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2 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said:

I think its nap time

Isnt it 9am in Australia? You lazy Aussies

2 minutes ago, sidcow said:

Or indeed the facts insead of rhetoric designed purely to invoke a response. I don't even know why I have fallen for gracing this utter nonsense with a response. 

Because you realise you may be one of the sheep who blindly follow whats told. You havent put forward a coherent argument so you may aswell spout nonsense. Although a similar tactic got Trump in office and Brexit pass. The uneducated follow the loudest noise

1 hour ago, Mjvilla said:

No. You're jumping the gun. I was suggesting that if those clubs are where they are now, then maybe Bruce was overachieving by being where he had them? It's not difficult. I didn't once suggest that those clubs demise came about because he left them. But that doesn't fit into your anti-Bruce agenda. 

Ill put the question out there again, like I've put it out there many times and never really got a decent response. Who, realistically, can we attract who will do the job you want? 

This question is for all the people who want Bruce out because I genuinely want an answer that will make me think 'actually, yeah... he would do a better job than bruce'

You havent a clue buddy, have a quick look through history rather than spouting rubbish

55 minutes ago, sidcow said:

I smell a Troll. 

You have come on here blatantly spouting a lot of highly inflammatory garbage purely to incite heated responses and generally piss people off and by your own admission you are not a follower of this great club. Anyone who supports this club knows when he arrived we were just 2 points off the relegation zone with just one win all season. Until yesterday we still had an outside chance of a play off spot after winning 7 in 8 games. But you apparently still think this is where we were when he took over? 

Why are you here? You are clearly not a supporter of this club. 

No I clearly am a supporter of the club hence why I want it to progress and not be happily stuck in the championship, something some not all of ye think. Its pathetic that I get called a troll because I dont agree with some supporters on blind following of Bruce. Where have I by my own admission said Im not a follower of this great club. So he took over a team 10 points out of the play offs and through some brilliant motivation and tactical nous we are now 11 points outside the playoffs. We never had a chance of playoffs this was made clear at christmas 

9 minutes ago, av1 said:

You are either a troll or an idiot. Either way i won't respond to anymore of your stupid posts. 

Yeah Im the one trolling, you jump in and throw out inaccurate facts. Im actually hoping your a troll otherwise its a little sad

Just now, av1 said:

Sheffield UTD that are currently in the 2nd division. 

 

Huddersfield the championship club.

The soon to be relegated Wigan

 

The soon to be relegated Sunderland.

Hull are playing premier league football because of Bruce. They will be playing in the championship next year. 

 

Are you a troll mate? Because your reasoning is absolutely pathetic. I should have ignored you after your claim that Tim Sherwood and Bruce are the same level. 

God buddy that post was just bullshit. Sheffield went to the premier league after he left.  All you showed is you havent a clue

2 hours ago, Mjvilla said:

Would we? How about 2 goals conceded in 10? Without kodjia, we wouldn't be where we are now, but I think we would be lower mid table. We won at Wigan without him scoring, we were 1-0 up at Rotherham without him scoring. 

Theres also no saying whoever was in his place wouldn't score? Sherwood openly admitted he played for benteke and any dribs and drabs off him. I don't think that style would appease some of the fans on here. 

Its a crap argument anyway (not from you) because sherwood was genuinely a chancer while Bruce has actually got credentials!

If Bruce had such quality credentials why has a top club never taken a chance on him. Even premier league Villa didnt, they only gave him a shot as they were down to the last straw. How many times was his name mentioned for Newcastle ffs. 

3 hours ago, av1 said:

Anyone that claims that Steve Bruce is at the same level as Tim Sherwood knows absolutely nothing about the game of football. 

These people should ignored/avoided at all cost 

Anyone who thinks Bruce is better than Sherwood should also be avoided, those really know nothing about football and base everything on what SKY tells them

3 hours ago, Mjvilla said:

Talk about a reliance on kodjia then say you'd rather sherwood (nearly) when sherwood relied far more on Benteke and Adebayor (at spurs) for goals and openly admitted so. What was that you were saying about blind faith or something or nonsense?

I would purely rather Tim on the basis that he tries to win games, I think they are both shit managers and wouldnt pick either had I a choice 

3 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

If he was so good why have no championship sides appointed him? Even his previous club Blackburn didn't want him.

Where is he now? Oh yeah that's right flopping at swindon

Sure Bruce flopped at his first few jobs, maybe Tim will end up better than Pep. Plus where did I say he was good, I never once said Tim was a good manager, I said he would have tried to win against Burton something Bruce doesnt try, his mandate is not to lose at all cost

2 hours ago, sheepyvillian said:

Not that impressive, is it ?

Nope, but hey most people choose to ignore that

9 minutes ago, VillanousOne said:

Is he back?

No idea, but if he is Id like to see him play

2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Sherwood was a disaster. Clueless and a fraud as shown when he got found out. Signed some absolute shit and was arguably one of our worst tactical managers we have had in history. 

Sherwood would never keep 8 clean sheets out of 10. He would never get a team promoted and he would struggle to win back to back games.

The suggestion that he is better option that Bruce is laughable 

Anyone else? How about McLeish? Even he has done more than Sherwood 

What are you basing that on, he never had a chance to manager in the championship, for all you know he could dominate. He kept us up in the league and got us to a final, as for the players he signed the French lads werent his. Just to clarify by no means do I want Sherwood back, I dont actually disagree with you on his talents. I merely have Bruce on the same level as him, my point was at least with Tim we tried to win games and this was in the top flight. With Bruce we try to not lose games and this is with the better players in the championship playing Burton

15 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said:

You realise Bruce only spent what he made from sales in his last season at Sunderland, right? 

Bruce left Hull because it was coming up to August and he hadn't been given any money. By the time the season started, they still hadn't bought anyone. As for your love in with the do-gooder Hull owner. He showed massive ambition by bringing in Mike Phelan as manager, didn't he? That bloke with a great track record, no doubt he'll be there for years. Then selling off the clubs top scorer in January. All in the clubs best interests, of course. 

Or maybe, just maybe, he's tight and Bruce wasn't willing to put up with his nonsense. 

Time for you to wake up to the real World. 

Bruce changed the whole team and then got sacked thats what he wanted to do at Hull and he wasnt allowed. 

Maybe just maybe Bruce left the club in the lurch because he thought he had the England gig. So what if he sold the clubs top scorer, he went out and got a quality manager who had proven success abroad and look where they are now.  He could have done a Villa and went for one of the merri go round boys McClaren

5 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said:

Christ. Darwin award winning post here. 

Opinions can change. I think Kodjia is the man to lead the line for us. If he doesn't score another goal by November, I'll rethink that opinion. Because you base your opinion on what you see and the facts at hand. You don't have an opinion and blindly follow it no matter what.

Wow real Darwin post here, lets hope everything works out because well thats the only thing we are allowed to think. Its flip flopping nothing more. But sure off with you, you can enjoy being a mid table championship club. Ive heard plenty of ye in the Ashley Westwood is quality club, its called blind denial

1 minute ago, Demitri_C said:

You would take Sherwood over Bruce 

Nearly and that should say a lot

3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

I'd like him to start every game when fit. We have nothing to play for and he will benefit a lot from the experience. 

Id like to see Steer get a run out if hes back from injury 

3 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said:

I don't think you understand how the burden of proof works, it's on the person making the claim.

And their owner being terrible is nothing like Merson being an idiot. Their owner is literally throwing a hissy fit because he couldn't change Hull's name. He said Hull's own supporters could go die because they didn't want the name changed, he sold their two best players this season whilst they were battling relegation, he waited until October to bother appointing a permanent for Bruce and he basically said he couldn't be arsed to support the club if he couldn't get his name change. He is verifiably terrible, and he didn't move Bruce on, Bruce resigned, and Allam certainly doesn't have Hull's best interests at heart.

Anyway, this is massively off topic and I can't be arsed to keep arguing with someone who keeps making things up about what I've said.

I understand it perfectly thanks

Bruce resigned because he couldnt go on spending spree ala what he did with Sunderland and in his previous season in the top flight with Hull

Sound buddy, off to denial land with you. Im sure you will be back in November wanting Bruce out 

Would love for us to take a chance on someone like Nakoulma, Hes took to ligue one like a duck to water, at 29 probably a little to old 

Just now, MessiWillSignForVilla said:

No. Because I know what I posted. I never said Bruce was perfect, that's something you claim I said, so it's on you to prove it. I change my view based on the evidence before me, not blindly stick to a position regardless of the current situation.

And just FYI, the reason Hull didn't back him in the summer is because their owner is terrible and is refusing to fund the club as he is throwing a hissy fit because he couldn't get permission to change Hull's name. You'll notice that Phelan and SIlva weren't particularly backed either, Hull have about 15 first team players and a load of loans.

I said look back you will find it, there now its on you to prove it, someone whos opinion flip flops on the bases of a few good results isnt a opinion I take serious tbh

There owner is terrible, similar nonsense spouted by Merson when Silva was appointed because he was foreign. Maybe he was looking at the clubs best interest moving on from Bruce, but sure that doesnt fit the agenda as Bruce the messiah does it

Just now, Xela said:

I agree, inconsistent so far but looking better in recent weeks. 

I would refer a more experienced keeper. 

Ive been dreaming of a quality keeper since Friedel

8 minutes ago, Xela said:

Its a mixed bag. Fortunate with Kodj, Chester and Jed

He's also been unfortunate the previous management bought Gollini, Elphick, Tish and McCormack. 

Lets be fair Johnstone has cost as much goals as Gollini

2 minutes ago, Xela said:

The games we win are flukey but i'm sure the games we lose we deserve to?

We're not going to get anywhere by keep sacking the manager and staff and starting afresh every 6 months IMO. 

Well we deserved to win a lot of RDM games, we didnt. With Bruce we never look like winning when we have to,  any time weve had to win this season we lost or drew. 

8 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said:

I'm sorry, where did I say any of that?

I thought Bruce should've been sacked back in February, but the recent form has changed my mind because it's been bloody brilliant winning consistently, if we go back into the awful form we were in January/February there's no doubt my mind would change again, because I judge our team on how they are currently doing not how they were doing months ago. Bruce has his failings, and there are certainly improvements to our game and team I'd like to see, but that doesn't mean we should sack him, especially since our form is so good currently.

Read back Im sure you will find it. So you arent even consistent with your view, a few lucky wins and now you think hes the man for the job. Christ

Lets see

Sheffield - failed to get promotion

Huddersfield - failed to get promotion

Wigan - Lost play off semis and left club after 2 months 

Crystal Palace - left club after 3 months #loyalty

Birmingham - Good job, even if it was the dirt

Wigan - Kept them up

Sunderland - failure, thought changing all the players in the team was the way to go, wonder did delusional fans say a few quality signings and we will be grand

Hull - Got them up, but there is a reason the board wasnt willing to back him after the previous season in the top flight. 

And Villa - Well I think hes been a failure,  we got a few wins on the trot and that has taken the spot light of him, incorrectly in my view.

So of the 8 jobs excluding Villa he failed at 5 of them. The only thing this shows is hes clearly on the merri go round