lee_av

Why slag off Ranson?

Do you know anything about the bid, can you tell me what his plan was, could you give me his offer price, his transfer budget, or even a breakdown of how he was to cover the finance on his bid.

Do you have any idea of the people he had backing him, or who the two ex Villa players were as part of the bid ?

Please advise us oh immortal one.

So you would have prefered Ranson then

With the information available at the time he was a bloody site better than Ellis!

The information was a bit piss poor then.

Hindsight tells us the we might be on the verge of a better package now but at the time that approach was handled appallingly.

He took the Comers for chancers they were and that they wanted nothing more than the land. He called their bluff and they fell away into the background.

Hopefully he won't balls this up now we have some "real" players.

Blimey, yes well done Doug skillfully avoided those Irish chancers and single handedly bagged O'Neill to boot, what a chairman you are.... :roll:

So you would have prefered Ranson then

Hindsight tells us the we might be on the verge of a better package now but at the time that approach was handled appallingly.

He took the Comers for chancers they were and that they wanted nothing more than the land. He called their bluff and they fell away into the background.

Hopefully he won't balls this up now we have some "real" players.

So does anyone think anything will happen tomorrow?

I think this thread is going to go up to about 380 pages before it's all over.

We will know more I feel at the end of the week, but the immediate need to sort the football side of things out has been sorted - we now have a bit of time to sort out the business side of things

He has overstayed his welcome - but I don't care anymore, just want us to move on

why cant all villa fans be like us and agree lol.

Yep agree fran. Whatever position he gets, his name up on the stand, doesnt matter as long as he relinquishes power. ASAP.

Agreed there are more pressing matters in hand

He has to be reminded as fervently as possible, as often as possible that his time is up. He can go anytime he chooses, he could resign the chair tomorrow and let stride handle the sale.

I believe that he knows that his time is up - that's why the club is up for sale. Now, he may want a role as Bates did after the Abramovich takeover - its the beginning of the end for him.

What do we need to remind him of? Whether you like it or not, Villa is a part of his life. As long as he has no actual power, I don't give a **** what they do with him as long as the brand new dawn carries on regardless.

planning permission for the hotel and Northstand has run out we would have to reapply.

Again another Ellis lie

We reapplied a couple of months back didn't we? (North Stand anyway)

If I remember correctly Trotsky it was you who posted this

As you have to to keep it going.

As Ellis has just said those he's been talking to aren't in the Abromovich class but most are big boys

One of them has a complete package to reinvent the whole ground and to have the player on the pitch to fill it so it will happen, when is the question and my bet is within the next week or two, and it won't necessarily be Lerner.

And twice in 2 days that I have agreed with Malcom. Lerner is in the driving seat, not necessarily the best or the biggest bidder

planning permission for the hotel and Northstand has run out we would have to reapply.

Again another Ellis lie

We reapplied a couple of months back didn't we? (North Stand anyway)

If I remember correctly Trotsky it was you who posted this

oh yeah :oops:

a couple of san miguels me thinks !!!

Wow - no there is a first - Ian admitting that he was wrong

o. If they vote to oust the chair, the bid is still going to fail, and an EGM four weeks later would see the despot back on his throne.

not necessarily its now assumed should Petchey say yes then there are enough potntial votes for Ellis to lose.

its also been suggested his aprlour tricks with Lerner and now O'Neil may be moves to call the bluff.

I doubt it mind I still feel he is up to selling at least a controlling interest, trouble is the best bet for the club possibly, doesn't want him involved rightly so

If Ellis has no power base - why shouldn't we let him carry out is days. Once he has gone, then that name can come off the Witton Lane

Graham Taylor Villa manager 1987-90 & 2002-03

It's a good appointment for both parties. I think the Premiership needs Martin back in it and he couldn't be going to Villa at a better time because it's always good to follow what is seen as a period of failure. But I remain convinced there will be a sale of Aston Villa: whether that will be next week or in a month's time. I think this is evidence that there will be a takeover of Aston Villa but because of PLC routines it will take a bit of time. I don't think that Martin would take charge of the club if he thought that Doug was going to stay there forever. I think there's every chance he will make a success of it providing there is a change of ownership.

http://tinyurl.com/kz3um

Interesting stuff from Graham Taylor

Perhaps he is more in the know than he is letting on :winkold:

FWIW, I still think that Ellis will sell, and will prefer to sell to someone that will make him a Life President. All the interseted parties may not like this, but as long as he has no actual power, then who cares. He won't be around forever.

MON has been signed by Ellis and MON himself has said that himself. Obviously MON, will make the sale an easier transition, as it seems that the consortiums involved seem to favour this appointment.

In the short and medium term this is a great appointment. It takes care of the immendiate need to sort out the football side of things outside of the purely business and can move us forward.

Ah no I forgot.

We all love Doug now.

Peake for yourself.

Did you know Jon Fear was BANNED from the press conference tonight?

Why?

One can only presume why.

I'm a big fan of JF, but he had no place at today's press conference and it was right that he was refused entry.

If JF was allowed in, I should be allowed in.

It won't be a popular view, but JF is more effective when he's not trying things like that.

Agreed

Wasn't this a press conference, didn't know that John was now part of the Press fraternity - I tried to get in when Gregory was appointed, and nearly did - until I was grilled for my pass at the last hurdle.

I'd be interested to read Lee_av's comments on this as he was implying last night that a certain QC was at the head of the queue....

No I didn't I just swas implying that it ain't over until the ink is dry - Lerner is in the driving seat, but this process has passengers that may not want to be dropped off just yet.

Whoever takes over, lets hope that this is for the good of AVFC. That's is ALL that matters.

Just because he was Ellis' preferred option doesn't mean Ellis got him. He has said before that he wouldn't work under Ellis, and there are a fair few on here who don't expect that he ever will.

He was asked that in the PC - is MON a liar now?

I know he wasn't

You may want to call Ellis a liar, but I can catergorically say that Martin O Neil isn't. After that press conference, it seems that Ellis was driven to get his man and that was confirmed. This maybe driven partially by the consortiums, to keep the club attractive, but he wasn't made to do anything. If that eases his conscience prior to a takeover all the better.

Now we have a manager that we all can get behind. Along with prospective owners that will be phase 2 of the post Ellis era.

I'm glad that the news from cloud cuckoo land was so accurate.

If Ellis wants to take the credit for getting MON, then He surelt has to take the 'credit' for getting rid of DOL.

Ah feck it, we all know Ellis is responsible for how DOL left, don't we?

Good - he should have done it sooner.

If this is a result of DOL leaving then i'll be eternally greatful to him.

Even I might buy him a drink.

its his doing

Sorry Lee but I disagree. The only thing Ellis has done here is indicate he is leaving. I do not for one minute believe that he had anything to do with Martin Oneil joining the club, I do not believe he was involved in the final negotiations.

Now I never said that he was instrumental, I also think that if there was no takeover in the offing that, but people on here have been having ago saying he will **** it up - he had the power to still **** it up.

Let him have his last press conference in peace before he **** off into the wild blueyonder never to grace his ego again

I know he wasn't

Is that right, then explain.. and while you are at it admit that I wasn't in clund cuckoo land

If Ellis wants to take the credit for getting MON, then He surelt has to take the 'credit' for getting rid of DOL.

Ah feck it, we all know Ellis is responsible for how DOL left, don't we?

Good - he should have done it sooner.

Do you think that this will help the pace of the take over or postpone it?

This is part of the takeover - this is the takeover happening in front of your eyes

strange hhow some peopel including reporters think this is Ellis's doing ???

Greetings from Cloud Cuckoo Land - what was it you said to me Ian the other week, when I said that MON would be ideal for the job :winkold:

Ellis is still the Chairman and CEO - its his doing. There are other circumstances that are pushing this towards MON obviously, but Ellis has always done things for Ellis - he ain't going to change now.

I doubt Ellis is any position to make a deal, do you really think MON has agreed this with Ellis .....

Please remember under Ellis we would have NO money

Yes I do, but MON is not stupid - he knows his days are running out