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1 minute ago, Demitri_C said:

How do you the DUP have so many seats over there if they are this bad? 

You might say the same about SF. But most people on the British mainland don’t realise what is going on in NI.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08tb9ct Interesting programme on Arlene Foster. 

1 hour ago, magnkarl said:

Did someone see that debate on BBC where Wee Crankie got shredded by the nurse? A day later SNP front benchers claimed that the nurse was married to a conservative MP, which has been totally ridiculed today in Scotland. Both the Conservatives and SNP are falling to bits - if there's anywhere Corbyn should do well it's Scotland. They're tired of Nicola's even worse handling of the NHS against the Conservatives in England.

Go to Glasgow, Inverness and Aberdeen Corbyn, those seats are ripe for the taking - worry less about South England - down here people are far too set in their mind.

On that note, Ruth Davidson seems a likely Conservative leader. She's coherent, a good debater and really well put together.

To elaborate, the nurse called out the SNP for dumping the NHS in Scotland into a hole. SNP MP's went on the attack on twitter and claimed she was lying and married to a conservative counselor. Nationalists are bad, no matter their creed or colour. SNP have now had to grovel and apologise as their followers posted personal information about the lady, her address, her dog's name etc.

 

SNP ruining education north of the border. Whatever colour of your politics, you need strong opposition. One party rule is terrible.

Not sure thats the impression I got; more that it was the beginning of alot of trouble and we need to share the blame.

Its North of the Border where we need to see real traction... But to be honest I am taking all the polls with a little pinch of salt. Lib Dems romp home with a massive majority....

38 minutes ago, darrenm said:

Absolutely agree. But doesn't being on the back benches fighting for the underdog who others wouldn't your whole life make you a great choice for PM?

Its a completely different game; I think being a decent MP for your constituents and fighting causes won’t prepare you for being a PM. I personally think that working your way through the party ranks, maybe even being both a minor minister and a shadow minister will give you sense of how to eventually become a major minister let alone PM. Inexperience in government sounds appealing; you won’t be corrupted by power, etc. On the other hand what experience do you have? 

Of course the same goes for Tim Farron. But Farron has time on his hands. At only 47 you would hope he would have more energy than May, and alot more than Jeremy. 

All of this is rather like any office or business. Some people are brilliant at some jobs, put them in management and they are shocking and vice versa. 

Not one to watch, one to listen to. Jeremy Bowen on the middle east

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08q4cls

Whatever is happening now there, and across the world, we have to take some of the blame for starting it after WWI

4 hours ago, DK82 said:

Here is a 'memory' for you to use in future.

My point is that Corbyn has done things that some people won’t forgive; just like the Tories. 

As many people won’t counterance the Tories; people who would counternance Labour, will refuse because of things like the Sinn Féin/IRA connection or the whole anti-semitism issue with Livingstone, etc

These aren’t things the press invented; they are merely playing the stories to their congreation.

Lots of people feel that what Corbyn did to support SF was part of the peace process and people should move on. Others won’t; they feel he was far too sympathetic. 

Corbyn will win support from some; others will never vote for him. Not because he doesn’t have some decent policies, but because of some of his other policies.

1 minute ago, meregreen said:

I have memories, it's why I will never vote Tory.

Of course. But if opinion polls are to be believed May or Farron suffer less than Corbyn does on what their past is. 

Politicians shouldn’t be whiter than white, but the nearer you get to the top, the cleaner people want it to be. When Corbyn was a back bencher he could afford to support various causes, when you get to be leader and possibly prime minister it becomes harder and harder.

Just now, Wainy316 said:

Corbyn started with a mountain to climb due to the smear campaign from the right wing press and from within his own party.

Half of the mountain was self created. How ever much the press (right wing) creates trouble, Corbyn can’t wish away his (or John McConnell’s) past. People have memories.

8 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

If Labour had practically anyone instead of Corbyn I think they would have won this election. may is so dislikeable its unreal. Complete and utter arrogance of the woman to be so blatant with some despicable policies like the dementia tax 

The problem Labour has its collapse north of the border, which means that they have to do brilliantly south of the border. If the UKIP vote collapses in England, you would expect it to go Tory, so its a really hard one. If the Lib Dem vote goes up (which you never if it will), its another spanner in the works (depends I guess who they take).

If only Ed hadn’t been ambitious, you could see David winning this one. 

11 hours ago, DK82 said:

It's funny that this is literally the only thing people use on Labour this May. But I guess Tories won't have a brain fart because they don't have sums and costings to remember.

Honestly its not.

So many things wrong with all of them.*

* sometimes its the loss of humour...

7 hours ago, NurembergVillan said:

Stuff like this has been going on for ever; people seem shocked that political parties are up to media manipulation.

Mind you according to Diane Abbott thats probably at least 100000 people....

11 hours ago, TrentVilla said:

 

I'm starting to think Corbyn doesn't actually think he can win this election.

What is the point in him campaigning in Birmingham, what exactly is that going to achieve.

Corbyn (or his cronies) don’t seem to like reaching out to people who won’t be his supporters. But thats always been his problem. 

He should literally have been in Scotland 24/7 for the last year. But as said previously he’s a little work shy.

Mind you after recent voting maybe Birmingham and the West Midlands are turning back to what they were in Chamberlain jnr’s day....

3 hours ago, blandy said:

They did really well every time they were bold, or almost every time they were bold.

I always think getting involved in miltary action is bold. I guess this was the massive exception. Mind you selling the gold was bold, and that turned out to be a disaster.

Great headline

Luke Moore lived a little more to the hype, but another striker with a low conversion rate.

Nathan “The great hope” Delfouenso scored for Blackpool last night in the Div II playoffs. For a striker (he’s still only 26), he hasn’t scored many goals 21 in 204 appearances. From what I saw at youth level I would have thought he would be banging them in at League II level on a regularly basis. 

16 minutes ago, TrentVilla said:

 

As for Corbyn and Labour, I think he should have appeared. It would have given him a platform to attack the Tory manifesto and get some real, unedited air time to do it. There are constant complaints about his coverage or lack of and yet he turns down an opportunity like this.

From what was being reported earlier this year*, Jeremy likes to make sure he has time in the week to relax (make jam, spend some time in the shed, facebook with DA, look at coal plates, drain covers, etc). So probably he’s been on TV on Saturday/Sunday, so took Thursday evening off

* In Private Eye, so it must be correct....

I suspect that Corbyn feared being piggy in the middle between May and Sturgeon. Unless Labour win big in Scotland its hard to see how they can win, and as far as I can see they haven’t got much traction there, and if anything the Tories, Lib/Dems are doing better north of the border. I suspect that the amount of uncomfortable skeletons in Corbyn’s cupboard mean he’s also fearful of being ambushed

8 hours ago, darrenm said:

 I bet I'm losing friends by the day on Facebook but what would it say about me if I let injustice slide where I see it?

You still have me as long as you post about your sporting achievements from time to time. 

3 hours ago, maqroll said:

The Washington Post has Ryan on tape last year admitting that the Russians were paying Trump. I can't wait for everything to come out, the whole lot of them should be behind bars.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transcript-6pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c1d65fbd2ca7

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A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

With so much passion on here, how many people belong to a political party, or even more importantly stood for public office?

I wouldn’t vote for Corbyn in a month of Sundays, but I would happily cast my vote for Darren.

12 hours ago, darrenm said:

And yet no-one who dislikes him quite knows why*.. is it because it's people who are incapable of independent thought so just cling to what they think is en vogue? Like Dave in the pub? People like that tend to change their mind pretty quickly when they see others changing.

*Present company excepted

I don’t necessarily think people ‘dislike’ him; I think the majority of people don’t think he’s up to the job. If you can’t unite your own party, could you unite the country and rule the country?

Personally I think Dave Nellist would have been a better leader than Corbyn. But he’s no longer an MP.

2 hours ago, choffer said:

Speaking of farce, have you seen their Party Politics Broadcast? I was genuinely lost for words when I saw it yesterday.

UKIP very much not using a British typeface.