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11 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

With an aging population bringing net migration down is a monumentally dumb idea. I can only conclude that this party are the true economic illiterates and not Labour. 

2 hours ago, Chindie said:

Tories with enormous, insurmountable lead is the other way to look at it.

Just imagine this conversation,

so Mr XXXX how did you wind up voting conservative,

well i blame UKIP, i didn't realise at the time how it was just a gateway party, I thought 'Where could be the harm to just trying voting for it once' and I would be OK, I told myself I'd remain in control, I don't know how It happened,but my voting for words removed is something i just instantly do when they mention cutting immigration or taking back control, I know the consequences will probably be bad for me and people like me, but I just can't seem to concentrate or see the nasty effects.I'll unleash.

5 minutes ago, snowychap said:

Also, 'net migration down to the tens of thousands'.

just checked the date, wasn't sure if  i'd inadvertantly stepped through a time vortex and appeared in 2010 or 2015,

wonder if people will swallow this crap like they did last times they wheeled it out ?

1 minute ago, Wainy316 said:

Only hearing snippets but this launch is sounding like a disaster.

complaincency that the tame media will spin it for them possibly?

15 minutes ago, snowychap said:

I think Duncan Smith has just let the cat out of the bag about the kind of thinking behind this intended change in home care funding.

He effectively suggested that people need to look at insuring themselves against the need for home social care (there are plenty of products out there that people could look at throughout their life blah blah - this may not be verbatim). Not sure how that helps anyone already in the boat but it's looks quite clear that the Tories are not missing this opportunity to push (maybe not blatantly) the idea of private health insurance as a solution.

The Tory party have been hinting at compulsory insurance for many things for quite a while, it's worth researching umin insurance and the part it has played in the destruction of the benefits system, 

But never mind insurance companies are cuddly teddy bears who only have your best interests at heart,

19 minutes ago, snowychap said:

As you say, though, it's just a means to slow down the process of appeal and put people off.

well like so many Tory party policies, it proposes to do one thing on the surface and does something completely at odds (and it's usually nasty) with the headline propaganda in reality

they do it too consistently to be coincidence, never been a coincidence theorist.

8 minutes ago, Chindie said:

Tories with enormous, insurmountable lead is the other way to look at it.

so a lead of 13%, pretty huge and difficult to overcome, can anyone remind me what was it a couple of weeks ago?

1 hour ago, PauloBarnesi said:

With so much passion on here, how many people belong to a political party, or even more importantly stood for public office?

I wouldn’t vote for Corbyn in a month of Sundays, but I would happily cast my vote for Darren.

of course you wouldn't or actually couldn't, we usually vote on Thursdays and never on a Sunday.

1 minute ago, snowychap said:

A very important point. Mandatory reconsideration is an absolute shocker.

Well it wouldn't be a shocker if it wasn't just a sham and a way to deter people from getting justice, if it was genuinely fair and not a typical Tory smoke and mirrors con

4 minutes ago, Wainy316 said:

Spot on!  Not only is it a matter of good versus bad, it's a complete no brainer.

I haven't seen a remotely coherent argument from a Tory supporter yet, just the repeated mantra of 'Terrorist sympathiser', 'who's doing the sums, Diane Abbott' yada yada.

To be fair to them, they are only repeating the total sum of official Tory party election strategy.

How can you expect their supporters to have a coherent reason to vote for them, when the Tory Party doesnt have one

10 hours ago, PompeyVillan said:

Ooosh and policies for the elderly to pay for their own care from their estate. 

Another prediction to tick off the list i made in 2010, watch out for the expansion of this idea over the next Tory governed parliament, If you're not part of the 1% they will eventually come after any wealth you've accumulated

his coached hand guestures seem delayed, like he keeps remembering at the last second or just after they should be done that he is supposed to be doing them.

studies have confirmed that the BBC is neither biased to the left or right, they are biased to whoever is in government, a cynic might suggest its to do with who holds the reigns to the gravy train.

I think it could be fake though, it's far too well thought out to be a Tory manifesto

5 minutes ago, dAVe80 said:

Shame it wasn't Kunessburg!

a foot injury could have resulted in serious brain damage if it was,

conservative party political broadcast leaked

25 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said:

Also it's up to someone in the media to ask, when picked, why Theresa May is censoring the questions being put to her.

well there has never been a shortage of people willing to sell their fellow man short for a few pieces of silver or some other perceived advantage

5 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

Yup I don't like it either and I think it's pretty poor form, though, I do understand why she is.

As amole said, the media should be tearing her apart for it.

almost as if there is an agenda that needs someone like may and the Tories in charge that the those controlling said media support, 

but i'm sure its just a coincidence

18 hours ago, MakemineVanilla said:

But history teaches us that it is governments which create crises, when they interfere with banks and then the banks get the blame.

 

most history is just the story from a particular view point. and one things banks excel at is having excellent propaganda. I would say 99.9% of the population don't even know what the real business of most banks is. believing some fairly tale provided by the banks.

3 hours ago, Xela said:

I've gone passed that point. I just don't care anymore.

wouldnt be surprised if it's probably part of their strategy

28 minutes ago, blandy said:

They are an absolute shower of words removed. Lying deceptive, odious, vile, noxious, clearings in the woods.

I think that's an overly kind and gentle description of them

conspiracy theorists are right churning over and forming the idea that of how she is a sleeper plant in the labour party waiting to till called on to provide a means to look a weak and wobbly conservative leader look relatively genuine and competent especially at the times like that of a general election,

I can you imagine the opening negotiations

, Ms robotnic, "well what we need is a strong and stable agreement that can only be provided by a strong and stable negotiator like myself who is both strong and stable, and not a coalition of chaos offered by a chaotic coalition of chaos that is the EU which would result in chaotic coalition like agreement.