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Proves how much Lambert doesn't rate technical players.

I'd say he does rate them, he just can't afford them. your not going to get Santi Cazorla (or anything other technically gifted player) for £4m on £10K a week.

Michu to Swansea - £2 Million

Arteta to Everton- £2 Million

Kagawa to Dortmund - €350,000

Just to name a few.

All came into the respective sides making an immediate impact, think it's becoming too easy to blame everything on a lack of funds, there obviously are players out there that lambert can afford.

I don't think naming 3 examples over the past 9 years is really evidence to be honest.

I don't necessarily disagree with your point, just saying those are exceptions really.

Yes I chose three exceptional examples and there are many more, point wouldn't have been as effective using players such as Andy Reid, Wes Hoolahan etc. So if they were purchased for such cheap amounts and were such great players it isn't too great a leap to assume there would be technically gifted players worldwide (I would have taken Benayoun at the start of the season on a free for sure) that could improve us for a price lambert could afford.

Anyway back to Albrighton, looked great against West Ham and put in some great crosses. Gives Lambert a bit of a headache I think as to how to fit him into the team, be interesting to see if he starts against Cardiff.

Proves how much Lambert doesn't rate technical players.

 

I'd say he does rate them, he just can't afford them. your not going to get Santi Cazorla (or anything other technically gifted player) for £4m on £10K a week.

Michu to Swansea - £2 Million

Arteta to Everton- £2 Million

Kagawa to Dortmund - €350,000

Just to name a few.

All came into the respective sides making an immediate impact, think it's becoming too easy to blame everything on a lack of funds, there obviously are players out there that lambert can afford.

What a crazy situation. Taking off an injured LB for another LB. Lambert out!

He should of taken off Bertrand at half-time if he was suffering with a rib injury and replaced him with Bennett then. He was skinned left, right and centre for the first West Ham goal, Downing of all people looked like he was on a par with Julian Draxler.

He always seems to play well against the villa.

Lambert is out of his depth here. It is time to move him on.

 

I agree I don't think he's quite ready for the premier league, I think he'll get better as time goes on just got to hope we don't get relegated in the mean time.

Clueless he really is, has no idea how to play against a side who isn't going to attack and give us space on the counter. Our record against sides around and under us in the league must be absolutely shocking?

Why can't we play like this from the start, we know West Ham are going to sit back.

Exactly it's beyond frustrating, we always play better after conceding

Ignore wrong thread

Albrightons changed the game

Don't worry lads Holts on

Rapidly losing patience with lambert and at first I was a big fan, he seems completely clueless of how to play against sides around and under our level, looks like we set-up for every game looking for a nil nil yet when we do concede we look infinitely more threatening when the side go for it, it makes zero sense to me why not just start like this?

Why can't we play like this before we concede? Every **** game this team needs a boot up the arse.

We look like headless chickens

The fans allowed to boo yet?

Every time Downing has played against us he seems to tear us apart, same he was shite for us.

 

 

 

 

The worst home form in the league and we're moaning at the fans?

Doesn't seem right somehow.

Exactly, the moaning and the level of expectation is not the end product of a particular scoreline in a particular match it is a cumulative effect of nearly four seasons of playing boring football and not winning many games at home.

When people have been subjected to an inferior product over

a sustained period of time is it any wonder that they are not full of the joys of spring and they have a sense of 'de ja vu' every time we go a goal down?

The fans are not to blame (as much as some on here seem to suggest) for the negative and insipid atmosphere at Villa Park it is the absent owner, a succession of inept managers, the low quality players used, the utterly boring style of football and a continuous supply of poor home results.

 

The worst home form in the league and we're moaning at the fans?

Doesn't seem right somehow.

Exactly, the moaning and the level of expectation is not the end product of a particular scoreline in a particular match it is a cumulative effect of nearly four seasons of playing boring football and not winning many games at home.

When people have been subjected to an inferior product over a sustained period of time is it any wonder that they are not full of the joys of spring and they have a sense of 'de ja vu' every time we go a goal down?

The fans are not to blame (as much as some on here seem to suggest) for the negative and insipid atmosphere at Villa Park it is the absent owner, a succession of inept managers, the low quality players used, the utterly boring style of football and a continuous supply of poor home results.

Why are the fans so good away then? Same owner same players same manager and we do get better results!

Well its quite obvious. We have 3 or 4 thousand away fans compared to 34,000 home fans. The smaller amount who give up more time and more money to follow away are likely to be the more vocal supportive ones.

That makes total sense!! Don't the away fans go to home games? It's about attitude when going to the game nothing more nothing less.

 

 

Surely you can't be serious? Have you ever been to an away game?

 

Away fans are always more vocal and passionate than than the teams home support. It's usually the more hardcore fans that go, many see it as a day out and alcohol is usually heavily involved, of course they are more vocal than the home support.

 

Every away game i've ever been too every villa fan has been standing, which adds to the atmosphere, being the away side vastly outnumbered it feels like your there to spoil the party and is a completely incomparable atmosphere to being at home. Just look at Man United, probably the worst fans i've ever seen when I went to Old Trafford away, no noise even at 3 nil up, yet seeing them at villa park, me sitting in the north stand, they were one of the loudest away fans i've seen.

Yep because human beings are known to be cool calculated figures in emotional situations. How people are moaning at the fans is beyond me, the fans aren't the ones being paid multimillion pound contracts it's the players responsibility to perform. If nearly every home performance wasn't utter turd then maybe there would be a lot more patience but that's not the case and frustrations are completely understandable.

Away support is always more vocal and passionate than the home support, just look at man united...

To be honest how poor our home performances have been I don't blame the fans at all for shouting out in anger/frustration, its only human.

Dear god.

Pop in other football for the first time to see what's happening and there's a 456 page thread on Barry Bannan, time to slowly back away.

So no one can give a decent reason on why Lambert has impressed them and shouldn't be lambasted?

Does it have to be one or the other? I think he's done enough to stay and continue with what he's doing, at least you can see there's a plan and a future. Haven't had that feeling for a while with managers, most seemed to buy for the now with not much attention paid to the future and that's what got us in the trouble with the wages having an ageing average squad on big wages.

Us being 10th is the definition of a false position.

 

Our wins against Man City and Southampton were two of the luckiest Villa wins I've ever seen. I literally have no idea how we got 1 point out of each of those games, let alone 3. Without those wins we would be in deep trouble.

 

Bollocks, by that logic were unfortunate to not be further up the table because we should have beaten Liverpool and Chelsea away but only got the 1 point.

Chelsea I agree with but not Liverpool. They were well on top after we went 2-0 up.

I'm not convinced by all this chat about crap signings and crap tactics etc. We are 10th on a shoestring. That's not by accident and the man knows more about the game than any of us. Event if we don't see it he seems to know what he's doing and the proof is on the PL table.

Opening myself up to abuse here but In my opinion due to the way we've played I think there's a very good argument we are there by accident, plenty of games where we were lucky to get the win.

Personally I wouldn't take Laurdrup here. I don't think our players, especially the midfielders are technically good enough to play that style. Just don't agree with some of the posts playing down what he's done at Swansea.

You all do know that the ginger one also won a league cup?

It's not a good argument

That is just an example of what he's accomplished not the be all and end all, almost every accomplishment in football could be dismissed in a similar way.

I would take Laudrup for Lambert any day

Why?

Because he plays pretty football that doesn't get results

Doesn't get results?

Won a cup, 12th in the table, only three points less than us, and is still Europe. Who'd want that.