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Nugent goal (should have been Defoe but great to see the hunger when he nicked it )

"is it too much to say Gerrard has kept "McDonut" in a job"?

Contrary to what Platt says...no Martin it is not.

so are you saying big sam would do better as england Manger than Big Phil ???

are you serious ??

Depends mate as nobody knows how long it would take Big Phil to pick up the language for a start. Personally I think the FA dropped a bollock by not appointing him but there's nothing to say that he would have failed to pick up the English game properly.

he can speak english and Big Phil is only an example

Guus Hiddink was also available, at a price ...

I agree Hiddink or Big Phil would have been a 1000% better than this clown, but there is nothing to say that Big Phil couldn't quite handle the English game (media included and that is what made him pull out in the first place) and tbh there is no way the FA could afford Hiddink now. Crozier was brought in as a financial reconstruction expert (the FA were in dire straights frankly), he stabilised the books and then they made the same mistake again by the fiasco in Wembley and then there's the obscene payments to Sven (which we technically still are employing) .

so are you saying big sam would do better as england Manger than Big Phil ???

are you serious ??

Depends mate as nobody knows how long it would take Big Phil to pick up the language for a start. Personally I think the FA dropped a bollock by not appointing him but there's nothing to say that he would have failed to pick up the English game properly.

Again...England have Gerrard as the only person doing anything. It's blatantly obvious Gerrard is happier in the centre.

Not so sure that changes the McDonut saga however (as somebody is bound to say) as the performance has been shite still albeit from one star man who does the stuff he's doing now week in week out for Liverpool

P.s. are we still shit by the way?

Tell me about it mate, it's funny how the same crowd who were going mad are now cheering every successful pass made.

Yes we are still shit imo, 1 goal does not change anything. We are playing against Andorra ffs

Also...I know we moaned about Sven at most times but looking at his record he never ever gave us a joke performance (friendlies aside). Who would you rather have....this clown or Sven?

A quick question or 2...would you rather have Sir Alex of Manure in charge or this clown now? (never going to happen but interesting to see the reaction if it was to happen)

Assuming MON wasn't Villa manager would you wish for him to be England manager? Seeing as he isn't English?

Gerrard shot on goal again

Not sure the debate over McDonut ends here because of that 1 (yes it's only 1 goal folks), fact is we aren't performing at all and the crowd want him out and so will the media tomorrow most probably. He's on borrowed time and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't already sounded out someone else to take over in a temp role.

I'm sure I just heard David Platt say "at least we have the 3 points". WTF....did I hear correctly? It's only 54mins gone FFS, anything can happen!

goal Gerrard...fitting that the only guy who shows any passion scores.

Big Phil did really well for Portugal - Portugese ???

Not quite the same mate as he natively speaks Portugese.

But I do agree with the points you've made there tho.

I wonder how a Mr Beckham would be feeling this evening...

...smoking a big fat cigar and drinking champagne no doubt

shows how thick the England fans are, Beckham is effing injured ....

nowt to do with this

But Ian, he was NEVER going to pick Beckham anyway. It was the wrong decision to drop the man in the first place.

"One David Beckham" and "Steve McLaren you're a w@nker" the crowd chant

Bye bye McDonut

Surely England aren't so bad they haven't scored in 41 minutes against a pub team??!!!!

Nah mate, it's more like a school 5-a-side.... so many schoolboy errors it's embarassing supporting this shower of shite at the moment. I've been reading up on the McDonut run (mainly in The Sun newspaper but what the hell...) and he's had the worse run of games EVER in England managers history. All I would say to him is don't let the door hit ur ass on the way out.

Crowd really gunning for his head now, David Platt stating the obvious too.

You've gotta love the comments before the game on Sky by Ray Wilkins, he actually thought it would be a "goal fest" and can see it being 5-0 lol

What another shit game, I can see it finishing 0-0 again

The only player looking like he's playing with a shred of passion is Gerrard at the moment. Rooney has been nowhere again and oh man aren't we missing a one David Beckham an awful lot.

and the crowd chant "Steve Mclaren, you're a "word removed" ;)"

If we don't score soon his days are numbered...we've looked shocking again so far tonight

Notice they have put allthe England fans opposite the camera's to make it look sort of full

Yep, except when the camera behind their goalkeeper when he takes a free kick makes the ground look empty lol

Richards, Cashley Cole and Downing in.

Only 14,000 people in the crowd too

Jamie Redknapp annoyingly talking sense again

Come on Andorra (pains me to say that) but if it's what is needed to get rid of McDonut then so be it. Barwick at the FA is the biggest incompetent fool I've seen for a long time (it was this muppet who took the premiership rights to ITV, ensuring we lost out on Match of the Day and then decided to show it at 7.30pm). How the hell he became the boss of English footie is beyond me. Even bloody Adam Crozier was better and he's Scottish!

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On your last point, I mentioned earlier in the thread but I have been led to believe that Virgin and Setanta are potentially going to launch a new sports channel to rival SSN.

Could potentially be very good but tbh I can't see it being half as good as SSN