) I'd be intrigued to see how good a designer could make it look. 

(Also, the succes we've had with the new lion should mean we are glad to be associated with it and should now take precedence, but for now assume its going the way of the dodo)

3 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said:

Seeing both lions together, makes think I like the newer one more, it just scales better…

 

Defintely does. That's why we paid Dragon Rouge a fortune to design it.

Agree that it doesnt look great but I'm curious what a design expert would do to fix it. 

Use a different font where all letters have a similar size so space between letters doesn't need to change?

Have the letters all spaced equally but then the lion doesn't sit in the middle of the physical space?

It's the same issue we have with a circle,  and the name not sitting equally around both halves of the circumference.  What's the answer?

4 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said:

Surely they should know the exact figure if they're doing it in a few months' time?

I'm sure he will do, he just wasn't announcing it exactly. But the fact he said 1000 first means it isn't much over the halfway mark between 1000 and 1500.

2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

In fairness, that sounds a very good.short to medium term compromise.

Keep the regulars at similar pricing whilst giving them a better experience, as well asincreasing income through creating " Premium " seating and experiences which don't affect the general base.

The 1500 premium seats can be for our new plastic fans etc 

1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said:

I'm not sure we'll see anything in terms of changes to the bowl itself - if the club for example were to knock all of the boxes through - the gain is in losing all of the walls and doors at the back - in terms of seating, there's already space there in front of the boxes (but behind the general seating) it'd just be about using that space better - maybe two rows of seats the entire length of the pitch - the space gained is in losing all the dividing walls in the boxes and the space you need for individual tables, bars, units and fridges in each box.

With stuff like removing office space or making use of other dead spaces, it'll be interesting to see if they can add the seating capacity without moving people from GA seats - how they do that in the North Stand would be interesting for example - whether they'd look to add more seating behind the glass, or move the glass back and have seating in front of it. How they'd use the existing space in the Trinity but add capacity to it would be interesting, perhaps again they'll look to get rid of the boxes.

I have a feeling there will be some impact on GA capacity with some of it, but not the whole 1,500 and that the club will hopefully be able to use that extra hospitality income to control and manage any need to increase the prices on regular ticket buyers.

I think (might well be wrong) this would take us to over 4,000 hospitality seats on matchdays - which in terms of income probably means that Hospitality won't be far off bringing in the same amount of money as season ticket sales.

1300*

He said 1000, closer to 1500. So I'm inferring that means 1300.

Still a lot of seats to magic up, but a big chunk will come from converting current boxes. And I imagine there will be some reprofiling done also that adds in an extra row or two. Then, maybe, converting some standard seats to premium on top, but you'd hope this isn't seats dedicated to ST holders already.

3 minutes ago, Mazrim said:

I see Palace are basically touting Eze and Olise this summer. Would we be in the market for one, or both?
I wouldn't play Olise instead of Bailey, and Eze would be in stiff competition for a place in our midfield, but no doubt they'd add a lot of quality to the squad.

I'd be happy with both, but don't think they're a profile we can afford. Unless we sell someone from the first team. 

19 hours ago, It's Your Round said:

I have kept away from this thread so far, for a few reasons. I’m still very much focused on enjoying the end to this season, I’m not that up to date on emerging global talent these days, and the third and probably best reason is that I don’t care who we sign any more. I no longer know better than the manager, and I have total faith that Emery and Monchi will find us the players to make us even better. 
 

Feels weird but it’s kind of relaxing to know it’s all in hand. 

Same. Its funny how all of a sudden its not really important who we sign. Good times hey!

Who (if anyone) we sell might be important, but that's not something to be worrying about now.

14 minutes ago, ender4 said:

So 1,500 extra PREMIUM seats being added this summer.

This bit of that article above is interesting...

1 - Prices similar. No increase is standard seat pricing for next season?

2 - better experience for general admission.  Not sure what they will do to assist with this.

1 - maybe a little one but that would be expected. Inflation is still high but about 4% instead of the 10%+ we've seen in recent years. I think most would be OK with a few percent given our success, and I read similar to mean not the same. 

2. Probably easily (albeit with an immediate cost and not a huge amount of upside)... fix the toilets, keep them clean, put in the self dispensing drink aisles in all stands, hire competent servers at food kiosks. 

21 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

So improving the overall experience and keeping prices where they are now while adding in 1000 to 1500 additional Premium seating and Premium Spaces. Sounds good

Sounds like he's learnt from the experiences of the Terrace View and lower grounds. He knows there's a majority core that will not budge, but there are those that will upgrade for premium on occasion or as a means of getting in. And there are going to be more wanting to get in next season.

So if the only option is a premium seat, people may well be ok with that.

Recogisng that the core needs to improve (yes it was obvious but he's now said publicly that he'll do something about it) is good too.

Another step in the right direction Mr Heck. Keep them coming. And please make the next one a badge that isn't what's been trademarked.

Why is it even yellow. Why do we not use a golden tone like the gold used by @Ingers (welcome to the forum).

If we insist on keeping the old lion, and the old yellow on blue on claret combination, then just make the yellow darker. It's still wrong because we aren't blue and gold, or gold blue and claret, but it is at least visible from a distance.

But no. A drop shadow. In 2024. F@#k me

16 hours ago, MapleVilla said:

Insane. Feel like his name is being dragged through the mud with court cases flying around.

It must be horrible for his family. A constant reminder of the tragedy and all the clubs care about is money.

Let it go Cardiff, you scumbags.