ClaretandStu

McClaren's management record isn't actually that bad. Decent results at Boro, Uefa Cup Final, won the league with FC Twente for the first time in their history. His spells at England and Wolsburg were not great admittedly, but with England he was let down with individual errors, and Wolfsburg he had a bloody awful bunch of players, it was a near impossible task to achieve what the fans wanted. In light of all this McLeish stuff, I would welcome McLaren with open arms. At least he's a solid manager. What McClaren has achieved is far beyond anything McLeish has done in the game. Far beyond? Being a coach under Fergie is experience not achievement. Middlesborough on EUFA cup run was good, but with very low expectations on him. Winning the dutch league is equivalent to SPL in my opinion and AM did that twice then qualified Rangers to the last 16 of the CL first time for a scottish team to achieve that in the CL AM did better the McClaren at international level IMO, to get so close to qualifying with big win over Italy.

A bit OTT IMHO. His managerial record isn't that bad with Rangers and Scotland and has good recommendations from Dick Advocat, Fergie. Ask Hibs and Rangers fans, his style of play was more attacking with more decent players available. At Birmingham he inherited club 14 games in and 16th place, very difficult to turn around with that quality squad in your first season. Got straight back up though and last season had key injuries, new ownership didn't get on with and carling cup distraction. All facts that have to be added to the mix.

RL had previously met Mcleish and has been quoted in the past saying he admires him as a manager.

Taking his points per game average in the PL 1.13 that would give the Bluenoses survival every season, plus a cup not too bad considering the squad and njuries he had, change of ownership. Martinez has just had his honeymoon season at wigan and only just survived Taking Bluenoses over 14 games into the season does not give him a fair amount of time to bring his management onto the team to survive. Last season he had some key injuries like Bowyer Fergusen Zigic and Dann.

McCleish had key injuries last season. Martinez has used up his first season PL honeymoon factor. McCarthy took 3 seasons to promote Wolves back to where they were two seasons before. Lets give AM a chance.

Mcleish's CV looks pretty similar to MON's. Mcleish has experience of playing under Fergie, MON Clough. Won two titles with Rangers in three years. In premier league had to work with the players he had in Birmingham, and for Scotland, in a style that got the best out of the players. When Hibs and BCFC got relegated straight back up next season finishing 3rd and 9th respectively. First SPL manager to guide team to Champions league last 16, in 2006; MON got to UEFA final. Both got two carling cup wins. Gave Scotland best shot at qualifying that I can remember. Rangers and Hibs fans can tell you that he was more attacking under them. I met Mcleish at Munich airport as the blue noses were returning from preseason airport. Had a delay in flight. He had an easygoing, strong camoradarie with the players calling them by their nicknames, and when he spoke it seemed weighty words, or a joke. Even when he said I was a villa fan he still treated me with respect. I came away thinking thats a really nice man who gets respected. Thought I'd share with you :-) Im neither for or against appointment just think he deserves the fans to give him some support. Hes won more than Mark Hughes, Martinez.

Hope Its true though! He has a good club record and could improve us.

It is in the -Sunday Mirror Ok Nevermind then

any links please?

Tried using the veetle stream but cant seem to work it from this works laptop. Dh! Any other links to a live stream not invlolving a download would be most welcome Cheers Stu

Veetle. PLEASE someone post a link to any stream Ive been trying to find one for ages. Cheers