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3 minutes ago, John said:

Nobody needs to be sold and I do not have any reason to doubt them on this or anything else. We might want to sell some players though and that might include a player that might not be willing to sign a new contract for example whose value may therefore drop when their contract enters the last 12 months.  

I think FFP aside they would keep Jack for 12 months to see if we go up so can offer him terms he can accept.

I think if he doesnt go and we haven't done well in the league by January he will be gone for sure.

But that is without FFP in consideration

If we got Tuanzebe, Snodgrass and Abraham I would be very happy 

3 hours ago, Jareth said:

Nassef's family?

Nah he was British think his first name may have been Peter

Edit this is the guy http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5822633/Roman-Abramovich-rejects-approach-sell-Chelsea-Jim-Ratcliffe.html

4 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said:

You raise some good points there Blandy, as did Gentleman in his prior post.

I believe that it should be possible for any owner to approach the EFL and prove their ability to safely exceed FFP.

The EFL could then insist on holding a bank indemnity for somewhere between twenty and fifty million pounds depending on the size of the intended investment, before approval to invest is given.

If for any reason the owner defaults, then his secured indemnity is used by thee EFL to cover all cost over runs. The remainder is then returned to the (now previous) owner  when his last liability is settled.

This is obviously off the top of my head, but there must be a way to allow a provably rich owner to seriously invest in his own club .... safely.

That's exactly what I think, debts should be to the owner and contract liabilities should be subject to some kind of guarantee if it is over what a club can realistically pay.

46 minutes ago, screwdriver said:

I wouldnt go to either of those two plastic clubs.

Chelsea are on the decline Abromovic will soon do a lerner. and tottingham hotsquirts are the new leeds united ie always the bridesmade never the bride.

The only club I would consider is man city however you would have to be content with the odd sub appearance, and the cup ties against league two opposition.

Better to stay at Villa and play some football and get some glory.

No other teams fans would surge onto the pitch and lift him into the air.  ask terry how many times it happened at chelsea with all the stuff they won?

firstly fans of these so called big clubs don't have the bottle to get on the pitch, they're the type of "fans" who bring ipads to the game.

That final whistle against boro was pure euphoria...and it was a nil nil draw

The person who wants to buy Chelsea is like 3 times richer than Abramovic

1 minute ago, sir_gary_cahill said:

He started great last season, he was banging them in for Swansea City and then tailed off for whatever reason. I’d back him to rediscover his Bristol City form here, is this looking like a possibility? Great, if so

He's got good movement and pace too.

Abraham would be a great signing looking at what he did last time in this league.

WTF are you lot on about signing all these players for? 

We are still in a big hole on FFP and any noise that has been going on is loans for youth and nobody's.

27 minutes ago, villan-scott said:

A nice article here on QPR and their FFP fine for those interested. A good insight from a very knowledgable guy. 

As others have mentioned, I believe there has been a rule change now, where points can be docked, so we need to be seen to be playing ball, rather than sticking two fingers up to FFP. 

In my opinion we will play ball and escape any FFP punishment. Whilst retaining Grealish I’ll add! 

Theres no point keeping him if we don't go up this year as he wouldnt sign a new deal and be in his last year.

13 minutes ago, fifamad said:

FFP is a load of bollocks. That is all. 

You say that, I say that, MOST people say that.

I just googled to see if there is a campaign to get rid of it.....and there isn't!

Hows that even possible? Almost no one likes it and there's a campaign for anything these days.

Why haven't we brought Mbappe, Neymar and Messi yet? 

6 hours ago, villa89 said:

Well if a company signed a 10 year naming rights deal @ £4m a year and paid the money upfront then surely that would help the accounts.

nah it has to be spread over the life of the contract

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4 hours ago, jim said:

Interesting watching Bruce’s interview after Burton, he referred to the new investors as the new owners.

well they are the new owners, they have a majority shareholding

1 hour ago, briny_ear said:

What on earth is Mrs Doyle doing in the first few frames of the GIF??

holding cleaning polish

2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

So, of the reported £40m we need to raise for FFP compliance, how much do we think we've already covered?

Wages for Johnstone, Samba, Snodgrass, Agbonlahor, Onomah, Terry, Tuanzebee, Grabban, Round and Wyness will mean we're operating at a very rough guess about £18m lighter than last year as things stand. I suspect with some of the other cost savings we've made, we're probably about half way there.

Of course, it might be that those savings have already been figured in and we're looking for £40m on top of that - in which case, we're even more fouled up than we thought. 

None of this will help our ongoing battle to pay the taxman or the other people we owe cash too, and that's our more pressing trouble, but I guess we're a little more sane at the moment than we were when got into this trouble - too little too late I suspect.

 

Don't forget to factor in the drop in parachute payments for this season.

5 hours ago, foreveryoung said:

There are offers on the table for us apparently to buy us outright, good offers. Xia won't sell as he needs to keep a share, to show some profit for the external company that financed him to buy us in the first place.  

What do you know that the rest of us don't?

2 hours ago, TRO said:

Question is......has HE actually got any.

He seems to be just a front man for somebody or other?

I think that's a secondary issue, even if he has money it doesn't appear to have been headed our way.

I'd say from the noise around the club that it's clear Xia hasn't been putting in his own money (he's allowed to put 13m a year into the club) without this it makes FFP much harder to meet so I have joined the Xia out crew.

34 minutes ago, Rob182 said:

I don't see how players and agents would know the figures. The manager might have been told, and he might have told people close to him, but I can't imagine the club are going to call a meeting with the players and tell them the exact finances. Yes everyone knows that we're not in a good situation, but the exact finances and the full extent of the issue is what some people have been calling for Xia to explain. That's not going to happen.

I reserve my right to refuse to make comprehensive judgements because nothing has changed in that we still don't know the severity of our situation. I have never said 'Xia has my full support' or 'Xia in' or any other pro-Xia bollocks that people seem to make out I have. I'm just not going to be actively leading the protests for him to leave when I don't know the full situation, or the mess that a new (possibly worse) owner would inherit. I'm under no illusions that Xia's management of our finances has been crap, but do I think his gamble was similar to that made by many other clubs that got relegated from the Premier League in recent years? Yes. I'd say it is. 

You insinuate that people know the finances, but in recent weeks we've heard the press say that we have £40m to make up, then it was £60m, and now it's £75m. Maybe things are coming to light in time, or maybe the press are guessing.

Pretty much this we can't know until march especially with the wild remarks in the press.

1 hour ago, markavfc40 said:

I think it is telling isn't it that in the open letter Xia took the time to address a number of the stories that have been written but didn't address the one regarding the 5 million pound we are haemorrhaging every month. Suggests that one may not be too wide of the mark.  

It's Impossible that we are losing 60 million per year, that is more than the entire wage bill for the year in season where we recouped 15m more than we spent on transfer fees.

So a new figure of 75 million to find.... suspiciously like that stupid 6 million loss per month that was parroted in the papers or the supposed 45m needed for FFP plus 30m investment figure......

God I wish we could see the accounts to get the actual truth the media is bloody useless.

Lets face it this thread is pointless unless we know the financial parameters we need to meet via player sales and a drop in the wage bill for 'sustainability and FFP compliance'

15 hours ago, mikeyp102 said:

So after the announcement we have to sell, in the next few weeks I wouldn’t be surprised to see the following leave:

Grealish

Kodjia

Chester

Hogan

Adomah

That’ll probably bring in £40m ish

We will bring some players in, no idea whom, but I’d imagine spending no more than £8m. We’ll still have some high earners here but I can’t see anyone taking them 

More like 55m!

7 minutes ago, briny_ear said:

Are those two things mutually exclusive?

Yes