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  1. Knocked out by a flimsy jab :crylaugh:

    You do know his (Griffin's) jaw was fully dislocated by that point though?

    And?

    People have fought with broken jaws before.

    Knocked out by a jab thrown by a guy going backwards :lol:

  2. Just as quick? :lol: He wasn't even quicker than Hatton, let alone Khan. Khan is one of the P4P fastest boxers in the world.

    He has such a good boxing brain that he allowed his trainer to teach him a style that was all wrong for him? Good one.

    Khan would beat Malignaggi with his jab, his jab is world class and would be the difference between them. It would also set up the flurries which would land with ease on Paulie.

    Probably the easiest fight for Khan out of any of the names at 140.

  3. Yeah, and how do you define 'best prospect in the world'?

    ...Because if you seriously think Nathan Cleverly is 'the best prospect in the world' you ain't got a clue about boxing. Sure, he's a good fighter, but Cleverly isn't even the best prospect in Wales.

    tell me of a better prospect then??? and in wales?? lol.

    A better prospect in world boxing?

    Rigondeaux, Jacobs, Ward, Alexander, Peterson, Korobov, Sutherland, DeGale, Saunders, Gavin, Lara etc etc

    Even Gamboa, Juanma, Berto, Linares, Khan if they still count as prospects.

  4. Stick him up against Prescott again and he will knock his block off whats happened to him recently? i thought he was going to be the next big thing and wont khan need to fight him to get his belts back?

    What belts?

    Prescott and Khan fought at 135.

    They're both going to 140 now, so either if there were important belts on the line, they're gone now.

  5. The fight against Barrera proved NOTHING about Amir Khan. Barrera has been shot for a while now and had a gaping gash on his forehead. People should be worried that MAB mannaged to wobble him with a shitty little jab. Khan (and more importantly, Frank Warren) want nothing to do with the top 135lbs fighters such as Edwin Valero, Casamayor or even Katsidis because Warren will lose his cashcow. He'll try to get him a world title this weekend and if by some grace of God wins, will match him very carefully against light hitters or shot people who still have a 'name' which is likely where all the talk of Hatton is coming from.

    He'll have mandatories to take care of.

    And Maidana is his mandatory. So careful matchmaking is out of the question if he wants to keep his belt.

  6. Hasn't he been training in mma for 2 or 3 years though? That's different. Give certain mma fighters 2 or 3 years proper boxing training and I'm sure they'd be pretty good at that too.

    He doesn't train in MMA, just fights in MMA. He hasn't bothered to learn anything about it.

  7. I'm not saying they could beat a boxer. But there's no way a boxer could beat an mma fighter at mma either, not a world class one anyway.

    As I said, 2 different sports.

    Ray Mercer just KO'd former UFC champion Tim Sylvia in 9 seconds under MMA rules. So how is there no way it could happen?

  8. Yes because a boxer can thrive in a boxing match. They work within the rules and restrictions of boxing. This is what they're trained to do.

    In a MMA bout, they can still do everything that they could in a boxing match. They're not restricted in anyway. But the difference being the MMA'er is not restricted either.

    If you were a great boxer, you wouldn't go into MMA, because the money is better in boxing at the moment. But MMA is catching up. UFC 100 was the biggest ever and the sport is going from strength to strength, even in this country. Perhaps in a few years we will see a few boxer in the octagon?

    I think Enzo Maccarinelli is talking about going to MMA in the future. Would be interesting to see whether he can make any waves.

    Alternatively Fedor victim Arlovski who was famed for his stand up skills is coming to boxing and working under Roach. Apparently he's really struggling. Can't see him getting very far with his china chin.

  9. It would depend on who they were fighting, but I actually think a MMA fighter would have a better chance in a boxing match than vice versa. All a boxer can do is punch, so the mma fighter would just take him down and neutralise his only threat. Where as in boxing, yes the boxer would ultimately win, but the mma fighter would be able to use his punches.

    MMA fighters can't box anywhere near to the standard of a boxer though. They can't punch properly, they don't fight out of the correct stance, they pull back in straight lines.

    A world class MMA fighter would NEVER beat a world class boxer at boxing. A boxer could beat a world class MMA fighter in MMA, we've seen it in the last two weeks.

  10. It's a stupid comparison though.

    No a ufc fighter probably couldn't beat a boxer in a boxing match. But that's like saying "Well messi's really good at what he does, but I bet he couldn't beat the world squash champion in a game of squash."

    Brock lesnar couldn't beat the heavyweight boxing champion in a boxing match. But similarly the boxer would get his arse handed to him in the octagon.

    They are different sports. Brock walked into the UFC and did well because he was one of the best college wrestlers ever. That's real wrestling. His WWE didn't really have anything to do with it.

    Thing is, a boxer would have a punchers chance in an MMA match.

    A UFC fighter would have NO CHANCE in a boxing match.

  11. Well there's somebody here claiming Lesnar would beat Heavyweight champions in boxing matches, thought you might be agreeing.

    Anderson Silva's boxing match is on dailymotion, watch it, it's **** hilarious, he's shite, all arms and legs.

    I agree that Lesnar would beat them all in the octagon. Give a world class boxer and kickboxer like Vitali Klit some defence takedown training though and he'd have a chance.

  12. I don't see why the boxers don't get involved and show everyone how tough they are.

    Nobody really knows whether Lesnar has a good chin. If he does, then those heavyweights wouldn't stand a chance. I think the heavyweight division is the only one that lacks a bit of finesse UFC. The others are brimming with talent at the moment.

    Stand a chance in what? All the heavyweights would smash Lesnar in a boxing match.

    You ever seen Anderson Silva in a boxing match? He got beat by a journeyman. Particular highlight was when he tried the Ali shuffle and got smashed in the chin :lol:

  13. Tim Sylvia's a stand up fighter who'd dominate most MMA fighters if they weren't allowed to go to the ground. He lasted 9 seconds with a boxing OAP when he tried the same.

    There's a difference between giving and taking a punch in MMA and giving and taking a punch in boxing.

    Lesnar would lose by early stoppage against any top 100 HW in boxing. He'd be badly, badly outskilled.

    MMA fighters don't throw real punches and they can't fight out of a proper boxing stance.

  14. Just because he came from WWE doesn't mean that he isn't for real. He cleaned up in wrestling in college and is an absolute animal.

    For what it's worth, I could easilly see him beating some of the champions at heavyweight.

    :crylaugh:

    Beat them in a boxing match? :lol:

    Did you see what happened when an MMA fighter tried to stand up with Ray Mercer?

  15. I'll agree with your point about Henderson's second hit Donnie, but not much else.. That was disgraceful. He knew Bisping was out and put his whole **** weight behind that. Hits like that can end careers and lives.

    The reason UFC ruffles boxing fans feathers is because boxers like to think they're the toughest guys on the planet, but they're not. These MMA guys are. And the money and buzz is shifting towards the UFC now.

    UFC will go the same way as boxing eventually.

    It'll be a victim of it's own success, they'll start leaning towards padding records, big fights with much poorer fights on the undercard etc.

    Boxers are still the elite, incredibly skilled. You wouldn't get a WWE wrestler walk into boxing and win a title after 4 fights.

    UFC is boxing for dummies really.

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