Mandy Lifeboats

5 minutes ago, Thug said:

And there you go ladies and gentlemen.

His actual answer reads ‘actually you’re right, there’s nothing else left to do.’ 
 

Point proven.

OK........here's a suggestion.  

Hamas should revoke their charter to accept that Israel exists and not justify the murder of Jews. 

They should develop a charter that doesn't read like it was written by a madman in 1500. 

Public opinion for the Palestian cause was steadily growing. They should have continued to build that public opinion by engaging with the western public. 

They should limit military action to military targets. 

They should capitalise upon people like Banksy who owns the "Walled Off Hotel" over there. 

They should kill less civilians. 

I also have a suggestion for you -

Maybe you should respect my position. I can support the Palestinians without supporting Hamas. 

It's no different to many of my other views.  I can support the concept a united Ireland without supporting the IRA.  

1 hour ago, Thug said:

1. What an utterly disgusting post.

2. What you’re saying is that when (if) israel murder thousands of people it’s ALL because of what Hamas did?!

3. By your rationale, the Israeli civilians that were murdered was a 100% responsibility of the Israeli government, after all its their constant provocation that led to the massacre??

4. And to bring comparisons to **** Hitler?! Are you out of your mind?

5. This is a thought disease spreading through the world to ignorant people who buy all the shit fed to them by the crap they watch on TV.

6. How on earth can you sit there and actually believe that people getting bombed is justified?

7. Your bias is as obvious........ And it’s disgusting.

8. Both sides need to stop the violence.

9. Grow up. 

 

 

1. That's you opinion.  You are free to express it.  But you seemingly ignore the numerous times I express support for the Palestinians. 

2. Let me be clear.  I am saying that Hamas have given Israel the anger and justification to potentially kill thousands in the next week. 

3. The Israeli dead were killed by Hamas. Israel has played its part in this whole situation. So has the British Empire, Iran, Syria, Egypt and many more parties.  

4. I stand by my comparison in the context that it was written.  Sometimes the leadership of a group gets to a point where its damaging its own people more than the enemy.   Hitler in 1945 is the most famous example. 

5. I have never thought of myself as ignorant.  I am a keen reader of history and I believe I put my viewpoint across in a polite way and with rationale.  Ignorant people tend to dismiss others views out of hand and resort to insults. 

6. I am a realist.  Sometimes it's necessary to fight.  We don't live in the 1500 when armies would meet at an arranged date and location to resolve matters. 

7. I assume I am no longer on your Xmas card list?  

8. Agreed. 

9.  Mrs Lifeboats?  Is that you?  

I am happy to discuss this further IF you moderate your tone and cease the insults. 

1 hour ago, Thug said:

What do you suggest? 

love to hear your thoughts on what tactic you would suggest?

 

 

 

Well............NOT murdering foreign nationals at a peace festival would be my first suggestion.  

23 minutes ago, delboy54 said:

Just been reading The Hamas Covenant or Hamas Charter, formally known in English as the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement....

It makes depressing reading to be honest 

 Thanks for pointing it out.  

Wow!  

I particularly like the part that says the a woman does not need her husband's permission to fight the invaders.  Nor does a slave need their master's position.  

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woman can go out to fight the enemy without her husband's permission, and so does the slave: without his master's permission.

@Rodders

I think you articulate the point very well. 

At one point Hitler had the almost unanimous support of the German people.  But towards the end sections of his own army were trying to kill him.  He became ineffective.  He caused huge amout to of damage to the world but also to Germany and the German people. He had to go.  

I am not going to li,en Hamas to the Nazis.  But the one thing they have in common is that they failed but carried on with the same tactics to the bitter end. Hamas has reached the stage where they are hiding in a bunker under the Reichstag telling others to fight to the bitter end. 

I would hope that Palestine shares some things with 1945 Germany.  I hope they see that an armed struggle is pointless and then rebuild.  

And now we come to the award for the worst decisions of 2023.  Here to read the awards is Teresa May . 

The nominees are -

Hamas for attacking a peace festival attended by foreign nationals. 

SHA for sacking their manager whilst 6th in the table and bringing in Wayne Rooney. 

And the winner is...........

A group of desperate criminals who inhabit an area unfit for normal human habitation............SHA. 

If 96% of the deaths in this conflict have been Palestinian maybe it shows that the Palestinians need to change tactics because its doing more damage to itself than to Israel. 

Just now, villa89 said:

It's the cornered animal analogy, decades of mistreatment, 2 million people packed into a place without basic services and at some point they will try to fight back whether it benefits them or not. 

I agree.  But it was a particularly stupid way of fighting back.  

If the UK had invaded Germany in 1940 we'd all be saying that it was a stupid idea and no surprise that it failed and caused the UK horrendous loses. 

I can appreciate the plight of the Palestinian people. That doesn't mean I have to disagree with the upcoming slaughter of Hamas.  

Hamas claims to be the legitimate government of the Gaza Strip. 

If my country was almost completely reliant on a neighbour for electricity, water and food and their military was bigger and better armed - I don't think I'd invade and murder its civilians. 

There is blame on both sides.  But the latest crisis was caused by Hamas.  They gained very little and will lose 200 times more in the coming days. 

Whether you agree with the Palestine people and their suffering is irrelevant. Their government is 100% to blame for the upcoming death of thousands of its own people.  

It's no different to the deaths of thousands of innocent Germans in WW2.  Hitler ruined Germany - not the allies. 

That kid on the adverts that keeps fetching dirty water for his family to drink. 

Is he completely stupid? 

AEW seem to be repeating the mistakes of WCW and TNA.  Having Jeff Jarrett in a Texas Chainsaw Massace Match was a horrendous low point.  

AEW really needs to push its own talent and ditch some of the ex-WWE talent.  I really do not want to see the Hardy Boys, Keith Lee, Jeff Jarrett , Christian Cage etc.

@Jonesy7211

It's great to hear that there is good news on both fronts. I hope the good news continues.  

12 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

I guess having public said they were at war, turning off the power supply to the civilian population would be a war crime?

No.  

It's no different to blowing up bridges, destroying fuel dumps or destroying rail tracks.  

A functioning power system has an obvious military value. 

48 minutes ago, blandy said:

That’s all fine. Location is a factor. But if you take all the drivers in a location, being rear ended on a Monday does not make it more or less likely that you will be rear ended on the Friday. The insurance companies treat you like it is more likely it will happen to you again, than if it hadn’t happened.  That’s simply not true.

I lived in Brum for 5 years and I was involved in 2 accidents.  Neither were my fault. 

In the last 20 years of living in a sleepy country village I have been involved in no accidents. 

 That shows that ( in general) someone driving regularly in Brum is more likely to have an accident than someone driving in my current home area.  

51 minutes ago, blandy said:

I’m very confident that is not the case. It’s how you use the numbers. Having an accident absolutely does not make anyone more likely to have another one. If anything the reverse is true for individuals. However if you cherry pick people and categorise them into a group, then that group can then be assessed. Essentially by adding in “drivers who have been rear ended while stationary” to a group “boy racers who just passed their test” or “bad drivers” if you  like, you can then justify to yourself that this group of “people involved in an accident” are higher risk. But only because you’ve lumped 2 or more different categories of driver into one “risk” group.  Or to put it another way, boy racers and bad drivers are high risk and remain high risk. People rear ended or driven in to are low risk and remain low risk.

I don't agree. 

Your premium is already based upon where you live.  Statistically a high crime area that is exceptionally busy will lead to more claims than a sleepy retirement village. 

But where we drive is equally important. If I am involved in 5 accidents a year it shows that I regularly drive in areas where accidents occur.  From a statistical viewpoint,  whether I am to blame is irrelevant.  It simply shows that I am more at risk than someone who hasn't been involved in any accident. 

25 minutes ago, Genie said:

 

The narrative that they are completely clueless is just propaganda for the Western audience. The status quo of the last 12 months suggests otherwise.

 

They had Ukraine surrounded on 3 sides. The Russian Army was much bigger and much better equipped.  Russia had inital success.  But since Ukraine has been equipped with modern weapons the Russian Army has been a disaster.  

Estimates place Russian losses at 200,000 - 250,000  Wagner admitted to losing 20,000 in Bakhmut alone. They have lost their flagship to a country with no navy.  They cannot gain air superiority over a country with no air superiority fighters.   

All Russia has shown since June 2022 is that they are good at WW1 tactics.  They can dig trenches and take small amounts of land with massive casualties. 

The stated aims of the SMO were - 

Stop NATO expansion.  NATO is bigger then ever. 

Demilitarise Ukraine.  Ukraine's forces are bigger and better armed than 2 years ago. 

Stop westernisation of Ukraine.  Ukraine is more western than ever. 

Protect Russian speakers in east Ukraine.  They can't protect Russian speakers in west Russia. 

I am not sure how any of that is propaganda?  Russia isn't clueless. Its corrupt, inept and genocidal. 

Russian sources are reporting that the rail lines onto the Kerch Bridge has been hit. 

Some think it's a railway sidings and cargo depot. 

We'll know more tomorrow but its good news.   

17 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

Me too. Forever The Singing Detective. 

37 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said:

That is a sad one. 

For what it’s worth, I’m thinking Dennis Potter, rather than Harry.

I'll always remember that emotional line "Jerry, some queers burnt my club down". 

20 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

 

Holy shit this is the exact thing I need and couldn't find anything like it anywhere. I'd basically given up

We put a new house number up (Like everything else in the house the old one looked like it had been bought in 1950 and never changed), but the old one left some unsightly holes in the cement.

I was about to resort to filling it with filler and getting a sample from dulux that was cement colour to paint over it

 

This will do the job perfectly

I got mine from "The Range".  It was £2.69 a tube. 

https://www.therange.co.uk/decorating/paint-and-painting-accessories/painting-accessories/fillers/soudal-repair-express-cement/?position=6&s=168210

On 10/08/2023 at 19:01, VILLAMARV said:

There is a gap and crack filler (fnar) that comes in a caulking gun type tube like silicone tubes which I've used on really small cracks in render - someone else had bought it and I was a bit confused really as to why they wouldn't just mix up some mortar and fill the gaps - but I was soon proving myself wrong. The nozzle made for really easy application i guess it comes in a range of colours. Mine was prior to painting so I didn't care about a colour match really. The picture would suggest it's up to a re-pointng job

Not cheap compared to a bag of cement and a bag of sand but a lot less hassle especially if you hate trowels and it's a small job.

 

Thanks for this link. I used this to repoint and it looks great. 

It's been a satisfying summer of DIY.  

• 2 bedrooms redecorated with built in wardrobes replaced in 1. 
• Stair bannister and spindles sanded (never again) and painted.  
• Rear garage door repaired and repainted. 
• Various areas of brickwork repointed. 
• Driveway and patio pressure washed. 
• Fence panel fitted. 

No trips to A&E, no major mishaps and no calls to tradesmen to undo my mistakes. 

1 hour ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

The Captain of the Moskva and the crew were shown on TV the day after the Moskva sank.  Several of those shown are still "missing".  

This is quite an interesting tale.  

Several of the sailors in the video were recognised by family.  A few days later they were told that their relative was "Absent - location unknown".  This is very different to "Missing in action " or ""Missing - presumed dead".  It's more akin to being "Absent without leave". 

Months later they were deemed "Missing - presumed dead" by a judge who ruled they were probably killed by the mishandling of ammunition.  

UK naval sources said the Russian Navy doesn't invest in damage control systems that would have saved the ship. Apparently a UK ship of the same type has an automated firefighting system that would have activated within 1 second of the strike.  The loaded missiles would have been automatically jettisoned once the fire spread towards them.  

But most importantly the Uk navy gives its sailors shoes with heat resistant soles.  Russia doesn't.  Many of the Moskva crew would have been running over red hot decking in bare feet as their shoes melted away. 

We learnt a lot from the Falklands. 

1 hour ago, Genie said:

Some shenanigans ongoing ref the blowing up of the Navy HQ at the weekend. The admiral who Ukraine say they was killed appears in a video of a meeting Russia say happened today.

The Captain of the Moskva and the crew were shown on TV the day after the Moskva sank.  Several of those shown are still "missing".