Jarpie

I expect this being pretty much "Story of the Month", then mostly just vanish and most people forgetting the whole thing. Anyone who's surprised that these things happen in the Hollywood is very naive, Hollywood is full of assholes, desperate narcissists running after fame, etc. Hollywood is made for people being dickwads. I remember Orson Welles talking about Hollywood after he left for Europe, that most people in Hollywood isn't there for the money, as there are easier ways to make it than films, most people are in Hollywood due egos, fame, (perceived) power and feeling of being important.

Hollywood will throw Weinstein, and maybe some others under the bus, do some "We're gonna set up safeguards to prevent this happening again" etc the usual bullshit, and nothing will really change. Hollywood has been utterly disgusting and degenerate place since it was founded. Having some knowledge how the film business work, they are not gonna change anything unless they have to and out of desperation.

Despite all his faults, scandals etc, I've always seen him as determined and ambitious pro who has put 100% in the field when I've seen him play. Glad to see he's continuing that with us.

Laine had a very good pre-season but that doesn't really show how well he's gonna do on regular season. Second season also tends to be tougher than the first, but here's hoping he's gonna improve.

Edmonton sent Puljujarvi to the farms, boo. He had decent pre-season, but we'll see, it wouldn't be the first time (afaik) for Edmonton to mismanage a great prospect.

2 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

They haven't learned a lesson from Spurs after they sold Bale and Liverpool after Suarez.

They had a real shot at breaking up the hegemony with all the money they had, but pissed it up the wall. Must be infuriating being an Everton fan right now.

Sounds like all too familiar story, unfortunately. Replacing Lukaku would've been very hard, not many as good goal scorers around, even in elsewhere of europe.

8 hours ago, rodders0223 said:

Forssell could have went right to the top if his knees weren't made out of soggy biscuits. Great footwork, deadly finisher. By the time he went back to Blues I think he had already failed a medical at Everton and that was pretty much the end of him as a genuine threat. Can't have been more than 23 or 24

I remember reading some finnish article/interview with some sport physio. He said that part of the Forssel's problem with the rehabilitation was that Forssell did too much strength training. I think that was probably common mistake back then.

1 minute ago, VillaChris said:

I remember him at Rangers, used to score loads after coming on as a sub and then did o.k as you say at Charlton.

Finland had an Iceland type of golden generation at the start of the 00s, Niemi, Jussi, Hyypia, Aki Rihilalti, Litmanen, Forssell, Johansson all premier league regulars at the time. Joonas Kolkka was a good player for PSV around that time aswell.

Didn't really impact much on the qualifying groups though although I think you got a 0-0 with England in one of them?

Yeah, we had golden generation in late 90s and early 2000s, but our national team didn't know how to win games, mental-wise. Unfortunately Litmanen was mostly crocked by early 2000s already too. Still he had a gret career.

9 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

He still had a reasonably good career, had a great year at SHA (same year as JPA had his golden season for us) and then scored a few afterwards but injuries knackered him.

Another potentially promising finnish player in the early 2000s was Jonatan Johansson, he had a very good first season in Charlton, but injury cut it short. He was never able to recapture his earlier form either.

On 6/12/2017 at 22:24, VillaChris said:

Mikael Forssell.

I believe he's still playing in Finland and still only mid 30s.

Was desperate for us to sign him that one year he was on fire at SHA as I think he'd have been fantastic with Angel but he did his knee soon after and was never really the same force again.

One of the biggest "what if" stories in finnish football, he had a very good potential but never (got to) fullfil it. Could've been our best attacking player after Litmanen.

I agree with him completely, politics should be kept out of any sport completely, when I watch sport, I want to see sports, not anything political, even if I'd agree with it.

5 hours ago, mikeyp102 said:

Had Friday and Monday off work so weekend turned into a bit of a blow out. Didn't stick to the diet, but didn't eat too excessively, even though I overdid it on sweets. Weighed myself today and supposedly put on loads... not having it, yes I could understand 1/2 pounds at a push but 6... no chance, especially as I was still walking between 5-10 mile a day. I know in a couple of days I'll be less again, just take ages to stop the bloated feeling. Disappointed with myself now 

One's weight is not stable necessarily, it can jump around a bit...also the stuff you've eaten weights too so before they've exited, they're gonna weight too. I had pizza and some other stuff on saturday so my weight went up a bit, and now it's back below what it was before the saturday. Wait half a week or a week and your 6 pounds have probably mostly vanished.

On 1.7.2017 at 17:46, magnkarl said:

A colleague of mine swears by a water fasting diet once every quarter. He'll go a whole week on only water and supplements, and he keeps claiming that it's the best thing he's ever decided to do. He says that his brain power and energy peaks around the third day because the body doesn't use so much energy on breaking down food. Has anyone tried something similar? It sounds a bit like mumbo jumbo to me, but there are several case studies that say that inducing fasting is one of the more healthy thing you can do to your body.

My diet is generally everything in moderation, I eat a lot on days where I exercise but I find that it doesn't seem to be affect my weight. I never really eat take out and make a lot of the food that we eat from scratch. I often have a smoothie in the morning with 1 banana, 50g of oats, almond milk, frozen berries (I buy the big packets at asda that cost £3) and a couple of dates. This keeps me full well into the afternoon. I also try to eat whole grain wherever I can, be it pasta, rice or bread. I think longer lasting carbohydrates are one of the main reasons I keep my weight stable.

On top of that I supplement a lot with whatever is in season in our veg garden, around this time of the year I eat copious amounts of garlic, herbs, zucchini, leafy greens and peas. A favourite of mine is a raw cashew pesto with lots of garlic, some strong cheese like mature cheddar, parsley, basil and good olive oil. Whizz it for a few minutes in the food processor and add to wholegrain pasta. It is something that takes less than 10 minutes to prepare.

Is the bread white bread or dark rye bread? Try switching to 100% rye bread, should be much more healthier than the white breads. Just check that the flour is 100% rye flour, and not mixture. The best rye breads in Finland are done from the flour which is 100% rye (I think about 75-80% of the whole bread is flour). Could be a good idea to count how many calories you consume if your weight isn't decreasing, I try to keep my caloric intake just a bit higher on the days I hit the gym, about 200-300 calories more, which comes from the protein sludge I usually drink after the gym.

I'm just about 137kg at the moment, or 21.57 stones if I made conversion correctly. I've dropped about a kilo in a week since start of march, which comes to 0.15 stones...you britbongs and your crazy units...

9 hours ago, Midfielder said:

Hey Jarpie, I totally do understand and your English is faultless. I don't agree with any fat shaming nonetheless it has crept into our language and yes born out of a concept of some bastard shaming someone. Agreed on all counts. Nobody has the right to effectively bully another. 

I used the term to bully none other than myself. Alas though, good sir, there is at hand a good and bad conscience within me. BecAuse, at Tesco you can get a litre of Jack Daniels for 18 bloody quid my friend. I dunno what the calories are in that but I'm sipping on that right now. 

As for the dieting thread I will get there it just takes a lot of life changing when someone such as me, is a lazy prone-to-temptation (and great deals in the supermarket) type. 

It's like an oil tanker , needs to put the brakes on, a mile or two before it docks to come to a halt right? That's me. That oil tanker. The brakes are preparing to diet and make life changing decisions for the better and not just this poxy target I have for fitting into suit at wedding. Someone once told me 'dieting is temporary, healthy eating is a permanent lifestyle choice for the better' or something paraphrasing closely as such. 

I better get off the dieting thread now as I'm a temporary traitor and I gotta go stand outside as rural place and the Chinese is way past the 45 mins he's probably lost. Oops I've said too much. This turncoat is outta here. 

EDIT since I ordered my takeaway at 8 and it's 925 and delivery time 45 mins, by the time I get my food it'll prob be stone cold. Add to the equation that it was the only place on JUST EAT that would come out this far, doesn't bode well. My point, a weak one, is, that I probably will lose a lot of weight tomorrow morning despite the horrific calorific intake forthcoming. 

Why midfielder? 

Well, the Brads of course. 

The what?

the Brad Pitts. The shits! 

A rough takeaway once in a while is a sure fire way to lose a stone in 24 hours I fully recommend it. Should write a book, make a bit of money. The Midfielder diet. Coming soon to your local Poundland.

Changing your lifestyle or habits is not easy, for me going cold turkey on most stuff worked best, but that probably won't work for everyone. There are 'tricks' on how to break up habits, the channel I linked earlier did video on it:

Not sure about chinese or other takeaway for how healthy they are, probably lot more healthier than regular junkfood like hamburgers and fries etc. Some people need a "trigger" to get them motivated, for me it was when I decided to get back fishing after almost 20 years since I did that last time. Went to the nearby lake to fish with my father, and my legs and back got tired pretty quickly and moving around was like the german WW2 tank "Maus" moving, that's when I decided "I gotta lose this 60 kilos of excess fat". There are health reasons too, such as my brother dying due heart problems at 47 for numerous reasons. Fortunately even though I've been very obese at my worst, I never had high blood sugar levels, high blood pressure or high cholesterol and I don't drink or smoke, but it was one part in me waking up to the fact that I need to change my lifestyle.

I also decided to take almost daily walks, first I couldn't even walk probably half a kilometer without my back and legs starting to ache and get very tired, but with patience, determination and persistence it wasn't probably more than 3-4 weeks till I was walking about 45-60 minutes without much trouble. I did make some mistakes though, I should've started to stretch my legs etc much more since the beginning, but as my life philosophy is "Something shit happens (or you make a mistake) -> you learn from it -> you move on", and I've fixed that since then.

My biggest problems with eating for the longest time were soft drinks, full juices (as they still have a lot of sugar from the fruits), potato chips and candy...and also kebab...the kebab meat itself isn't that much of a problem though, but the kebab meals themselves because they have a lot of meat, potatoes (like fries or in some other form) so they have a LOT of calories. Counting your calories is a good idea though, but what you should do is to count how many calories you consume first, and then see what you should drop from them, instead of going "I've now eaten 2500 calories so I won't anything else today". What you wrote about dieting vs. changing your whole eating habits is afaik very much true, because with short dieting to lose weight, there's much bigger chance of falling back into our eating habits and then regaining your weight. With quickly losing weight, especially combined with suddenly starting to exercise a lot more than before can screw with your metabolism, as your body might start to fight back the weight loss, but there are probably ways to counter that.

48 minutes ago, BOF said:

I think there are 2 distinct issues with fat and fat acceptance, and where I completely sympathise with one, I'm not on board with the other.

Where I do agree completely with 'the fat person' (TFP) in the discussion is that everyone should be entitled to be comfortable within their own skin.  No-one should be subjected to ridicule and made to feel embarrassed or ashamed in public.  To me that's just common decency.  So I don't think unsolicited 'fat shaming' is ever a good thing.  Not just because it's bullying, but because in all likelyhood the resulting self-esteem of that person makes it far more difficult for them to ever decide to turn it all around.  In fact it probably just encourages them to keep going down that path.  After all, it's much easier to go out walking/jogging or join a gym if you're not completely self-conscious and mortified of being in public beforehand.

Now where I do not agree with TFP is when they then go and try to say they are perfectly healthy too, and try to portray it as something for others (young people) to almost aspire to.  Ignoring the well-documented health risks.  That's completely wrong, dangerous and irresponsible.  You are what you are, and that's fine as above.  But don't try to manipulate acceptance into something more than it is.  That's where you lose my support completely.

But yeah, good luck ever poking that hornet's nest on social media  

Yeah, although I do think it greatly depends on the person what works to get them to lose weight or at least attempt to, positive encouraging works for others and "poking them" works for others, but yeah, bullying is wrong.

Nowadays it's been turned the other way around, people who are fit, especially very fit, have started to get shit for being fit, probably by people who are themselves miserable to make others miserable too, "If I can't be happy, then no one can!" type of thing. All the social media crap we see nowadays and the "me me me me me me me me me me!"-culture what has propped up in the last decade or so is probably part of the blame. Another what I think is the blame for the "Every body is healthy" etc crap is the "You can be anything you decide you are and everyone needs to pander to it"-thing which has really come into the front in the last 4-5 years I'd say.

To mock that nonsense I've started to say that I am proud Trans-American, 'MURRICA **** YEAH! RED WHITE AND BLUE! YE-HAW!

Not go out of topic completely, when I decided to change my lifestyle, it didn't take overly long to get past the sugar etc cravings, same with heavy/greasy foods, I used to eat a lot of kebab, and one of the types I especially liked was rolled kebab with a blue cheese. I hadn't eaten those for almost a year when I decided to get one last summer, it made me feel like in a coma for the rest of the day. Haven't had that craving since then, lol.

29 minutes ago, Midfielder said:

Yeah totally agreed fella. An ugly term indeed and has horrible origins to those that have been 'shamed'. Some people are opportunistic C words that get a thrill out of any way of getting a laugh or belittling someone else, with such shaming as their way of doing so. 

 

Just want to make sure we understand each other as english is not my native language. I meant that the whole movement of "every body is healthy" no matter of their size or spouting nonsense about having "thin privilege" if someone else is fit is utterly retarded. I guess I'm a traitor because I want to get really fit.

Or if someone is telling fat people to get fit that's somehow "fat shaming". Utter bloody insanity.

Not directed at you @Midfielder, but gotta say that fat shaming, fat pride, fat acceptance, body positivity, "Every body is healthy" etc stuff what some people spout are one of the most retarded things I've ever seen people spouting. It's just an excuse by lazy slobs who doesn't want to stop stuffing their faces into horrible crap they eat. I think it's also symptom of people not wanting to take responsibility for their own choices, in most cases it's no one elses fault but their own that they've gotten fat, sure there are medical reasons why some people gain weight or can't lose it, like thyroid problems or some medication which causes it, but there are probably ways to deal with those issues in many of those cases.

It's probably also to do with people being envious of others who are willing to put work into being or getting fit, sure genetics plays part on how you look or where you get your fat etc but it's not impossible to deal with that either, it just requires work and willingness to put time into dealing with it. As someone who's fat, but steadily losing weight and getting fit in the gym, I gotta say that I have not felt better ever before in my life. Working out in the gym feels great, not just physically but also mentally, it's a great place to clear your mind and concentrate on just what you're doing in the gym. My energy levels are also much better than they were couple years ago, and I'm actually looking stuff to do as I'm unemployed at the moment, when before I just sat by my computer and browsed internet or watched youtube/tv-shows.

7 hours ago, lapal_fan said:

Yea I know that.  I'd be happy with a couple of lb a week, so I'm thinking this couple of weeks is a bonus kick starter.

I just did a calorie count thing and I'm actually hitting 1500 a day.

I dropped a dress size and feel good anyway.  Just keep swimming  

Great work on losing weight, but don't forget that avoiding to consume too many calories when you hit your goal is the key to keep your new weight. I've seen it happen with one of my relatives, he went on a diet -> lost bunch of weight -> went back to old habits -> gained most of them back.

When I started my own project to lose weight, and stopped consuming junk food, candy, potato chips etc crap, I accepted the fact that I can never go back to my old habits, and I made my peace with it. I haven't given up on those completely but beside of rare occurrences, I have to avoid eating that crap. I haven't gone "crazy" with my eating habits, like calculating how much exactly I need carbs (because your body and brains needs those too) or how much protein I consume exactly, but keeping protein about 100-140 g / day seems to be working for me as I also work out in gym. Although I've tried to avoid sugar as much as possible except what I get from the one or two bananas/oranges I eat daily.

The problem for me will probably be upping the calories intake when I finally hit my goal, as I've gotten used to eating pretty lightly (about 2000 calories/day, give or take 100-150), but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Edit: Found this channel a while ago, she has some great stuff in it. https://www.youtube.com/user/gaugegirl82

1 hour ago, lapal_fan said:

2nd weigh in today (or the day I weighed myself last week..).

Another 5lbs off.

10.5lbs in 2 weeks. 

To be fair, I've been golden.  I had a bit of my son's white chocolate Lilly thing on Tuesday, but apart from that, way less carbs (corgetti, butternut squash chips and caulk rice to replace carbs), no alcohol (don't drink any anyway mostly) means my calorie count is really protein heavy (about 1000-1250 a day).

Cravings of rubbish has mostly stopped and I'm feeling much fillet with fewer things in me.  Try and keep it going next week when we're in France.

1000-1250 calories? That sounds pretty low for what is usually recommended afaik. I think its mostly recommended to get about 1800-2200 or so for men to lose weight or the body goes into "power saving" mode and wont burn off fat.

When it comes to protein, based on what I've read, its good to get 100-140 grams of protein per day, at least for men. Edit: for losing weight.

Not NHL specific but in finnish hockey league "my team" Ilves (Lynx in english) is leading the quarter-finals 3-2 in their set, four wins to advance, against their fierce local rivals who's been much more succesful in recent years. Most, if not vast majority of fans and pundits gave them very little chances to even win one game against their opponents, who won the championship in the last season and the regular season this year, while Ilves was the last team to qualify to "wild card"-playoffs (which they obviously won). Most of the Ilves' fans are just enjoying the ride as long as it lasts with the mentality "Let's see one game at a time".

A little bit of background, Ilves has very similar history as Aston Villa, used to be one of the most succesful teams/clubs in the "ancient times", but the last championship was in 1985, they got silver in 1990 and 1998 and then bronze in 1989 and 2001. Beside those they've been in lower half or bottom of the league. They were owned by rich finnish-american businessman who's pumped in the money occasionally to keep the team running, but it's been mismanaged pretty damn horribly since the 90s, and most fans grew to be very disgruntled...sound familiar?

Fortunately, he finally sold the team to local businessmen earlier this year, and the new chairman is legendary ex-player who's considered to know what he's doing, and there's whole new buzz and optimism around the place and fans. Let's hope both Ilves and AVFC will get back to the old success in the years to come (Sooner the better!)

Note: I wonder why I seem to pick the teams or clubs who've been succesful in the past with rich history, but less so in recent years.

23 hours ago, LancsVillan said:

Good goal - yes, indeed is there ever a 'bad' goal if you support that team. However, there is no way it is 'amazing' as per the description, the keeper has it covered but for that last second bobble off the pitch

Yeah, that's why I said decent

We had so much better team even ten years ago, shit managers haven't certainly helped. I think biggest disappointment from our managers for me was probably Paatelainen, he had very good season in Scotland before he took charge of our national team, but his squad selections and tactics were regularly pretty confusing.

39 minutes ago, PaulC said:

Its interesting that at the time Vic Crowe was sacked Brian Clough applied for the job. I know we achieved great things under Ron but would we have had even greater success under Brian clough. If you think what he did at forest, Villa a much bigger club, he could have made us into a Liverpool, but we'll never know.

 

Winning the title and the European cup should have been the platform for us to go on and have continued success but it wasn't we just went downhill until the great Graham Taylor arrested the situation and theres one man to blame for that imo. Well maybe the Bendalls too.

I don't think Clough would've lasted long in Villa, especially with Deadly Doug. No idea how other board members in Villa were at the time though.

Finnish Fredrik Jensen scored decent goal on his debut against Austria. The game tempo wasn't that great, but finns played a bit more direct than against Turkey and surprise surprise, we played better.

Patrik Laine have been having amazing season, feels good to have great finnish goal scorer first time really since Selanne.

7 hours ago, VillaChris said:

Yes 98-2004 was Finland's best chance of making a tournament as you had major stars in Litmanen, Hyypia, good keepers in Jussi and Anti Niemi and a solid core with likes of Forssell, Tainio, Johnathan Johannsson, Kuqi all decent players in the English league.

It reminds me of Iceland now....a major star in Glyfi and a decent core of reliable solid players.

Looking at the current Finland side very little to be excited of given Eremenko is banned now. Pukki did little at Celtic. I did see Joel Pohjanpalo score a hat-trick for Leverkusen start of the season, is he seen as your best prospect by a mile?

Probably, Pukki is not completely lost cause but I remember reading comments that he's not exactly most enthuatistic about training. Most of our promising youths goes to hockey which is understamdable.

Our big problem has always been incostistency, we might win Portugal 2-0 and next lose to Moldova 2-0.