pete165

if it makes you feel better, start supporting City. That's the easy solution.

I can understand people are gutted and expectations were high, especially when we were leading early on. BUT: -City are an excellent team and they were always going to dominate at home -We've been unfortunate with the shot off the bar, downing wide, etc. -It's only half-time -Warnock made an error - that doesn't mean he's 'shit' or 'useless' or 'can't defend'. It means he made a MISTAKE. You know what's most depressing today? Not the result, not MON, not the team, who are trying their best - but the absolutely gutless hyperbolic drivel that some people are posting. I tell you what - if the team let their heads go down the same way some fans do, they'd be relegated. I'm so grateful the team I support have more about them than that.

I'd respectfully disagree that 'he can't defend whatsoever' - for most of the season, he's been excellent for us and has had some magnificent games for us. He's not been on form of late and he's made mistakes today.

WARNOCKS A C*** What sort of bullshit was that from experienced player???????? it was a mistake, as I say. a shame. really gutting. i'm as desperate to win as anyone. but we could be 3-1 up! It's a shame but let's not be unfair to the lads. they're trying hard.

it's not over guys. amazingly open match. but we were too open, I guess. could've been 2-1 up a minute before! wow!

what an effort from Carew. Wow. Cracking match.

let's not maim warnock - it was a mistake, but everyone makes them. unfortunate, but not over yet. keep believing people. keep believing.

definite pen - warnock unlucky to slip. - then poor tackle. whoops.

grea ttackle dunney on tevez

we have to keep the ball better. they'll force it in eventually.

riding our luck

I'm so proud that there's even ANYTHING riding on this.

city are going to get a pen and us down to ten through sheer persistence of appeals.

if we keep it clean here i'll donate my house to acorns.

what a game to watch. so tense. we're good on break. downing great effort and same from milner. but they will score a couple here - we'll need a couple more to win!

watching on sopcast. being absolutely outplayed but leading. surely won't last. looks like a thrashing the way it's going - come on VILLA!

I **** love aston villa. come on our boys!!!!!!!

we are if by 6th you mean 7th read my post. I did say we're technically 7th, which is, I believe, what you're pointing out. So you probably didn't need to.

youre dead right sure we're a nothing club 8th is our level and we should never even consider the possibility of ever finishing higher again, coz we're only aston villa I hate posts like this. Why can't you just accept that every manager is equal and we have to stick to our allocated position in the league table? My point is this: I believe (and respect your right to disagree) that many fans have expectations that are not realistic and are therefore more frustrated than they should be. The reason for this is that in terms of investment and quality of players, the teams currently above us are better. On that basis, we are we should be in the league and can hope, but not EXPECT to be higher. It's not about not dreaming of achieving things. It's just that at a time when some people are ready to throw out a manager for only getting us to this position, it's worth considering why you think there's almost a 'right' for us to be doing more than we are. We're 6th, we've had 2 great cup runs. That is NOT below where we should be given the players we have or the money we've spent. That's just my opinion. Of course I want us to be up with Spurs, but they have BETTER PLAYERS.

and then we'd be.....hmm, where are everton in the table? 7th? Isn't that what all of the worry is about?

youre dead right sure we're a nothing club 8th is our level and we should never even consider the possibility of ever finishing higher again, coz we're only aston villa Just as I thought. No answer to my question. I'm waiting...name the side.

All of this frustration at potentially finishing behind: ARSENAL, CHELSEA, MAN UNITED, SPURS, LIVERPOOL, MAN CITY. Which of those team, exactly, do we think we really 'should' be finishing above, and why? Look at their investment and their players. Come on, one of you TELL ME who we should be finishing above and why I should be so enraged at our side, outside of today's result?

We started well but they improved, played really well and showed their quality. We defended poorly, lost our shape and got tired - all the recent efforts caught up with us and we got trounced by a clinical team full of world-class players. Move on, don't let it upset you too much and let's cheer them on against Bolton. It's only a game, people.

this sort of thread, whatever the defeat today, is the MOST EMBARRASING part of today. It's this thread's existence that makes me ashamed to be a villa fan today, not the players' performance. Shameful, knee-jerk and utterly ridiculous. Fans of other clubs reading our board will be laughing at you. Ridiculous.

any fan with any degree of perspective can't be bothered to waste their time on stuff like this. the season is not judged by one month of games.