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Doctor,

I have been on a course of Amoxcillin since Monday. I'm almost over the Bronchitis I had, and close to the end of the course, which I will still finish.

A friend of mine says it is OK to drink while taking Amoxcillin. He usually gets pissed while taking the stuff.

I am considering going out for a couple of pints (only a couple, not a session) as I feel well again. Is this advisable?

What would you do?

33, only with this Bronchitis and the Sarcoidosis I feel about 75.

Couple of pints of Addlestones

Did the same in Croyde this afternoon - then had to cycle the 11 miles home in the dark...

Looking at the team tonight i can not see where the goals are coming from and i ask you WHY THE HELL IS WAYNE ROONEY STILL IN THE TEAM!!!!!

He last scored a goal for England 11 months ago!

He has only score 2 competative goals since 2004!!

I'm tired of Beckham being picked for commercial reasons, I'm tired of Rooney being picked for I don't know what reason, I'm tired of Lampard and Gerrard, I'm tired of foreign managers of meaningless friendlies and pathetic pathetic performances.

I like it when people share my opinion of Rooney. The bloke is gash.

Ask yourselves this: If Rooney was just becoming noticed in the Prem now instead of being over-hyped for the last five years, how many people would pick him for England with his goal scoring record?

England do not need a support striker, we should have support in quality from the wings and midfield. We need a natural goalscorer, and the closest we have got is Michael Owen, who is a crock.

And consider this: Rooney only scored 13 league goals last season with supply from a world class midfield including the best winger in the world. Gabby scored 12 for the Villa. I'm not going to start calling "Gabby for England" though, as I don't care about international football anymore.

For me, it all ended in two stages.

1. Phil (only got in the team off the back of his brother and playing for manure) Neville giving away that penalty against Romania in 2000.

2. David Seaman in 2002. Nigel Martyn was a far better keeper then but what would be the chance of a personnel change in the England side?

We all know, you can't play Gerrard/Lampard in the same team, Rooney is shit, Wayne Bridge is always out of form, Lescott is not a centre half, Upson is not very good, Bullard, Beckham and Heskey are most likely going to be nowhere near the squad come 2010 and Walcott is by no means a finished article.

But what do we know?

I went for "unknown foriegner", although I think it'll be a foriegner that we DO know

I agree, but I also believe it is only until

is ready to do it...

Barry has been a cock but I will not hold it against him. He is, afterall, one of the best central midfielders in this country and would be sorely missed if he left the team.

As a lot of footballers are cocks, I would have to forgive him.

General.

As a fan of 35 years i am truly ashamed by some of the comments aimed at yourself , Randy and martin.

People are letting frustration and hurt over the Barry saga get the better of them .

The work done in the last two years to get the team back into europe and the vast improvement in infrastructure has been awsome.

Please sir keep the faith and keep up the wonderfull work you are all doing .

Just a last point on the plans for villa park , will the be announced some time soon ?

I asked the question some pages ago but it may have got lost in some of the slanderous drivell that has been spouted.

Many thanks sir.

General, this is my first post in this thread.

Obviously I'd like to thank you and the rest of the board for what you have achieved with the club we all love since 2006.

I'd also like to second the sentiments of the above post. It appears some people's frustrations left over from the previous regime are inappropriately making their way into this thread.

I'd like you to know that there are still masses of Villa fans, like myself, that have total faith in the new structure of the club and that we trust you all to do what is right for the progress of the team and the profile of the club.

I'm a life log Villa fan and I feel an amount of pride for my club these days that I have not felt for years.

Regards,

Paul.

I have hardened DDID, however if we see an apology I will accept that

will we, guess it depends on Plop thus MON's comments today, I suspect Barry is ready to do that IF the deal fell down, no one else would want him

It'll take more than just an apology - a lot of hard work and clear evidence of commitment will do it for me. However, the NotW article aside, I can't recall Barry blotting his copybook and generally being a model professional.

After the Berger reconciliation the other season, nothing will surprise me.

SDPH, your right MON has shown if you apologise you ill be brought back in, therefore I think in private Barry has done this, hence possible inclusion tomorrow

he needs now to get the fans onside but the thinking is if MON is prepared to forgive then maybe we should ?

but e need if not an apoloy from Barry some statement of clear intent and commitment if he is to stay

Agreed entirely.

“Liverpool have come back to us and we have responded to their proposal with a letter,’’ said the Villa manager yesterday. “We’re still waiting to hear back from Liverpool after putting that proposal to them.

My bad. I was thinking of the first section of the quote which you did not copy.

So, what was in the letter?

Assuming the girls Uncle is the brother of the girls Mother, i.e. siblings, I don't think the crime of kidnapping should apply. Legally it should but ethically it's for the best.

The mother is waiving her rights to be a parent/guardian. Harsh but tough shit.

Exactly. If the child was returned to the parent and the drug abuse continued, a single call to the Child Welfare could have the child taken into custody - which could also be responsible family.

“Liverpool have come back to us and we have responded to their proposal with a letter,’’ said the Villa manager yesterday. “We’re still waiting to hear back from Liverpool after putting that proposal to them.

“It’s really up to Liverpool. I really don’t know how it’s going to work out at the moment. I’m sure there will be some sort of resolution at some stage or another.”

What we know about the letter is that there was a letter. At no point in that statement does it say "Villa are willing to negotiate" ot that we are offering a "proposal". It says nothing of that nature at all.

See bold.

From where? That's not the quote from above.

You're hard work, aren't you?

Not really. I need a challenge and I'm not getting one.

After a summer of rejected bids, acrimony, beligerence and blatant non-negotiable stance, nobody in their right mind would believe O'Neill's letter to Benitez has opened the door to a deal, especially when you factor in the less-than-enthusiastic response and the continued impasse.

Why does MON need to "open the door to a deal", as you repeatedly put it? Gareth Barry is a contracted Aston Villa player, and for Bin Dippers FC to sign him, they need to match the asking price.

Call it assumed knowledge if you want mate, I call it common sense.

It's not common sense though, is it. For all you know, the letter may have said:

Dear FSW,

Go **** yourself wih a rusty spade. We will not sell our captain.

You are merely speculating and presenting as fact what you neither know nor can support.

I think you need some clarification about my position here because you seem to be arguing with yourself more than you are me. If you are after a challenge, you should look elsewhere because I just want to talk about football, thanks. And if you insist on disrupting reasonable debate with conversational terrorism and scorched earth tactics, then you aren't doing anybody any favours, including yourself. All I offer is my opinion and yes, speculation - I can't help it if you misinterpret that as assumed knowledge, can I? Did you not notice this entire thread, nee forum is based on what you consider to be assumed knowledge? For all anybody knows, Liverpool may not have bid for Barry at all.

Ah, I get it now.

“Liverpool have come back to us and we have responded to their proposal with a letter,’’ said the Villa manager yesterday. “We’re still waiting to hear back from Liverpool after putting that proposal to them.

“It’s really up to Liverpool. I really don’t know how it’s going to work out at the moment. I’m sure there will be some sort of resolution at some stage or another.”

That above contains what we know about the letter. If you choose to interpret that as opening the door to negotiation, that's up to you. I interpret it as exactly what O'Neill says it is - a proposal outlining what he wants to make the deal happen.

What we know about the letter is that there was a letter. At no point in that statement does it say "Villa are willing to negotiate" ot that we are offering a "proposal". It says nothing of that nature at all.

If you consider what the press speculation has told us about that letter then it is that 'O'Neill wants £17m + Finnan'. Do I believe that? No. I am a cynic. For all you or I know, and as I stated earlier, the content of the letter could have been:

Dear FSW,

Go **** yourself wih a rusty spade. We will not sell our captain.

If you assume the reports of previous bids were correct and Benitez has gone cold over £1m, the content of the letter is extremely suspect.

As a life long Villa fan, I remember a situation with Robbie Keane at Wolves. HDE would not pay the £6m asking price and insisted on offering £5.5m. We lost out to Cov, who sold him 12 months later to Inter for £13m.

If you asked my opinion, I would say that as things stand, Liverpool have walked away from the deal because of O'Neill's steadfast refusal to negotiate.

Have Bin Dippers FC walked away from the deal? ITK! ITK!

And once again, you refer to O'Neill's "steadfast refusal to negotiate". Bin Dippers FC know the price but so far have not matched it. Are you suggesting by "negotiating" you are referring to "lowering the asking price"?

And around the carousel we continue...

It's quite simple really....

If I walk into Next and pick up a skirt priced at £17.99 and then take it to till with a tenner in my hand...would I get the skirt??

If I add a £2 coin to the tenner would Next let me walk out the door with it??

Even If I swapped the £2 coin for a £5..would Next let me have it????!!

The only way I get the skirt I want is to add £3 pound coins to the £15....and hey presto I'm out the door with the skirt and 1p change!

I was thinking along very similar lines when I wrote my piece earlier.

Replace Gareth Barry with my car, an Audi A4. I'm not really thinking about moving onto another car until I can get a diesel A6, which will take me to the next level, but the one I have will be OK for a couple of years yet.

I see a diesel A6 sell for about the same value as I get for my car and as I have had a couple of enquiries over the last 12 months, I decide to stick it in the Auto Trader for £1,800. A bloke phones up, sounding like a bit of a cheeky scouse chappie. He comes for a look. While he's there he test drives the car, keys the doors then pours sugar in the petrol tank. He then offers me £1,000.

I want the £1,800 I advertised the car for: it is the asking price. The cheeky scouse chappie then ups the offer to £1,200, then £1,300, before disappearing into the night in a Ford Sierra.

Message to the FSW: Don't touch what you can't afford.

If you asked my opinion, I would say that as things stand, Liverpool have walked away from the deal because of O'Neill's steadfast refusal to negotiate.

Have Bin Dippers FC walked away from the deal? ITK! ITK!

And once again, you refer to O'Neill's "steadfast refusal to negotiate". Bin Dippers FC know the price but so far have not matched it. Are you suggesting by "negotiating" you are referring to "lowering the asking price"?

And around the carousel we continue...

You're hard work, aren't you?

Not really. I need a challenge and I'm not getting one.

After a summer of rejected bids, acrimony, beligerence and blatant non-negotiable stance, nobody in their right mind would believe O'Neill's letter to Benitez has opened the door to a deal, especially when you factor in the less-than-enthusiastic response and the continued impasse.

Why does MON need to "open the door to a deal", as you repeatedly put it? Gareth Barry is a contracted Aston Villa player, and for Bin Dippers FC to sign him, they need to match the asking price.

Call it assumed knowledge if you want mate, I call it common sense.

It's not common sense though, is it. For all you know, the letter may have said:

Dear FSW,

Go **** yourself wih a rusty spade. We will not sell our captain.

You are merely speculating and presenting as fact what you neither know nor can support.

Redman, you keep going on about a refusal to negotiate, but I fail to see any evidence that this is actually the case. I've no doubt that MON has been difficult to deal with throughout all of this (I wonder why?) but to suggest he's sticking his fingers in his ears and going 'la la la la la' is frankly ludicrous.

The latest reports point to MON putting a proposal to Liverpool last week some time. As far as I know, nothing has been heard back from Liverpool since. So who is it here who isn't negotiating?

I think we can consider O'Neill's letter to be more of a ransom note than a starting point for negotiation.

Really? What did it say? That sounds awfully ITK...

Not ITK buddy, just good old-fashioned common sense.

So? What did it say? You can't possibly comment on it unless you know the content, and your posts here displaying assumed knowledge will be duly taken apart.

This is a Villa message board.

Redman, you keep going on about a refusal to negotiate, but I fail to see any evidence that this is actually the case. I've no doubt that MON has been difficult to deal with throughout all of this (I wonder why?) but to suggest he's sticking his fingers in his ears and going 'la la la la la' is frankly ludicrous.

The latest reports point to MON putting a proposal to Liverpool last week some time. As far as I know, nothing has been heard back from Liverpool since. So who is it here who isn't negotiating?

I think we can consider O'Neill's letter to be more of a ransom note than a starting point for negotiation.

Really? What did it say? That sounds awfully ITK...

Then why are you so convinced that you know what he is thinking?

It isn't rocket science, is it? Jesus wept. I'm hardly predicting what he wants for his dinner.

You're putting words in another man's mouth. That is speculation, not discussion.

I could say "Barry is a happy man at Aston Villa who most probably believes he will be captain of the club for the following five seasons. He's also having fish fingers for tea." and it wouldn't carry an ounce more credibility than your bullshit.

"Suffering" was probably a poor choice of word.

But there is no doubt Barry's ambition is being hampered at this moment by his club's unwllingness to negotiate. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that's how it is. Of course, you could argue his ambition is being hampered by Liverpool's failure to meet the valuation but we aren't a million miles apart, are we? You'd struggle to convince me O'Neill's unwllingness to negotiate at all is anything other than a matter of pride and principle after the way the whole episode has played out.

So you're saying we should drop the price. Why should Barry cost less than Mascherano, Hargreaves or Carrick? It is the going rate for a player of that calibre in that position. Do you not understand this?

And you can consider the NOWT interview to be his transfer request.

You and I both know that is bollocks. Please try harder, your clearly appraent lack of applied knowledge is bringing down the level of intellect on the board.

Hold your horses guys.

If you were to ask Gareth Barry who is damaging his career the most, I think his answer would be Martin O'Neill, don't you?

I'm talking from Gareth Barry's point-of-view, not Villa's or Liverpool's.

What the ****? He is contracted to the Villa.

If he don't like that, he can stick a transfer request in. He hasn't.

Okay, I'll type it in bold then.

I'm talking from Gareth Barry's point-of-view, in response to a poster who was also talking from Gareth Barry's point-of-view.

Clear?

Are you Gareth Barry? No? Then why are you so convinced that you know what he is thinking? No amount of shouting on this board is going to convince me that you are more than just another presumtuous ITK, and an ITK for another team at that. This is a Villa board Respect that at least.

As I said, if Barry thought his career was turning to shit faster than it would by hiring Sir Clive Sinclair as his personal trainer, all he has to do is put in a transfer request. He hasn't done that, so he clearly isn't willing to burn all his bridges just yet.

I imagine that Gareth Barry is kicking himself for signing a four year contract that he can't get out of easily. If he had not tried to get himself a transfer to Liverpool, his career would be doing fine - with a team on the up, and breaking into the England side again. Who is doing most damage to Gareth Barry's career? Gareth Barry.

He could be doing a hell of a lot worse than playing for Villa, that's for sure.

But it's difficult to argue that he doesn't know himself what's best for his career.

Now consider what I posted earlier:

Have you not read enough of this site yet to understand MON and Randy's FIVE YEAR PLAN?

Where does selling a player we want to keep fit into that?

Sorry, but you are having delusions of grandeur now. Two years ago Barry was miles away from England and a 'top four' club would have not looked twice at him. MON worked on him and what you see now is a massively improved product. He signed a FOUR year deal in 2006. MON planned the team building and progress with that four year deal in mind.

Are you going to continue to argue blind and specualte wildly or are you willing to join a sensible debate?

Hold your horses guys.

If you were to ask Gareth Barry who is damaging his career the most, I think his answer would be Martin O'Neill, don't you?

I'm talking from Gareth Barry's point-of-view, not Villa's or Liverpool's.

What the ****? He is contracted to the Villa.

If he don't like that, he can stick a transfer request in. He hasn't.

By that logic Benitez should get on the phone to Alex Ferguson and say I've got a couple of players here, Torres and Gerrard, you can have them for 10 mill a piece as I'd like them to win a couple of league titles before they retire.

Excellent point there. Can't wait for Redman's response...

i think the fans got their feelings off their chest - expect humble pie from mr Barry - Rafa, Gerrard and Alex Black have lost him his captaincy and potentially his participation in the world cup - well done you rocket polishers -

It depends on your point-of-view, doesn't it?

If you are talking in terms of Barry's career, you could say O'Neill is denying him the right to play at the highest level of club football and enhance his chances of playing at the world cup.

Are you suggesting again that we should sell any player who is subjected to a derisory bid?

Have you not read enough of this site yet to understand MON and Randy's FIVE YEAR PLAN?

Where does selling a player we want to keep fit into that?

Sorry, but you are having delusions of grandeur now. Two years ago Barry was miles away from England and a 'top four' club would have not looked twice at him. MON worked on him and what you see now is a massively improved product. He signed a FOUR year deal in 2006. MON planned the team building and progress with that four year deal in mind.

The FSW is **** with Villa's planning now and it looks to me like that is what he is also doing to Spuds. Trying to damage the competition by illicit methods.

Sebadoh - Happily Divided (from the recently re-released Bubble & Scrape album)

Guilty on all counts

I've never done, and would never do heroin, crack or meth.

I believe there are two styles of drugs - despite all the different types - recreational and habitual. Recreational: E's, Speed, Coke (to a certain extent). Habitual: Weed, Crack, Heroin and Meth.

Recreational is just that, like going out for a pint. Habitual are the problem drugs.