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Buzzing about them losing 0-2

i don’t think we will win today but just imagine

12 hours ago, villaglint said:

Who did we buy in that time? 
 

Tielemans, Diaby,  Torres, Rodgers. Then Zaniolo and Lenglet on loan. Anyone else I’m missing? 
 

Almost £4 a pop. 

new contracts too

So the likelihood is that Leverkusen is through, Dortmund is out and god knows about Bayern.

Not terrible but Liverpool is 3 goals down, Arsenal and Man City drew..... all three could easily go through but it is all up in the air.

Not the mid week we wanted and next week is totally crucial, we will very likely know what is happening with a 5th CL place.

1 hour ago, ender4 said:

So from FFP to PSR to SCR.  
 

Better name than FFP but can they now just stick to the same name please.

Tbh if the 85% is true I think it’s worst than the current uefa system for us.

also the PL rules mean nothing if you want to or expect to be in uefa competitions as you have to adhere to their 70% rule

4 hours ago, MapleVilla said:

Do we need to do a whip round to cover your accounting fees for such glorious work?!

That's a bit of a shitty comment to make to someone who has tried to use the available data to put forward his views forward explaining it so anyone can understand

4 hours ago, Pongo Waring said:

I think we beat Arsenal on Sunday 

i highly doubt it

I know the point of a forum is to chat but what is there to say really.

5th is guaranteed, you will find out what happens with 5th being a CL place in 8 or 9 days.

its pointless trying to work out what is going to happen in ours and spurs results other than they need to drop some points and we need to gain a few on them

the weekend after next loads of your thoughts are going to be answered  

1 hour ago, GlobalVillan said:

October/November I think.

probably only up to speed by the christmas period in my head, who knows he may be back in training early, either way another good DM is needed

51 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

Someone like Tosin is on a free from Fulham I think this season. Spurs been linked with him in the past.

Lloyd Kelly from Bournemouth also on free transfer but given Howe signed him and Newcastle have lost two CBs to ACLS within a week of each other then I can only see him ending up there.

I've always rated Tapsoba at Bayer Leverkusen but I think with their success this season we wouldn't have any chance and doubt he'd leave anyway with Xabi Alonso remaining for another year.

very expensive.

3 hours ago, fightoffyour said:

What happened to Kamara being out for 4-5 months?

Christmas time, he did his ACL didn’t he?

1 hour ago, striker said:

I thought FFP rules were going to be changed in the summer as too many clubs are struggling to stay within the boundaries set?

Maybe but I think those changes are worse for us, regardless the uefa ones are the only ones that matter unless you are a relegation threatened team

3 hours ago, Czarnikjak said:

When you saying we are £15m under, do you include this season in your 3 year calculations, or you mean 3 year balance situation at the end of last season?

If you mean our situation now, I very much doubt it. It would need to take massive reduction in our losses this season to get us to £15m psr surplus. Our loss would need to essentially come down from £120m to £45m for us to end up with £15m psr surplus at the end of this season.

Yes including this season.

the losses reported have loads of deductions.

for example our owners keep injecting money into the club through creating shares when we buy players so only the amortisation counts.

one of those pro accounts worked it all out 

3 hours ago, DakotaVilla said:

The general consensus appears to be that if we qualify for champions league we won’t have huge room to spend but won’t have to sell anyone significant either.

If we don’t qualify for champions league then it’s very likely we will have to sell a first teamer to avoid PSR issues and to create some spending room. 

Some of the posters have done some quite detailed analysis so hopefully can provide additional detail. 

CL or EL makes no difference to spending as it is a one off qualification.

The club can’t go, well we have an extra 50m so let’s buy 120m of players on 4 year deals because the fee is amortised so when you don’t get qualification the year after you are screwed.

The sensible way of looking at it is your top players are less likely to leave and it makes the club more financially healthy.

this of course changes if you qualify for a second or third time in succession as you have banked a bit of the profits.

The reality is we are 15m under the 105 for. 3 year period and we have a bunch of surplus players who will fetch their book value collectively with a few of the doing the heavy lifting which frees up about 25m a year in amortisation plus whatever their wages are.

if we shift them all and the owners are willing to put the cash into the club as they have previously then we can spend the kind of money I was saying on page 53 without breaking PSR or FFP

12 hours ago, duke313 said:

Didn’t we just scrape by FFP? Obviously we had no room to sign those positions without making a major sale. 

no we are 15m under the limit

9 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said:

It's interest free debt to their owner...he paid for their stadium. 

i mean that is great from their owner but these massive sales they have made should have wiped all that out.

1 hour ago, Lichfield Dean said:

I know FFP/PSR doesn't work this way, and debt isn't always a bad thing, but to me this is the most important of all the charts, especially when considered in conjunction with some of the others:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68713522

how the **** do Brighton have that much debt?

I have no worries about FFP this summer, I worked a list that didn’t include selling any of our major players whilst spending a lot that didn’t break the rules, brought down wages and was sustainable with the amortisation of the players brought for future years.

its on page 53 of the transfer thread 

7 hours ago, duke313 said:

You have to remember he supports Man Utd, they’re entitled to win everything don’t you know.

Oh to be that used to winning….

it would be nice

2 hours ago, omariqy said:

Can’t stop watching this

 

Biggest injustice he has ever seen? I can think of about half a dozen vs us alone.

why did we go on the attack? ‘It’s the Man Utd way’

3 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

This is why many weren’t too concerned about United. 

That and they can add up

1 hour ago, fightoffyour said:

What is or was this mythical 5 points? They’re 11.9 points behind us ffs

I just don’t get how they can’t read a table, how they suddenly think they will win 7 in a row

Shhhhhh to all the Man Utd for fifth people now please

Just turned it on its 2-2

5 hours ago, DJBOB said:

UCL qualifying might not be the floodgate that pushes us back into the spotlight.

But it also could be.

Saying that it definitely won't overlooks the massive importance it has in terms of boosting our revenues and our profile to be able to compete on an annual basis. It may well end up like Newcastle or Leicester. But we could also propel ourselves into constant European campaigns and a closer reach for a title race, more funds for a bigger squad to compete in cups. It's kind of boggling to me that people are understating it.  We were last in the Europa league 13 some years ago. We were last in the European Cup 40 years ago! 

There's a whole generation of Villa fans who have never seen us in the European Cup/UCL - including me.

 

You can count on the revenue from sponsorship etc you can’t can’t on CL money.

3 hours ago, VillaChris said:

Qualifying for CL for 2-3 years running makes the difference as Spurs have done at points in the last decade.

All I'd say is be prepared for more selections like last night at various points next season which will be an interesting reaction on here.

Qualifying for the CL has no boosts for players we could sign other than a bit of extra cash for that one year, which doesn’t mean much because of PSR wage restrictions and amortisation of any player we do buy because we won’t be counting on getting the income in the years after.

what it does is help keep our players and increase our commercialisation through increased exposure. That is the lasting effect.

getting CL 2 or 3 years out of say the next 5 years will just super charge that, cement us in revenue behind the big six, open the gap behind us.

it would also allow us to spend like we will get into it most years.