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8 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said:

What does that prove ? Millions have died from lung cancer without ever being near a cigarette, but I don't think you'll find anyone denying that there's a link between cigarettes and cancer. 

No one is saying heading a football will cause dementia, but it may well increase your chances of getting it. And if that is the case, then it needs to be addressed asap. 

Passive smoking my friend. 

6 minutes ago, nick76 said:

when I have said Ollie should play wide?  never, so no I'm not debunking myself.

if you are trying to claim nobody else plays then Origi and Jota say hi!!!

Origi is a very weak defence of your argument. And quite why anyone would think of moving Ollie from CF to a wide position is beyond me, beyond reason. Watkins at CF is one of the single biggest factors of our successful football, the high and intense pressing of CBs by Watkins being integral to our game, not to mention the boy can score. It’s why there’s rumour of Liverpool interest. 

1 hour ago, brummybloke said:

How many new fans will jack generate from this euros and next year's World Cup? I would say half the kids at school probably will have Jack as their favourite player by the end of the euros.

That means that some of those go on to support villa. 

A bigger fan base means more commercial revenue.

Casual football fans who support a team due to a player 

This would be the first time we have a ' star' who will generate his own wage and then some.

Has a good world Cup and all of a sudden he's in Beckham marketability territory.

It's ultra important we keep him for both footballing and commercial value.

Man City isn't a project any more, its a buy everyone good from a rival, steam roller. The fun and excitement has ended for fans. It's now a see how many points we can win the league by pretty much year on year.

With the money jack will earn here, there or where ever, I think first and foremost is that he wants the excitement of playing and winning.

At man City the excitement of winning when it's expected every game would soon go and there is also no guarantee he would be playing anywhere near the amount he does at villa.

The ball is in villas hands in keeping him.

Sign 2 or 3 players to push us on and we qualify for Europe, he stays and is happy. 

Tread water or go backwards, he leaves. So signing 2 or 3 more big players this season for a further £100 million could pay for itself many times over after the world Cup.

Good post. Who was the last player to sit on the England bench and have his name called for by the fans in the stadium?! Jack is now already a huge commercial asset in the game, that will only grow. Villa simply cannot afford to sell him. End of. He’s already got the hearts and minds of the British public, he’s the only name ppl want to talk about. With hopefully 3 more games left of the Euros, he could well cement his place amongst the elite. Neutrals and casual football fans across Europe will be wearing Grealish shirts. Massive 

On 30/06/2021 at 02:44, RJA1703 said:

People have been falling over themselves this Euros talking about Renato Sanchez. To me, he looks like a carbon copy of our Dougie. 

Are you kidding?! Sanches has displayed pace and power, with the ability to win the ball in central midfield and carry it or find a pass. Not to mention what looks like a blistering shot on him. Obviously they play slightly different roles, as Luiz has operated for us as DCM and Sanches is very definitely a CM. So maybe an unfair comparison. If Jose wants to put £30m in our hand to take Luiz to Roma, I have to say I wouldn’t be too down hearted, especially  if he’s not extending his contract, in which case we should look to sell. 

8 hours ago, nick76 said:

I watched one of those super yacht programs about two months ago so my knowledge went from zero to a bit.  My jealously went from zero to 100%.  Anyway quite a few do.  There is a lot of secrecy as well around it all.  If I had a Super yacht I’d be telling all you mofos, every day in every thread

Just one example being Abrahmovic who has ‘Sussuro’ and the magnificent ‘Eclipse’.  He did own others at various times.  Just googled to check I spelt Sussuro right and there is a rumour that his wife may have gotten Sussuro in the divorce but not confirmed but there is one example.

 

Using your example (re, Abrahmovic) it’s clear to me that Watkins is our owners “Eclipse”, whilst Abraham is very much “Sussuro”, Ie, the one they’d give away in a divorce……..

6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

I reckon the likes of Ward Prowse and ESR, will be/have been our A+ category targets ( Not likely, but we'll have a good go ).

The likes of De Arrascaeta, Alvarez, Starr etc, further down the pecking order and much more attainable.

Or it could all be bollox and we pull things from left field.

Isn’t Freddie Starr dead now?

8 hours ago, nick76 said:

My comment was in context of the comment and to be honest his views on football outside the business of football.  It’s not hard to speak sense more than most on TalkShite but many times I’ve thought Jordan is talking rubbish on it.  Just because you are successful in one thing doesn’t mean you are good at another and Jordan tends to show that a lot.

As for your last couple of lines…billionaires tend to have more than one super yacht.

Which billionaires have more than one super yacht? 

12 minutes ago, nick76 said:

Simon Jordan (the idiot) just before 12 on TalkSport said Abraham wouldn’t join us because he would be looking for a top six team and no disrespect to Villa

 

Simon Jordan most definitely is not an idiot, speaks sense far more often than any of the other contributors on that TalkShite with Jim White show. He’s a man who’s been successful in business and has the insight of actually running a football club, dealing with the agents etc. That said, I think he might be wrong if he’s said Abraham wouldn’t join us. But that said, I sincerely hope we’re not in for Abraham. That ship sailed long ago, Villa have since moored their new super yacht in the calmer and warmer waters of Watkins Bay. 

29 minutes ago, nick76 said:

No comment on the rest but if you think Kronke is doing anything, you’re in cloud cuckoo land.  He doesn’t give a damn about what Arsenal fans or football world think about him.

Well, they’ve clearly let friends in the media know that they want to spend big sums this summer……figures of £250m being touted. Spending £50m on a Brighton CB goes some way to corroborating those stories. The proof will obviously be in the pudding, but I think even the Kroenke’s understand the need to try and calm the waters this particular summer. I’d be delighted with the signing of ESR, just don’t see how Arsenal can afford to let it happen.

I’m sorry to bring the cold water to the party, but I simply cannot see how Arsenal could even contemplate allowing this to happen, their fans will be outside the emirates with pitchforks. Kroenke is having to try and put out the fires that are still burning post ESL shambles, letting ESR move to Villa would be the equivalent of pouring petrol onto those fires. And for that reason, I’m out!

1 minute ago, YouUnastanFren said:

We sold him for what we bought him for though iirc. Sheffield United paid over £20m for Berge so I doubt the clause is less than half that.

Not sure I really get the clamour for him to be honest. I'd be delighted if we could sign him for £9m for squad depth obviously but he's not the level of deep lying midfielder I hope we'll be aiming for imo.

I’m in agreement with you on Berge, I don’t think he’s all that. Give me Renato Sanches in CM, he’ll make Luiz shine again at DM.

4 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said:

He won’t come here to sit on the bench though 

Well we got Ashley Young through the door………

On 24/06/2021 at 18:07, Big Salad said:

May be in the minority here lol but how about something based on/similar to the one we wore in the 87-88 season?

My favourite shirt of all time……and I still have the shirt now that my parents bought for me all those years ago! It’s my absolute prize possession 

41 minutes ago, alreadyexists said:

I saw a thing to say Crystal Palace are releasing 22 players, so thought that we could perhaps pick up a player on a free that could help add squad depth… here’s the list:

Brandon Aveiro, Lewis Bryon, Gary Cahill, Nathaniel Clyne, Scott Dann, Kian Flanagan, Kevin Gonzalez, Harlem Hale, Stephen Henderson, Wayne Hennessey, Lewis Hobbs, Rohan Luthra, Alfie Matthews, James McCarthy, Jacob Russell, Jude Russell, Mamadou Sakho, Andros Townsend, Patrick van Aanholt, Joel Ward, Connor Wickham, Samuel Woods.

… but I don’t think there any any there that would be worth going for and that would improve our squad much.

I wouldn’t be against Cahill on a 1yr deal if it’s sensible wages and allows us to spend money elsewhere in the team this summer. We need additional CB cover with Engels leaving, and Cahill is undoubtedly more reliable than Engels, even at his age now. Cahill also brings a wealth of experience and leadership qualities. If he was happy to come in as mainly cover then I’d be ok with that.

35 minutes ago, Dave-R said:

That's is about as spot on as you can get.

The only way Grealish would ever want to move is if a move is forced on him out of here, he's not going to want that as he loves Villa to bits.

As a kid i used to be a fan of baby spice but just because Ginger could maybe offer something abit different doesn't mean I should stop being a fan of baby spice and start wishing for abit of Ginger instead. Sometimes the grass isn't greener and sometimes pulling moves can be worse than what you already have.

Just 5hag them both…..at the same time. 

1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said:

FWIW I think there's better value than JWP elsewhere. As others have asked and answered,  for me I don't think he's a top 6 player. We need to be looking at Tielemans and Ndidi level players.

Villa aren’t yet at the level for a Tielemans, Liverpool are rumoured to want that type of player. And there’d certainly be no more value in Tielemans than JWP, Tielemans is going to cost someone a bucket load of cash to prise him away from Leicester. That aside, there’s going to have to be one or two player purchases where there’s little to no value, we’ll have to pay over the odds to obtain one or two of the “best of the rest”. We can’t look at every purchase as one that HAS to make us a financial profit if we want to pick off teams above us. Man City weren’t worried about future selling fees when they were plucking the likes of Milner, Walker, Sterling, Barry, Lescott, Robinho, Delph etc…….they merely targeted weakening the teams in and around them to further their rise. It was a tactic that worked very well. We’re showing signs of replicating that tactic……if only to p155 off Arsenal.

1 hour ago, robitee said:

Ward-Prowse or Harry Winkes?

1 hour ago, jacketspuds said:

As others have said, this window is going to be even more interesting now to see just how we intend to convince Grealish that he'd be crazy to leave.

If we can bring in a CDM, plus Smith Rowe and Alvarez I think that should do it. Then just a CB either on loan or a young player with lots of potential.

We've been linked to Neco Williams but we don't really need another full-back at this point, and especially not a RB given our squad options.

We’re not getting Smith-Rowe.

If there is any interest in JWP then we can now look at the reported fee being paid for Ben White as something of a low water marker. I think anyone looking to obtain the services of JWP this summer is going to need to pony up £55-60m. 

21 minutes ago, useless said:

We want a defenseive midfielder and like Oriol Romeu, if we can't get him we will have to try and get someone else.

Portugal have got a couple of midfielders of the type that Villa are crying out for……either of Palhinho or Sanches would be fantastic 

2 hours ago, PaulC said:

Maguire will play tonight and he's still playign two holding midfield players, so I really dont think that has anything to do with it. Southgate is a very cautious manager who has his favourites and Grealish doesnt fit in.

If you look at the official England squad you will see there are only 5 midfielders in the squad. Of those 5 midfielders, Mount is the only recognised box2box MF. He’s now out. We’re left with what are essentially 3 recognised holding MFs in Phillips, Rice, and Henderson. Of those 3 DMF, Henderson hasn’t played a competitive match in over 3 months. Then we have 17yr old Jude Bellingham as a CM. So it’s clear to see that Southgate has left midfield incredibly vulnerable. And we know the squad has been left light at CF. It never was a particularly well balanced squad, I couldn’t understand why much of the media waxed lyrical about the squad upon its release. It’s far too heavy in defensive players. 

12 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

Well if we're ready, why don't we just do it? 

I think they’re still deciding whether the offer is to be “slapped in”, or if it will actually be a “cheeky bid”.