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Why would the board spend money on new players if the club is being sold?

If you were deep in negotiations to sell your house, you wouldn't decide to put a new roof on it just before the deal's done would you?

If the leaks meant that my house was about to be ruined as a result and hence the value dramatically reduced, you bet I would.

I have to pay rates, gas, electric, insurance and hence keep up maintenance to ensure the sale goes through

But then you wouldn't have put it up for sale at the price you did, would you?

As I said I'm not here to defend Ellis, but it's actually quite fun to act as the Devil's advocate :-)

Devils advocate?????

Sorry.

http://tinyurl.com/6cc89

That proves that JP2 was an absolute loon, as well as a mass murderer

Lee, you hold him and Den can kick the malingering old bugger until he promises to sell up and leave.

I was that close as well last week

Good Man

So when's the new protest?

When you going to organise it?

Whenever you want Den - can I count on your support?

but it's true Lee, if people really cared that we are run by a sick old man, that Leicester can buy Fryatt, or Pompey their players or the fact we have such a small sqaud then they would do something.

Or sit on their hands and do jack shit except snipe and criticise

So when's the new protest?

And the vast majority just moan and want someone else to do something...... and then many of them moan at those people for trying

Hail to the revolutionaries!!

:roll:

but it's true Lee, if people really cared that we are run by a sick old man, that Leicester can buy Fryatt, or Pompey their players or the fact we have such a small sqaud then they would do something.

some protest

some discard ST's

3,000 have **** off

but the majority care but can't be bothered, there is no other explanation.

Really scrapping the barrel aren't ya.

Fryatt - unproven - shows promise, but we already have Luke.

Pompey - they have spent £7m worth of shite today.

not really LG, most like the easy life.

Ah - that old chestnut :winkold:

Losing interest now.

Someone wake me up when this is over one way or t'other.

For now I'l just concentrate on what the club is all about, football.

Richard I'm impressed - have you seen the light

WHAT ABOUT THAT FOR MY 2000TH POST ON VT - WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT EH!!

I see a Villa without Ellis I just hope that what I see matches up to the expectations.

No expectations from me, just hope and anticipation, emotions I havent felt with Villa for 11 years.

Didn't say that they were my expectations :winkold:

I see a Villa without Ellis I just hope that what I see matches up to the expectations.

Why wouldnt the Comer's claim to be £10m short? You don't become self-made billionaires by throwing an extra £10m at something just to save time.

And conversely, you don't become a millionaire by selling things for less than someone is prepared to pay (even if it is over-priced).

Its business. Hard nosed business. Bluff, smokescreens and bluster. And we're caught in the middle. There's no point getting worked up about it. Just sit back and try to enjoy the ride.

Again Dave spot on - the post from Chris has stated at the moment that they are still talking - until Neville/Ellis/Comers state otherwise, as you say all the tak is just bluster.

And i really wanted to go to the Port Vale game as well. But i refuse to go whilst HE is in charge.

There are so many nasty things i could write.

You can support the Team, and still not support the Board - I thought we were a football club

I'll still not renew my ST til that old clearing in the woods has gone.

Your choice mate. Personally I prefer to support the Villa through thick & thin.

As for the takeover - I think there's an awful lot of posturing and attempts to smoke people out going on currently. I wouldn't believe ANYTHING you read in the press until it has concrete quotes from both sides in it.

Exaclty.

we are doomed

Why?

Unless of course you believe the fanciful Trust can somehow perusade Ellis just to simply hand over his shares

Where do they clain that Ian? :roll:

there have been several interested parties along the way...

and i dont think the comers/neville have actually made a bid yet...

but he chose to let them get to the due dilligence stage, whereas he didnt with ranson....

I'm interested, but at the end of the day I can't afford it. Neville/Comers had made a bid in principle, but obviously when they have done "due delligence (?)" it looks like they have decided not proceed.

Ransons bid din't add up - he was undervalueing the club un the eyes of the sellers, and decided not to sell.

tbh, if they ARE after the land and to bleed us dry, then its down to ellis...

HE picked them out of the interested parties and brought them to the table to deal with...

Where is the reasoning behind that?

If they are the only people that have made a solid bid then the only choice is to accept or refuse.

Who else is clammering over hot coals to buy us?

Perhaps it's time for Neville to make a statement and stop this constant smoke screen

What smoke screen? And why is it Neville who needs to make a statement?

The article correctly states:

Ellis told shareholders at Villa's annual meeting in October that he hoped to be in a position to let shareholders know about the viability of take-over proposals "within a month". Despite the Cromers' interest becoming public, no comment has been forthcoming.

Hello Doug? Are you there? What's happening?

Why shouldn't he - if the deal details have been changed from what they were before, he can confirm or deny that the Comers have decided withdraw/continue.

Doug is under certain Stock Market restrictions, and at the end of the day he can only deal with whats in front of him

Perhaps it's time for Neville to make a statement and stop this constant smoke screen

thats what happens when you sit next to you Lee :-) - Look at IanRobo and the effect you had had on him ....

I ain't finished with him yet.

I sat very close to Mr Ellis in the Albion Directors box and he lookedvery unwell to me.

Take it from me he ain't any better..... and I geninely take no pleasure in saying that

Denis - I never belived that he was - 12 months ago whilst having a minor op on my shoulder I was told by one of the nurses at a private hostpital that he knew of Mr Ellis's condition and told me despite his statements that he was on the mend etc, (prior to his heart bypass), the situation was not like that at all.

With the perhaps impending collapse of the takeover for what ever reason, it may be that the Comers are taking a back seat awating the inevitable and looking to buy " on the cheap" off his estate.

Are we necessarily in a btter position. If Doug could see through something that with the deal - all we can hope for is that his instructions have been passed on, that the deal must be best for football reasons, not someone that will sell the land and make a quick buck, as it seems that's what the Comers wanted.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/aston_villa/article337752.ece

Irish magnates pull out of £64m Villa takeover

By Phil Shaw

Published: 11 January 2006

The proposed £64m take-over of Aston Villa, which would have seen the octogenarian chairman Doug Ellis finally relinquish control of the Premiership club, appears to have fallen through after the Irish property magnates linked with the deal decided not to proceed.

Brian and Luke Comer, the Galway-born, Hertfordshire-based brothers who were attracted to Villa by the prospect of developing land owned by the club within the grounds of Villa Park, are understood to regard Ellis' valuation as too high given the location and nature of the property and the price being sought.

After negotiations which started in the autumn, the Cromers have withdrawn. The Solihull entrepreneur and lifelong Villa supporter Michael Neville will now try to find fresh investors for his consortium, which was reported to have offered 560p per share to buy the majority shareholding, held by Ellis and the businessman Jack Petchey.

The failure of the take-over will come as a blow, if not an unexpected one, to the Villa manager, David O'Leary. The one-time free-spender at Leeds United had hoped to have funds for strengthening one of the top division's smallest squads during the January transfer window.

Club sources, who had claimed the delays were caused by the legal process of "due diligence", have yet to confirm that the deal is dead. But they do not now expect Ellis' controversial reign - which stretches back to the 1960s with only a brief hiatus a quarter of a century ago, during which Villa won the European Cup - to end in the near future.

Ellis told shareholders at Villa's annual meeting in October that he hoped to be in a position to let shareholders know about the viability of take-over proposals "within a month". Despite the Cromers' interest becoming public, no comment has been forthcoming.

The affair has been played out in contrast with the quickfireinvestment in Portsmouth by a Russian multi-millionaire. However, Villa fans frustrated by the collapse of the Irish bid and Ellis' alleged lack of ambition, may come to view events differently. Neither brother has a strong interest in football.

The proposed £64m take-over of Aston Villa, which would have seen the octogenarian chairman Doug Ellis finally relinquish control of the Premiership club, appears to have fallen through after the Irish property magnates linked with the deal decided not to proceed.

Brian and Luke Comer, the Galway-born, Hertfordshire-based brothers who were attracted to Villa by the prospect of developing land owned by the club within the grounds of Villa Park, are understood to regard Ellis' valuation as too high given the location and nature of the property and the price being sought.

After negotiations which started in the autumn, the Cromers have withdrawn. The Solihull entrepreneur and lifelong Villa supporter Michael Neville will now try to find fresh investors for his consortium, which was reported to have offered 560p per share to buy the majority shareholding, held by Ellis and the businessman Jack Petchey.

The failure of the take-over will come as a blow, if not an unexpected one, to the Villa manager, David O'Leary. The one-time free-spender at Leeds United had hoped to have funds for strengthening one of the top division's smallest squads during the January transfer window.

Club sources, who had claimed the delays were caused by the legal process of "due diligence", have yet to confirm that the deal is dead. But they do not now expect Ellis' controversial reign - which stretches back to the 1960s with only a brief hiatus a quarter of a century ago, during which Villa won the European Cup - to end in the near future.

Ellis told shareholders at Villa's annual meeting in October that he hoped to be in a position to let shareholders know about the viability of take-over proposals "within a month". Despite the Cromers' interest becoming public, no comment has been forthcoming.

The affair has been played out in contrast with the quickfireinvestment in Portsmouth by a Russian multi-millionaire. However, Villa fans frustrated by the collapse of the Irish bid and Ellis' alleged lack of ambition, may come to view events differently. Neither brother has a strong interest in football.

I sat very close to Mr Ellis in the Albion Directors box and he lookedvery unwell to me.