NeilS

Has Glaston not been on since?

Classic head under a rock till you win syndrome again then!

Not that I've seen.

That is nothing though, the season under Ramos when they nearly went down he vanished for about 3 months.

It's classic Spurs fan behaviour. I used to get no end of grief during the mid to late 80's from my Spurs supporting school friends. They went very quiet in the early 90's when we gave them a few 5 goal poundings. One even disowned Spurs and said he no longer supported them after the 5-2 win at WHL. That is why I hate Spurs with such a passion. Most Spurs fans are quiet most of the time, but a slight hint of success and they're the cockiest bunch you'll ever find!

Have you read the posts by Villa fans in this thread? All the reasons the Villa fans cite for hating Spurs fans are constantly on display by the Villa posters in this thread. I'm not saying it's all those posting here, but for every Glaston, there are 20 Villa contributors to this thread that are just as bad and often worse. I stuck up for Glaston a while ago and do feel he's not treated particuarly fairly, but at the same time, I don't think he's done himself any fabours in with his repsonses in the last few months. But it's a bit mental to call Spurs fans "the cockiest bunch you'll ever find" when you post at Villatalk. I'm not saying all Villa fans are cocky, but this certianly isn't the ideal forum in which to accuse another fan base of being so. It' like the KKK accusing the Nazi's of racism.

I can only go on my own memories, and sadly Spurs fans have been the cockiest around in my living memory, maybe it is just the area of the country I live in?

Yes you'll find cocky Villa fans on here, because it is a Villa fans website so strangely enough we'll outnumber Spurs fans on here. You'll also find lots of Villa fans on here who are far from cocky, and talk about Villa's hopes in a very realistic way.

Has Glaston not been on since?

Classic head under a rock till you win syndrome again then!

Not that I've seen.

That is nothing though, the season under Ramos when they nearly went down he vanished for about 3 months.

It's classic Spurs fan behaviour. I used to get no end of grief during the mid to late 80's from my Spurs supporting school friends. They went very quiet in the early 90's when we gave them a few 5 goal poundings. One even disowned Spurs and said he no longer supported them after the 5-2 win at WHL. That is why I hate Spurs with such a passion. Most Spurs fans are quiet most of the time, but a slight hint of success and they're the cockiest bunch you'll ever find!

I think Hamann still wants to play hence why he's staying there.

I see he has only recently signed a 1 year player coaching deal with MK Dons, he may choose to join up with us at the end of the season when his contract expires.

The usual route is to speak to manager you want, see if they're interested. Give them the nod, they quit their job out of the blue, then get employed within a week. Managers old team claim tapping up, new team say proove it. Manager then gets Judas taunts thrown at him whenever his teams turns up to play his previous club. That is how the football world works imo.

I fall into the happy category. I think he'll do alright here, I'm not 100% sure whether he'll attain the top 4 position that we crave as it is harder now than it was 6 years ago, but he has as good a chance as many of the candidates listed.

It will be interesting to see a bit more invention in the transfer market. Hopefully he can unearth the next Zidane for us, and by that I don't mean the Togolese Zidane.

Oh and on Jol he hasn't failed at a club he's been at yet, he has left those clubs in very good condition after he has departed. He is also well regarded by the clubs he's managed so far. Hughes the same, did a great job at Wales, Blackburn and was hard done by at City considering his replacement failed to get 4th too. Moyes has done well at Everton on zero budget too.

So none have had failures of the level Houllier ended at Liverpool. THAT is my worry.

If by failures you mean winning trophies. Then yes none of Jol, Moyes and Hughes have had the same amount of failures as Houllier.

What's more important? That we might sign a few shite Frenchmen or that we might win a few trophies? People seem hell-bent on criticising someone who wins things. It must be very therapeutic for them but Villa live in the real world and, if we get him, we will have hired above ourselves IMO.

I agree, I don't recall Villa ever hiring a manager in the past who has won as much silverware in their career. Fingers crossed that he may add to that tally in his time here.

Donadoni done well at Livorno and got more from Italy team than Lippi did. I would take him. He might speak English as he played in New York which is also a bonus

I'm confused by this statement. Didn't Lippi win the World Cup with Italy?

Honest to god, if it is Curbishley, I'll be finished with the Villa and my ST will go back.

You think of any candidate, and there are pros and cons.

The likes of Moyes, Jol etc. - obviously more pros

The Koemans, Svens - about as many pros than cons

Even the likes of Phil Brown, Dave Jones and McDonaald - mainly cons, but I can think of some pros

Curbishley - sorry - there are NO pro's

Oh, sorry - I've thought of three

1. He is cheap

2. He is a yes man

3. He won't want money.

Seriously, him and that is it !

youve shown ur true colours there mate.

Whooooooooooooah there matey boy.

Season ticket holder since 1983

Have you ? if so you may remember the next quote

"Joining Villa was the biggest mistake of my career"

by

A Mr A. Curbishley

True colours - what a f...ing cheek !

I was there when we got relegated against Norwich (or was it Wednesday the week after - cant remember now) , I was standing at Swindon when we nearly had another Hillsborough (well first as it hadnt happened yet) , I was with us when Jo venglos couldn't understand us, I have been there through a fecking lot of thin.

maybe, I've just had enough of spending £850 on ST's, £40 per fortnight on petrol, £20 per fortnight on food / drink, around £200 on cup tickets (plus the fuel) , plus around £600 a yera on away trips and the rest !

Put it this way , when you went 25yrs without missing a home game, 9 years without missing a domestic away game, and 4 yrs without missing a Euro away game.

THEN FECKING SHOW YOUR TRUE COLOURS

Twonk

That's hilarious. I hope we appoint Curbishley just to see your reaction.

It could be worse.... they could appoint Steve Hodge

Had MON timed it better then from what I'm hearing Mark Hughes would have been in situ, but no way would we want

a manager to walk out on a club he's just joined that would be a dishonourable act as the General has alluded to.

I'm sure MON thinks he timed it perfectly.

Exactly - deliberately leaving when we had no other options to fall back on. In any other line of work if you leave without giving your notice period its a serious disciplinary issue.

Can you be sacked for doing so? :?

I guess the only option is to seek compensation from MON for not giving proper notice. If the boot was on the other foot MON would want compensating if he was sacked without a years notice as stipulated in his contract. I doubt that Randy will follow this route though as it doesn't help our current predicament.

So, on this page alone we have Klinsman, Van Gaal ...and Coppell!!

One of these I would not be happy with!

Let me guess..... you don't want Klinsmann, you haven't forgiven him for his headbutt attack on Bosnich's knee all those years ago?

All these top managers being mentioned on here, I think people ought to get real and realise what is happening at the club

If you mean regarding the cost cutting, and managing within our means, then I think we're in the same boat as 18 of the other 20 Premiership teams. Only Man City and Chelsea have any money it seems.

What's Venables up to these days ?

Last seen making dodgy adverts (for Mars) about believing England would win the World Cup.

Just announced a new deal with FIAT on the OS.

Just read that. Anyone who knows how much it's worth? Or if FIAT will be on the back as is shown on the OS?

I don't think having a sponsor on the back of the shirt would be allowed in the Premiership. I think they have done that just for show. They will take over from Seat, which means they will have their name plastered about the ground, on the board behind the MotD interview spot, and in the match day programmes etc.

One of the things that annoys me most about this Milner situation is, that only about 6-8 months ago Milner was singing MON and Villa's praises. He was basically saying how playing for a settled club with a settled manager, not a manager conveyor belt like at Newcastle, was improving his game. Now 6 months down the line, Man City wave a wad of cash at him and those thoughts leave his mind, the manager conveyor belt won't be a problem for him anymore, because let's face it Mancini will probably be fired by Christmas if they don't look like getting Champs League.

Footballers eh, imo you can't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

It amuses me how people are badmouthing Cruise's time.

They've only JUST started using the KIA. The best time is going to be beaten a lot until there's loads of names on the board. Fair enough if tghey'd been using the KIA for 2 years and then he came on and spanked it by a second you could have your doubts.

Why would they fix it? They didn't fix it for Mark Wahlberg and he's a Hollywood star.

This is exactly what I said to my Wife. Also if they were going to fix it, they would not break the record by over a second.

I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for Milly in any of this.

MON was entitled to do what he did, if that is the true and accurate version of events, which i believe it to be.

It is quite clear he wants to go, and MON has just confirmed that. Nothing more. At least the fans know the situation now, however much Milly didn't want us to

Exactly, it is what MM hinted at a few weeks back. Milner is now trying to cover himself in my opinion.

I'd like to add that we owe no favours to Man City, especially after they mucked us about with the Richard Dunne transfer last summer.

Oh, great.

Football can **** right off for me at the moment.

This in a big way. Bring in a **** salary cap FFS. Lots of team sports around the world have. No, the Sky 4 and FA wouldn't allow it. Bad for the Asian market.

Sadly that is true. The only way to make the league competitive again is cap squad size and salaries for the squads, which will level the playing field in an instant. Won't happen though as the big 4 will threaten breakaway league.

Bigger players have left before,

This is how I see it. We've lost better players in the past, we'll move on and another player will become fans favourite. If we can get £25-£30m then it will be great business for the club and allow us to build again.

I just hope we don't waste £8-£10m of our Milner funds on Scott Parker. I'm hoping that is a diversionary tactic while we line up bigger targets.

Young won't leave, they even built a cartoon character on him.

I was thinking the same, he has been involved in a lot of the summer promo stuff. I hope he doesn't leave, though you can never be certain.

Haven't got time to check as I am off to work, but apparently Boruc has just signed for an italian side that Frey plays for (is it Fiorinitina ?)

Weren't we linked with Frey (or Frei ?)

He has and we were. We'll soon find out if there was anything to it.

I personally think Frey will be Arsenal bound...

Me too, although I did see that Arsenal were linked with a bid for Schwarzer of Fulham a couple of days ago so you never know.

I remember watching the Liverpool v Everton cup match a year or so ago. last minute of extra time, ITV blunder into an ad break only to return back to the match to see Everton players rolling on the floor celebrating the last minute winner. After that the option of the BBC is the only one for me.

That was shocking. Truely shocking.

Amazed Sky were not allowed this World Cup at all. Obviously the games needed to be available terrestrially, but I'd have thought SKY would have tried harder to get the games aswell as BBC/ITV.

I guess FIFA want all of the games available to everyone to watch. Otherwise Sky would have blown all other bids out of the water. I kind of agree with that view, as it is unfair to not have World Cup games available to everyone in the world with a TV.

And they missed Gerrard vs the USA.

eh?

Well I saw it

It is true, I heard on ITV HD channel the coverage cut out. The mother in law was complaining about that. Hehehe.

There is no option other than BBC!!!

No advert breaks, better pundits and most importantly no james corden

I remember watching the Liverpool v Everton cup match a year or so ago. last minute of extra time, ITV blunder into an ad break only to return back to the match to see Everton players rolling on the floor celebrating the last minute winner. After that the option of the BBC is the only one for me.

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Manchester City are set to return to Aston Villa with an offer in the region of £24m for James Milner and at the same time make it clear that they have no intention of meeting the Midlands club's asking price for the England international, which is closer to the £30m mark.

City, who had a £20m bid for Milner rejected in May, remain determined to sign the former Leeds United trainee but are prepared to turn their attention elsewhere if Villa stick to their higher valuation.

Milner held talks with Villa about his future before heading to the World Cup and is not due to return to the club until 25 July, after being given an extended break following his return from South Africa.

Villa are keen for the 24-year-old to extend his stay at the club but they have yet to make a new contract offer to improve his existing £45,000-per-week deal. City would be in a position to offer double that sum

24million? Would you accept?

As unwilling sellers then I'd accept no less than what we originally asked. Otherwise we're being bullied into selling our best players. I also say no to deals involving add ons. They have just agreed to pay a player over £200k per week for 5 years, they can pay us up front in my opinion.