Richard

3 minutes ago, TRO said:

 

It was hardly convincing in terms of performance.....but for me Richard confidence has drained a bit since Leeds.

imv we are not combatitive enough to force errors to force wins....to easy to negate.

Not buying that, we were poor against Leeds as well. 

If Steve Bruce is allowing a personal clash with tshibola to stop him playing and thus weaken our team it is a disgrace

2 minutes ago, TRO said:

We simply can't have this poor level of midfield work and expect to get results at even this level.

not fit for purpose.

But managed it for his first 7 games

2 minutes ago, sidcow said:

I keep seeing Richard tearing a strip off Bruce,  but really RDM is to blame for so much of this.  Our midfield is totally dysfunctional and the expensive forwards do not complement each other or the team. 

Bruce is a solid proven manager at this level but he can't turn water into wine. 

So gets no credit at all for his first 7 games. I must sent a note to rdm thanking him for those results. Dress it up however you want we have been poor , very poor, since Brighton away

Commentator doing his best to sell our top players , cheers

A host of team changes, yet still a poor team selection  , a bollocking given out , yet still playing poorly. Yep well done bruce

Not impressed by team selection or the way we are playing.

He has averaged mid 30's in terms of league games throughout his career and that is a figure he has achieved in each of the last 4 years for Everton.  This year he has featured in 14 of their 16 league games so far.  I'd say he is already playing regularly for a 35 year old

Damn those Guardian reporters who have a vendetta against him for things away from the pitch

You know what I meant 

^^^ my head hurts.  Football is such a simple game.  Gregory used to tell the players KISS all the time

5 hours ago, alreadyexists said:

Steve is going to tear them a new ass I think after that. 

Apparently he did at half time.  That worked

Just now, hippo said:

Be a story and a half if he left us for a return to the noses !

Stranger things have happened but I'd take Rowett in a heart beat if we had a vacancy

3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said:

No communication from chairman - boooooo

Sensible transparency - shut up!

 

LOL

Firstly is it the same people doing both? secondly whether or not describing his employees as unprofessional is sensible or not is basically a matter of opinion,  not fact.

Rowett will make a very decent manager for somebody.  I am amazed he has left them

At this stage Baker is better,  hell 'd even say Clarke is better

1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

Gil would absolutely walk into this shambles of a team. 

He wouldnt be on his own there as the rest of them are walking in it too

We need a new central defender in january as well as midfield.  Priority for me is shifting deadwood and then recruiting in defence (right and centre) and midfield.

18 minutes ago, handsworthvilla said:

What exactly did he do wrong yesterday? The strike was right in the bottom corner he wasn't getting anywhere near that ...

Other than that he didn't have a great deal to do because our defence cleared everything away (which you would find hard to believe if you read the Tommy Elphwick thread!) 

Made a good double save in the first half if I remember correctly. Ok could maybe have held the first strike but showed great athleticism to get up and at the attackers feet for the second shot. 

Christ he is a hell of an improvement on Guzan / Bunn, and certainly not the reason we looked so crap yesterday. 

I agree with this.  I'd also add that he is not helped by having shit understudies to work with.  Bunn,  Steer, Siegrest we have 4 goalkeepers and one decent one.  Bring a new goalie in for sure if you want but lets get rid of the shit we have here as well

Needs to shut up about "unprofessional" players.

5 minutes ago, DK82 said:

 

As much as I do not like Agbonlahor that could be any one of ten players last night.  To be honest not sure he should be making comments like that but hey ho thats an argument that has been had before

Where the **** is Tshibola.  I fail to accept either Gardner or Westwood are better than himI just do not see that.

I've seen people say two or three in midfield.  Sorry dont like either of them.

If we are talking formations then maybe 4-1-4-1  or 4-5-1 are the way to go with Jedinak in front of the back 4 then a four man midfield of Adomha on the right,  Tshibola and Grealish in the middle and a left winger which we need desperately,  why has Green not been tried there?

People like Agbonlahor,  Westwood,  Gardner are not the future.  Green and RHM are the future and they are much more worth a try than the other three losers shoe horned into a midfield formation that isnt working.

It isnt solid and wont be with two or three in there .  Needs to be four with some in the middle and some width.

Wont quote anyone in particular but Ive seen suggestions we shouldnt judge him on the performance as the players at his disposal are crap.  Also seen that we shouldnt judge him on what he says as it doesn't make a difference.  So basically we shouldnt judge him then? So that means the decent run we have had we cant judge him on that either?

I will be open and say I wasn't keen on Bruce as manager but he is here now and I want him to succeed like you would not believe.  Does that mean I will not criticise when IMO it is justified ? No ,  just because he is Steve Bruce does not mean he is beyond criticism and just because I didnt want him as manager does not mean I am not allowed to be critical when it is warranted either ,  however much people want to throw it at me.

Last night he made a number of fundamental errors,  team selection,  tactics / formation,  decision making in changes all of these. Some say he gave them a bollocking at half time, well he failed in motivation as well then as the second half was worse than the first.

Last night was a very very bad day at the office,  but it has been coming.  We have  been poor since Brighton away I would suggest.  What has changed? Is it Calderwood coming on board? Who knows but our performances have notably dipped since Brighton.  And performances do matter,  despite people taking the piss out of me for saying it 3 points against Wigan is the minimum.  Goal difference may be an issue,  having a good performance to build on and motivate the team matters.  Them clicking together matters and building on that helps.  Having a turgid performance with a goal in the last minute does not help those things.  You cant keep playing badly and fluking a jammy win, it catches up with you.

I hope he turns it around and quickly,  not that we will go up this season but momentum into next season will help. But he will not turn it around by failing to recognise our problems or his share of the responsibility for those problems.  Him saying that last night "shows why the club brought me in to change that" or words to that effect basically tell me he is not recognising his own contribution and failing to address that.  That does him the club the players or the fans no favours at all.  Its ten games Steve,  your team selection,  your tactical talks,  your training methods,  your motivation,  or are we to say the first 7 games were nothing to do with you either then? You cant have one without the other.