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4 minutes ago, Flynnchin84 said:

 

Never ever ever ever ever

I'll leave this thought as it makes me sick but IF the chinese decide this is what they will do, then....

Just now, Hoof hearted said:

As long as they play in claret and blue, at Villa park and are called Aston Villa then crack on!

Sure, but that's not what I was saying... more like Midlands FC playing in red at some new stadium called YingYang ground outside of the city of Brum. 

1 hour ago, Deisler123 said:

Yes, there are some media coverage about this. Wanda (Wang Jianlin, who is the most wealthiest businessman in Asia) take over West Brom. Not sure it will happen. Too late to buy a club in August.

But if someone from China will buy a PL club, it no doubt will be Wang Jianlin.

if this indeed happens, I wouldn't be surprised if West Brom become one of the richest clubs with billions of pounds parachute money. 

If one is paranoid one could perhaps see the Chinese buying all of the major clubs in and around Birmingham, merging them and creating Midlands FC - just saying, stranger things have happened.  

sorry if already posted but VT getting famous: http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/08/interesting-reaction-aston-villa-fans-newcastle-bid-cieran-clark-newcastle-united/ 

9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

How have we ended up selling him hours after the manager said he was staying? Or is that not what has happened?

I think it is and this is the reason why Xia reacts as he does. Apparently Clark has done a Delph. 

4 minutes ago, One For The Road said:

Anyone still prepared to come on VT and defend this buffoon and his penchant for tweeting? He needs to stop. Plain and simple.

What is wrong with this tweet, then? I do not understand. If Ghana and Clark have told RDM and Xia that they will stay and they quickly thereafter are leaving, I think anyone associated with the club, including you and me, have every right to be pissed off. This regardless of whether we are actually happy with these players leaving - it is all about showing Aston Villa FC some F****** RESPECT! I doubt he is lying on this subject (do you?) and if so I think this provides information which is quite unique and interesting (do you?) and which explains some of the difficulties with transfer windows (you know; i.a. why we do not just sign a lot of players NOW). So yes, I am prepared to defend this tweet, there is nothing wrong with it - Clark seems to have played our club and deserves to be outed.  

This would be surprising on so many levels.  

2 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Start spending into that 50 million you promised, an you can say what the frack you want on twitter.

Continued statements like these really do not contribute to anything positive.

I am sure even you actually know that he never "promised 50 million" but let's not get any facts disturb your position. Besides, why would his response become more professional if the club spent 50 million on players first? 

1 minute ago, TRO said:

Why don't you just say welsh and be done with it.

Ha ha!! Not Welsh at all. I am one of those liberal Scandinavians.... 

9 minutes ago, blandy said:

They do, as do many more enlightened and successful businesses, but it's off topic, so I'll leave it there.

They do absolutely not but as you say: off topic  

1 hour ago, Davkaus said:

This dickhead needs to wind his neck in, and I'm not talking about Holloway. 

No respect and I am not talking about Xia....

1 hour ago, blandy said:

 

No it bloody shouldn't! That's so, so wrong on several levels. if you invest as little as you can get away with, you're not planning to succeed - it's the low rent Mike Ashley approach.

The really successful companies and businesses are much smarter than that. The invest well beyond minimum levels. From Google letting people work a number of hours on whatever they like, to Amazon investing year after year in building and building, for no return at all, other than growing the business, so that eventually the return will be huge.

Which, of course is the same thing; minimum investment for maximum return.  Or do you seriously believe Amazon or Google operate in any other way??! It's just the time perspective that is different, not the modus operandi or the goal. 

6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

 

He can't score, he doesn't assist, he can't tackle, he can't take a corner or a freekick or create a chance out of nothing. He's trash to be honest. Hard working, maybe, but absolute trash. 

And there you have it. I would, for completeness, add that he can't pass anything else than backwards or sideways 5 yards.  

4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

Yeah, thanks Bateman (or is it Paul Allen?) but could you put that in English for those who don't work on Wall Street?

it looks like they have primarily just converted debt into equity - it is a balance sheet exercise and does not give the club any fresh, new money.

18 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

This. 

This no 2

Got a public bollocking by legend Tony Morley during the commentary of today's game, Tony basically saying "he turned his back on us, I want him out". I have never heard that before, or anything close to it. How Gabby can come back I do not know and I agree with posters saying we should get rid no matter what. In fact, I have been saying for quite some time that his contract should have been terminated and then Villa should have stood behind that decision in litigation if it came to that.  

2 minutes ago, useless said:

Reaction to the defeat is completely over the top. Whilst it's nice to win games, friendlies don't really give an indication on what's to come the following season.

Do not think it is a reaction to a defeat. It is a reaction to a performance one week before the season starts.  Or should I say "non-performance". 

I honestly think too many in the sqaud are "tainted". Apart from being shit they are despised by the fans. It is a effing disease and RDM should see that. Playing Bacuna only can go bad. It just can. Too many of the old crap are involved. Yes, it takes time  but FFS play Green and give some of the other youngsters a chance. 

4 minutes ago, sne said:

Offers nothing

Too true.  He actually offers absolutely nothing at all. Sadly I have the impression that he is one of the "good guys" - no problem or issues with him or his attitude but..... jeeeez he is just not good enough.   

Just now, VillanousOne said:

everytime i see names like Gestede, Westwood, Hutton, Cissokho, Bacuna = loss

 

This. Unfortunately I think we will see at least 4 of these at Wednesday. 

1 hour ago, BOF said:

Which is all very well but it will mean you often end up not getting the player you wanted.  It's idealism and has little basis in modern footballing reality.

It's an interesting subject for debate. Player power has increased substantially over the years but in my view, this will change. As all other things, the balance will swing from one side to the other and player power is now so strong that I can see the balance starting to swing the other way. For example,  I do not see clubs in  the future accepting to pay shitloads in wages and not being able to terminate contracts for cause as in all other employment relationships (Read: the "Gabby situation"). Clubs will IMO, due to better financial positions  (both due to rich owners, TV deals and other substantial revenue streams and the pure fact that player contracts have become quite extreme), be able to start commanding more balanced contracts. I am not saying that Villa will be the "first mover" on this but; why the hell not: In the championship we are, despite what some of our more depressed fans are saying, one the most attractive prospects and we may, just may, be able to say more than before that "we want you but it will be on our terms". I for one would welcome such a development and if Dr Mr Tony Tweet wants to champion this I will be cheering him on. 

On 16.7.2016 at 21:23, Michelsen said:

Beautiful. I need to get myself a Boca shirt.

M, buy the River Plate one in stead - suits your personality ETC better (internal joke warning) 

On 9.7.2016 at 16:52, TrentVilla said:

Yes they do, they also do what is best for the team, he went with the team rather than make the team fit the individual.

It think its a very weak argument using Benteke as evidence of his poor performance. 

As for you point re Dortmund, I won't counter that as you did so yourself

Benteke is for me not at all "evidence of his poor performance", there is no need for such evidence. This not being a dig against you, but: For heavens sake, they ended up 8th and no trophies, losing the European league final against opposition they really should have beat on neutral ground. Now, without CL and Europe at all, they will have to shop from lower shelves than a lot of clubs they do not want to compare themselves with, and they need to pay top dollar to bring second rate players. Of course the devine and self proclaimed best fans in the world always believe they are going to win everything and most players they sign are "world class" - most of them have no clue how far behind their club is. Klopp is interesting and amusing, I do not however think he is the second coming as most Liverpool fans seem to think as of today.  8th place in the league and most of their fans this is is the best thing since sliced bread - I do not understand why. 

5 hours ago, Stevo985 said:

The only deluded one is you if you believe that.

Sending a team out with the only goal being to beat Telford in a pre-season match would be moronic. That's not what they're for.

Aaaahhh, the annual summer holiday debate on whether results in friendlies "means anything". On the face of it; of course they do not, no points are gained or lost. On the other hand; I strongly believe it says something about a team's culture and whether the players and management "accept" losing. Of course, when playing Telford it is not the main aim to win.  However, if you lose, and then lose more matches in preseason against lower teams, it does not help the general mood. Especially for a team/club like Villa who has produced loosers and loosing teams for years I do believe that results in preseason, at least taken as a whole, are indeed important. This club and these players need to learn to win and learn to understand that underachievement is no longer acceptable. If these players perform as they should, we do not lose preseason games against lower opposition. Besides, I just hate seing the great Aston Villa lose any game....