Parky

Best of his generation? Okay, surely you must understand what we mean when we say Spurs fans massively over-rate their players. Individual attributes mean nothing really, it's performances that matter and his are certainly over-rated. For example, what do you think of his attempted 'tackle' on Fabregas for their 2nd goal against you? If somebody in my 6-a-side team did that I'd **** have a right go, forget a Premier League footballer. Nobody has seen enough of King to have a clue, he has only made 30+ Premier League starts in a season 2 imes in 12 years. Ashley Young made a last ditch tackle against PJS when we played United last year. I'm telling ya, that lads the best defender of his generation. OK then, you clearly dont have a clue about football. Why despite games have successive England manager (including Capello) insisted on including him, even playing him as holding midfielder despite his knee and at the expense of a fit Jamie Carragher. Cant wait for this. Because Carragher has retired from international football. That was why Carragher quit. Honestly, dont get involved if you don't have a clue.

Best of his generation? Okay, surely you must understand what we mean when we say Spurs fans massively over-rate their players. Individual attributes mean nothing really, it's performances that matter and his are certainly over-rated. For example, what do you think of his attempted 'tackle' on Fabregas for their 2nd goal against you? If somebody in my 6-a-side team did that I'd **** have a right go, forget a Premier League footballer. Nobody has seen enough of King to have a clue, he has only made 30+ Premier League starts in a season 2 imes in 12 years. Ashley Young made a last ditch tackle against PJS when we played United last year. I'm telling ya, that lads the best defender of his generation. OK then, you clearly dont have a clue about football. Why despite the lack of games have successive England manager (including Capello) insisted on including him, even playing him as holding midfielder despite his knee and at the expense of a fit Jamie Carragher. Cant wait for this.

Remember it well, as I say he was a really, really good player

OK take one part of the sentence and just ignore the rest....Nice. So tell me if King isnt the best of his generation, tell me where the weekeness in his game lies? Pace? Heading? Tackling? Or maybe you just havent seen him that often so you dont have a clue:

Honestly mate read over what I wrote and see where I have said King is as good as McGrath. I compared the two due to their injury record and inability to train / stay off the booze. All I did was defend King when you said he was not fit to lace McGraths boots, which he clearly is. I have seen both play on numerous occasions and to say there is a huge golf in class is just not true Im afraid.

Mabs and McGrath were different types of defender completely. Mabs was a blood and thunder defender, who wore his heart on his sleeve. Spurs legend but never as talented as Mcgrath. King is a different kettle of fish to Mabs, he has all the attributes that Mabs didn't snd had to make up for with sheer endevour.

Of course not, he isn't a member of the sky four. However his qualities are there for all to see, as a team we have won 12% more of games with him in the team than without him. He is quick, has good distribution, is a good tackler and is good in the air. I really dont see what there is not to rate about him apart from his torrid time with his knee. I watched McGrath play in my younger years and don't get me wrong he was good, really good but I feel he is elevated to this god like status because of his injuries and his ability to play absolutly hammered

I love the way certain players gain this mythical status after a few years out of the game. "He was seven foot tall you know, strong as a lion"

King is the new McGrath. Doesnt train, plays wicked once a week, then falls out of somewhere legless of an evening.

Of course you have taken into account the 70 odd million in player sales we have made in that time too? And of Course O'Neil assembled your squad using vouchers he collected on packs of Walkers. Spurs are self sufficient any money we spend, we generate so dont compare us with City eh? Just makes you look stupid.

Erm mate, we have lower attendances because we have a smaller ground. We sell out pretty much every week you cant do more than that. By the way, if you had offered that swap pre season I would have probably taken it.

Its been a weird season to be honest. Modric being out has been a big blow and it has taken a while to find a system to work without him (although the straight swap for Niko seemed obvious to most of us). We played stoke off the park and got nothing and undeservedly took the points from Sunderland. You are right though, we have only played well for 90mins in a couple of games this season. We were woeful against the Goons but we were missing Defoe, Lennon and Modric, three of our most influencial players. The fact we are in third when we are up and down bodes well because if we settle in and hit our stride hopefully we will have enough cross the line before Pool / City. That said the fact that the prem is so woeful this year it means stuttering teams like Liverpool and City will continue to pick up points keeping them in touch for when they finally hit form.

Funny because a good percentage of the Fleet street mob are goons and Spammers so we get it in the neck as much as we get praised. Most of the time its the media are saying "Spurs for top 4", then later, when we inevitably fail they love to say. "Deluded Spurs fans demand top 4". Most Spurs fans I speak to would be happy with top 6-8.

I read the article and, fair enough, amongst the paragraphs of bemoaning the ref there was a small nod toward our performance. To be fair both of our goals were debatable, Dawsons was somewhere between the chest and shoulder and Defoe's was headed at him from about two yards away. Either way sitting there bemoaning refereeing decisions when you were pretty much played off the park sounds to me very much like someone who is clutching at straws.

Hello, Spurs fan here. I normally read opposing fans forums before we play them but I rarely feel the need to sign up. However a few threads on here caused me to raise an eyebrow and sign up. First up: Why the anti Spurs sentiment? I have glanced through this thread and can find no real reason except for our fans being considered in some way arrogant. (Ever met a Man utd / Arsenal fan???) I really have nothing against Villa, I think you and Everton are on a par with us club size wise and we are all battling for a place in the "Sky four" but I certainly would never say I hated Villa. Certainly not compared to Arsenal or West Ham. Surely you should be concentrating on Birmingham, Wolves and West Brom. 2nd: Redknapp. I was never his greatest fan before Spurs due to his West Ham connection. Why all the grief from your lot? 3rd: That fella who has written your match report on the front page, trying to make out you were hard done by? Embarrassing. I know Villa bias on a Villa site is to be expected but I couldn't help but laugh as I read it. We deserved all three on Saturday but our nervy start cost us, even the most one-eyed of Villain would agree. Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season, it would be great to see the Goons and the scouse out of the top four.