VillaChris

Spurs have a massive say in this.

They're playing terribly and losing to QPR and after that have Blackburn at home and us and Bolton away.

All I'd say is as long as we don't lose to Bolton (I've given up ever expecting to win a game again under McLeish) Bolton will need to gain 7 more points than us in the remaining games. I think that's too much of an ask with what 4 games left?

Love how Fergie says both were penalties.

Remember when last season Zhirkov fell over Smalling in an almost indentical incident to Young and he went mad about it for weeks and got a 5 match ban for it.

Enjoy your dirty, grubby, tainted winnings should we be relegated you ingrates.

I will still be as depressed as those that didn't bet just that I will have more money to spend on beer than they will and it will be courtesy of William Hill.

Shite firm to put the bet on at, Paddy Power are always the most generous with the odds, must have us at about 1000-1 to be relegated.

Heads up....

QPR are 14/5 to beat Spurs tommorrow at Paddy Power. Already had a couple of quid on that so for people who think QPR will finish above us, I'd suggest you follow suit.

Heads up....

QPR are 14/5 to beat Spurs tommorrow at Paddy Power. Already had a couple of quid on that so for people who think QPR will finish above us, I'd suggest you follow suit.

I'm a big Gabby fan and he was very good in the 1st half of the season but he's been a real disappointment to me since xmas, has not stepped up in Bent's absence at all.

I still don't think we should sell him though.

Is this the same Carlos Cuellar who's constantly played out of position for most of his villa career to help the team?

I'd give it to Carlos.

Pretty ridiculous when he's played what 15 games for us this season but he's been pretty good in most of them he's played including remember at left back against Man. City.

It would also be a bit of a fingers up at the club that our POTY would be leaving on a free at the end of the season....

If we get 3 0-0 draws we should be OK.

We've only kept 3 clean sheets since Boxing Day, inclusive. So I doubt we can keep another 3 over the next month. There's no way we can afford not to go all out to score in every game.

Three 1-1s then.

We have drawn 2 of our last 3 games 1-1 after all. :winkold:

Hopefully Spurs will wake up, they can't finish in the top 4 if they lose to QPR.

If we don't lose to Bolton they will need 7 more points than us in the remaining games (and that's factoring in us losing all the other games).

As long as QPR don't beat Spurs we will be o.k, if they don't they'll get 4 points from the Spurs and Stoke home games which will take them to 35 points. I can't for the life of me see how they'll beat Chelsea at Stamford Birdge who will still be in the mix for 4th and on the last day at Man. City who could still be in the mix for the title.

How many points were we ahead of Wigan after drawing 0-0 at the JJB? It's go to be 10 or 11 surely?

Ridiculous reversal in such a short space of time, hang your head McLeish.

Wigan are out of the relegation equation now, on 34 and have Wolves at home on the last day, fair play to 'em. They were nearly as dire as us when we pla them 6 weeks back.

If and it's a big if, Wigan manage to hold on and win tonight then the yank should be straight on the blower to McC**t and ask him how, in the space of a few weeks can tiny Wigan beat Liverpool & Arsenal away and Man United at home yet we are beaten before we get on the pitch, absolutely pathetic.....

Well Randy did approach Wigan before he went after McLeish.

He isn't the finished article as a manager but amuses me last summer how some were trying to promote McLeish as some sort of upgrade on Martinez.

To be fair I'd already assumed Wigan will go above us

It's QPR and Bolton who are our main rivals

Yep, that looks correct the form Wigan are in.

As long as we don't lose to Bolton and QPR don't beat Spurs we will stay up. (Blimey how depressing it is to write these sentences).

N'Zogbia was playing much better before his injury.

He has to start against Sunderland.

Awful awful manager.

I honestly can't believe how bad we've been for 99% for this season.

I knew the football would be poor but I thought he would at least get the horribe basics right like being hard to score against and not giving away cheap goals from set pieces.

He's even failing at those things which are supposed to be his forte.

I tried to give him time but lost my patience after Wigan away which was desperate and apart from the Fulham game, the results and performances have been awful ever since.

See ya later Blackburn.

Bleeding Yakubu ( He's in my Fantasy football team :winkold: )

Woops spoke too soon!

Beating Swansea away won't be easy will it, their last away game was losing 3-0 to West Brom.

They'll get 4 points from Norwich and Wigan so they'll finish on 32 points.

All this 36 point target is us not picking up another point all season again which is pretty unlikely.

Blackburn are already 2 down at home to Liverpool.

Hands up who think they'll reach 36 points?

Thought not.

N'zogbia's best games for us this season have been with Ireland in the team.

Once he gets his fitness up, those two will link up well again I think.

Last season we had Bent, Downing and Young and were awful. This season we haven't had Downing or Young and have been without Bent for a good few games now. Take the three best players out of any team and they'll struggle. Villa are no different. Not all about Eck.

We were nowhere near this bad last season. When we had Bent, Young and Downing together we actually weren't bad. "Eck"'s negative tactics are strangling the life out of the club.

Really?

I'm no fan of McLeish at all and he should be certainly fired in the summer but I think there's a fair bit of rewritting of history going on about last season due to us playing well in the final 6 games (whe Houllier was taken ill).

The home games against Sunderland and Wolves stick in my mind as bad as anything we've produced this season. Sunderland had Downing and Young playing and losing dismally to Wolves, we had Bent, Downing and Young all in the team.

I've been critical of Bannan a lot since the drink drive rap as I don't think he's played that well since the incident. I thought he was o.k yesterday. As others have said, that was a superb ball over the defence for Gabby to run onto.

The crux of this is he certainly isn't a wide player, he has to be centrally.