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I try to keep an even head but what an awful performance. The diving headfirst into waist high 50/50 balls was absolutely moronic. Before we fell apart I noticed he was wearing the captain's armband and couldn't believe my eyes. Have we not learned anything from last season. Lescott, Richards, Gabby, and Bacuna need to be shown the door immediately.

2 hours ago, bobzy said:

Made the most tackles and had the most shots of anyone on our team - "does nothing".

Standard Westwood bashing for the hell of it.

Haters gonna hate. 

The circlejerk hate is real.

Just another friendly update for those that flipped out over the loss to Boro. WBA lost to Torquay United 2-1.

2 minutes ago, jim said:

I don't think there is much of what Holloway said I could disagree with TBH.

The squad is a joke right now. All I'm hearing right now from the good Dr is a lot of talk and not much action.

That's a textbook doom and gloom response that has completely infested this board. Some of it has been warranted in the past but let's give the club a clean slate, yeah?

Fair play to Tony for calling Holloway out on his BS. He may have went a little over the top with his word choice but I'm sick of watching pundits take the piss whenever they get a chance. I'm not entirely convinced we make out of this division but anything outside of top 10 would be absolutely shocking when you look at some of the teams in the bottom half.

3 hours ago, Supervillan78 said:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-see-luis-alberto-transfer-11687638

Liverpool see Luis Alberto transfer to Sevilla fall through - but Championship clubs pursue Spaniard

 

Sevilla were the favourites to re-sign the player they sold to Liverpool for £6.8million three years ago

Liverpool midfielder Luis Alberto is being pursued by a number of Championship clubs after a proposed return to Sevilla fell through.

The Reds want £6million for the Spaniard, who doesn't feature in Jurgen Klopp's plans for this season.

Sevilla were the favourites to re-sign the player they sold to Liverpool for £6.8million three years ago.

However, the Europa League holders were unwilling to meet the asking price and that deal is now off.

Alberto looks likely to remain in England with Wolves and QPR among those clubs keen to secure his services. Aston Villa have also expressed an interest in the 23-year-old.

The £6millon package Liverpool want includes appearance related add-ons.

Alberto, who last played for the Reds in the 4-0 rout of Everton in January 2014, spent last season on loan at Deportivo La Coruna. He scored six goals and provided seven assists in 29 appearances in La Liga.

He returned to Melwood for the start of pre-season but failed to impress and Klopp left him out of the squad for the tour of America.

Uh... yes please.

I read some news this morning but can't remember the source that WHU put forth a bid for Andre Ayew. Probably another case of awful journalism hearing the name Ayew and automatically spamming the web with Jordan as the primary target.

1 minute ago, TrentVilla said:

No, pre-season results matter very little.

What does matter is when you see the same issues in a side heading into a season as resulted in you being relegated the season before.

Agreed and I said as much in the promotion thread on Boro's 2nd goal. But I still feel as though at least 3 or 4 players that started today won't be starting the majority of our league fixtures this season. I'm concerned like everyone else but I think it's too early to get extremely worked up over the game today.

Palace lost 3-1 to Fulham today after going unbeaten in all other preseason fixtures. Preseason matters very little.

Didn't get to catch the game today but some thoughts based on the lineup. I'm not in complete meltdown mode because I think we still have a good bit of business left to do in the transfer market. With that said, I am about to lose it if I see another team sheet showing Gestede and Bacuna in the starting lineup. We also have to keep in mind that at some point Cissokho is going to make way for Amavi. The problem with Cissokho and Hutton is they can't be on the field at the same time. Both are serviceable when called upon but their deficiencies coupled together can be a disaster. I don't mind Hutton starting the season at RB. Gestede has to make way for a striker that can actually play with the ball at his feet. Bacuna is wank on and off the field and I think all of us will rejoice when he never puts on a Villa shirt ever again. I'm not sold on Baker starting with Elphick but am willing to take a wait and see approach on that front. He has had his fair share of decent games for us and I think he did pretty well on loan with Bristol City. Everyone flipping out needs to take a breather though and realize that Boro bossed the league last year and they have brought in some pretty good reinforcements for the upcoming PL season.

EDIT: Just saw the highlights and my word Baker. Boro's second goal where he gives it away and just starts sprinting out of position towards the player that made the interception is giving me nightmare flashbacks of Richards at CB. The other two goals seemed to materialize from the left side of defense so my point still stands that Amavi in for Cissokho will make a world of difference.

Rumors of PNE defender Greg Cunningham on tweeter. Don't know much about him but says he's a LB. Seems an odd signing with Cissoko, Amavi, and Toner on the books.

11 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

TFS Sheff Wednesday ‏@TFS_SheffWed  8m8 minutes ago

BREAKING: Aston Villa are preparing a £13m double swoop for #swfc duo Barry Bannan and Fernando Forestieri #avfc… http://dlvr.it/LjGwcm 

 

 

 

hahahaha... can you imagine???

Definitely would like the idea of Forestieri.

I've never got the impression that Clark was part of the problem as far as commitment and fight. I hope we keep him and I think he could do very well for us down a peg.

12 minutes ago, Mantis said:

Maybe, although by all accounts the football board were keen on Pearson weren't they?

Maybe Moyes expressed his interest in managing the club and the board splintered over the decision. So many things to speculate at this moment.

3 minutes ago, Pilchard said:

I actually missed the bit about 'extensive sale discussions' on the OS first time around. 

It sounds like Bernstein & King wanted to appoint a manager, go ahead with making the changes necessary and that Hollis has put a block on it due to these sale talks - ie. Don't want to appoint a manager these new people won't want. B&K have said 'Sod ya' and walked.

If this is the scenario though - why would the resignation letters be leaked? Why are they aggressive, and pissed off in the tone? Perhaps they weren't aware of these sale talks? Perhaps they have been invented so that fans don't go quite as ape-shit as they might otherwise. The second is a ridiculous theory, but I struggle to reason for the tone of the letters, and the way it's been leaked. But why then say the search for a new manager is also a priority still? None of this makes any sense at all.

This is the first time I can remember them every mentioning that talks were on-going with a party re: a sale. Which suggests either it is close, or they feel they need to release it as they are worried about the crap they are about to get.

You know, I wasn't too bothered about relegation on Saturday. It was coming, we deserved it, and we're currently a pathetic football club. But this - this has upset me. B&K had made incisive, good decisions and were pushing us forward. I was quite optimistic to be honest. Now? We're going straight down to League One at the moment. The club is spiralling out of control. With an owner who doesn't care, without a CEO, board, or manager. 

Still at least we've got Paddy Reilly, eh?

At the risk of repeating myself, I think anyone buying a season ticket next year is approving of Randy Lerner's ownership and seriously needs to question themselves.

 

 

 

One can only hope this is the reasoning. Otherwise, it all sounds like a trainwreck and we're in for more suffering.

A couple of thoughts... Maybe the board wasn't happy with the manager appointment and resigned over the choice. Pearson was chosen and Bernstein and King aren't on board with that. Another thought... Bernstein and King aren't happy with the potential direction of the club if a sale is to go through. Either way there's little that can be positively spun out of this news.

Zach Clough and Jonathan Kodjia as well as Nahki Wells would be on my shortlist.

Daily Fail mentioning he's set for move to Marseille.

Express saying he could move to Milan at the end of the season.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/651071/Italian-giants-Milan-Aston-Villa-exodus-snubbing-deal

1 hour ago, briny_ear said:

Oh Lordy.

You said his points to game ratio "isn't far off the ratio required to  stay up over the course of a full season".  I was just pointing out that it IS far off the required ratio, based on premier league history so far. 0.8 points x 38 = 30.4 points = nowhere near enough in all but one season, or being very generous, in all but 5 seasons in premier league history since the league reduced to 20 clubs.

I was just commenting on that claim; I wasn't making any comment about staying up this season, because we won't unless a miracle happens, so it's not worth discussing.

I don't care what would have happened IF some games had turned out differently. If we had scored 7 against Liverpool, we would be sitting pretty. If we hadn't conceded 3 against Leicester, we would be even better off. So what?

As I have had cause to mention before when responding to your posts, as far as I am concerned, this correspondence is now closed. There is no point in flogging a dead horse

Regardless, 0.8 points per game is likely an achievement in and of itself with 90% of the squad sleepwalking through this season.

This one really cuts deep.

To those wondering about catching matches in the US. BeIn Sports has the rights to the championship and I want to say their broadcast schedule is based on what match is being aired in the UK. You would think a lot of ours would be picked for broadcast. Unless you want to pay over $100 for a full cable/satellite package you can get the Sling International package which is $10 per month and has BeIn and BeIn Espanol. I would not go with FuboTv unless you have a top notch connection I subscribed for about a month before I was ready to pull my hair out. Also, Sling International lets you go back 7 days on programming so no need to remember to DVR a match just scroll back through the week. It's a pretty great service I just pray we get priority for broadcasts. 

4 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

5 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

The knuckledraggers manager seems adept in getting results from a squad full of shit. I'd have him before Jackett (and most others)

The knuckledraggers manager seems adept in getting results from a squad full of shit. I'd have him before Jackett (and most others)

Great shout. Didn't give that one much thought at first.

Just now, rjw63 said:

Muhahahahahahaaaa!

Do you live in the Midlands? Or listen to local radio? Wolves fans think he's crap!

I do not and admit to some ignorance on who the next best candidate would be for us. Just giving a shout that if Remi walks a manager that has some skin in the game is needed to fix the rot that is deep inside this club at the moment.

I'm not blaming relegation on Ayew but his elbow and the ensuing 70 minutes was the final nail in the coffin for me. I won't lose an inkling of sleep if 95% of the first team were cleared out at season's end. The entire operation needs to be gutted. As for Remi I'm pretty ambivalent as a part of me believes if a mass exodus happens he likely could string together a pretty good squad but that could just as easily blow up in our faces like it always does. We've scoffed at the experienced managers lately but look at Alex Neil, Eddie Howe, and Sean Dyche. All of them are well versed in English football and have stabilized their respective clubs. If Remi does leave for whatever reason we need to hand the reigns over to someone who has some skin in the game besides personal pride and ambition. Maybe someone like Kenny Jackett would be a good shout.