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1 minute ago, Django_Zooms said:

List potential managers: John Terry, Frank Lampard, John Terry & Frank Lampard, Paolo Fonseca, Ronald Koeman, Roberto Martinez, Steve Bruce, Sam Allardyce, most Watford coaches in the last decade.

Try for Erik ten hag, but realisticly it's John terry to come back. Perhaps that's why he left  biding his time

Watkins could be shot with a sniper rifle in the box by moyes and we still wouldn't get a penalty. 

Brucie's available 

1 minute ago, AvonVillain said:

Beundia straight down the tunnel. Squad doesn't look happy.

Yeah something is up. You'd think he'd go to the bench with his team mates. 

Bit of.confidence...push on now

Cracking finish. 

33 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

But I do agree and find it a bit odd that his former teammates are congratulation him on the move.

It does indicate they all kind of look on Aston Villa as a development arena, and clubs like Man City being the main destination should you succeed.

Goes straight against what the owners are trying to build. They want us to  become elite, just like Man City.

I would just say good luck on your new challenge. Not congratulations.

The owners are building it, it'll just take time. 

This is the really difficult part - the time when as a club you are getting close to be challenging for top 4 but not quite there yet. 

When we are a regular top 4 it'll be less of a problem, players will have less desire to leave. 

It will still happen, but they won't view us as a development area as much once we can really challenge for things. 

4 minutes ago, AVFCforever1991 said:

This on the screens at villa Park when he returns to play against us please

3 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

So, NSWE are no different to previous regimes and mediocre clubs who sell their best players to the top clubs.

Good to know when this happens again next Summer with Martinez.

Be 'Prepared for failure' should be our new motto.

This is just it though isn't it? 

If we can't keep Jack, next year martinez & watkins, if buendia has a good season he'll be gone too.. 

We were utterly awful for the couple of months when Jack got injured this year.. 

I can't say I'll be looking forward to watching that.. If we can't keep our best players, really, what is the point? 

7 minutes ago, smg said:

A very positive way of looking at it, but if Jack wants to go , Jack will go, do we need a potentially half arsed resentful player, regardless of his back story  or £100 mill that we could invest in replacements that are fully focused on moving the club forwards ? There is no doubt he is a Villa man but he possibly wants more than we as a club can offer at this time in his career, it’s a shame but we have to look to the future as a club  not as a player.

It all depends on the contract and the release clause. 

If there is no release clause, and I owned rhe villa, and had 30 odd billion in the bank, he'd be going nowhere. 

I simply wouldn't care about the 100m or so fee. I wouldn't care about the wages. 

If he didn't want to play, I'd make him serve the beers in the holte end for the next 4 years. 

These players need to honour thier contracts - or am I the only one bothered about that anymore? 

3 minutes ago, Eastie said:

Jack is aware of all this speculation - would have been nice for him to put out a one line comment along the lines of ‘ looking forward to getting back to villa next week and an exciting season ahead “ - not gonna happen though . 

It would - but if, as I hope, this is all his agent creating the possibility of him leaving to get a huge new contract out of villa, he can't come out and say he's staying just yet - that would lose his leverage in any contract negotiations. 

My take is he never was leaving, but wants a new contract close to what fellow England stars have at thier clubs. 

Best way to get that is for his agent to convince the villa owners he is minutes away from joining City ;  villa come back with their very best offer to keep him. Jack signs and buys a new range rover. Every week. 

I don't think he's going, it's a new contract he wants. 

13 minutes ago, Spoony said:

It is a bit typical Villa fan that we’ve spent most of Jack’s time at Villa worrying he would leave.

Modern football is transactional for everyone involved. Just enjoy players whilst we have them, move on when they leave. I mean Christ even Man Utd can’t always hold onto their stars. 

True, but then the Man Utd's have 7 or 8 'stars' , it doesn't matter too much if you loose 1 , and move another 1 in.

We have 1 'star' and I can't remember having had another one for the last 15 years.

Unfortunately if Jack were at another club right now do you think we could go out and buy him ?  

I think this is made all the worse because we all know football is all about money and has been a closed shop for the last 20 years or so. 

The only way we could realistically get a player of Jack's stature would be for us to bring them through the youth system - and that takes years.  

So now we have Jack, this type of player can help us bring others in, bring up the profile of the club etc.. So to lose him now will have far more of an effect than just what he does on the pitch.

8 minutes ago, Rodders said:

He's a young lad, is he supposed to get every statement he makes correct regardless of future decisions over the course of his future? He'll always be a villan at heart. If he leaves I wouldn't be surprised to see him come back either. 

football fans get so tribal sometimes. 

 

Not for me - If he goes, I wouldn't want him back.

And all this 'He's already shown us loyalty' nonsense - It goes both ways. We as a club/supporters have supported him in his dream career since he was 7.  We've paid him most probably millions of pounds to play football, he's been coached by the club, invested in by the club and its the club that had made his career possible.

But now he's at the top of his game (and 1 year into a 5 year massive contract) earning more in a week than most of those who support him will earn in a year, probably 2 years, he might turn round and leave ? 

I'm sure it wasn't all that long ago I was looking pictures of  him face down in the street in Tenerife - good job we continued to support him isnt it ?

42 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

Same as the potential for them to sponsor us at over market value to pump money in to the club - Adidas are too big a company with Wes having too little a share for them to play that game 

Adidas won't do us any favours 

Possibly but it's the theory really.

Substitube addidas for any other company nas/wes own or have an interest in. 

Or they start a new one. 

20 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

Well he is employed by Aston Villa, so he couldn't receive half a wage from a separate company.

Yeah you can have as many jobs as you like.

He would maybe get a nice sponsorship deal from addidas worth 100k a week,only payable whilst he plays for villa - or something similar.

Or work as a football advisor to nas   on a football project in Egypt..  nas can pay him whatever he likes.

I do think ffp would consider this flouting the rules- whether it breaks them or not is another matter.

The best bet would be an addidas sponsorship - would be a good way to use nas ' stake in the company. 

If we suddenly see him in loads of addidas adverts and on billboards, you know what's going on! 

Agh almost one he'll of a debut

Jack's passing is just perfect. 

Martinez what a hero 

Get in ollie

.. 

1 minute ago, MotoMkali said:

Literally the exact same thing happened vs city and they gave it. 

This is it though isn't it? I don't care if they call it a pen or not a pen, so long as its the same for everyone. 

And it isn't. 

Of course it's no penalty. No replays, nothing to see here. 

I thinking konsa batters rashford. 

And the capitulation begins

Luke Shaw always in acres of space.. Someone please have a word with traore

1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said:

Lol

I've just done exactly them same

What do I know