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attacking move with 45 seconds to go he brings on a forward player

ok, he have then finish the book -attacking is best defence -

It seems to me we win a point (for ML a draw is a win). Bolton has equalised, it don't look good.

If that was the honest to god straight choice then I would take championship with new manager as staying up with McLeish is merely delaying the inevitable.

McLeish has to go in the morning

Lerner has to go in the summer .. the only bright future for Lerner is counting his bank balance when he sells the club

Totally agree. But Lerner is greater problem.

I reckon McLeish is in a win-win situation at Villa Park. He won't get sacked even if we finish 17th. Next season all he'll then need to do is improve on that (say by finishing 14th) and the idiots we've got in charge will be smug and claim that he's made 'progress'.

:cry:

"Alex for England!!!"

(after all: club before country...)

For England, I hope you mean Alex Ferguson.

If we get A. Young for a loan, he could take one or two dive for us.

Wigan is on good run. Is is question of qpr or bolton. I belive we are safe, so I think we will be happy with draw.

Our worst nightmare would be 1-0 defeat.

Mc would say: decent performance, great defeat only one goal.

Lerner would think: wow, this Mc is great manager. They just won us 1-0.

Poor performance, but we will not be relegated. Two points in two games is enough. But we don't play well, in fact we play terrible.

I missed the foul in the end, why was second goal for stoke not a legal goal?

If we want a draw, we should play 10-0-0.

I believe this will be 3-0 comfortable victory for Liverpool.

i posted in Alex McCleish thread

look at this

"Villa have the worst form of the basement battlers, the weakest goal threat and a manager who took Birmingham down last time around."

We might win Bolton, West Brom and Norwich. Maybe this is too positive.

I believe the club is in huge problem. Lerner is not doing good job. We had O'Neill we lost him, than we had Houllier ok he left for personal reason. Nothing to blame.

Then Lerner best choice is McLeast.

Maybe is best, in long run, if we will relegated. Than we have too build up, and make a decent plan.

With O'Neill we need some serious spending for 2-3 really good players. The club was not ready for serious spending.

He's going to take us down isn't he?

No. We have 13 games left and need about 10 more points to be safe we'll get that even with him in charge. The relegation battle is between the bottom 5.

I'm worried.

Not because we will be in bottom three.

I'm worried we will not!

If AM "safe" the club from relegation, I'm worried owners will be happy enough. We get one or two decent players not more.

If we relegated, is that worst case scenario?

Clueless Manager? What can we say about Lerner?

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It's probably bullshit but I wouldn't rule it out completely. The person who it came from said Ancelotti would go to PSG as well.

So why wait until the end of the season when we could berelegated by this clown?

It will be much cheaper to buy the club in end of the season. But I don't belive this Qatar story. Too good to be true.

Four wins in six games for sunderland.

O'Neill as next manager.

I saw last 20 minutes. Really bad, waste of time. Nothing was happening. Swansea played better and deserve 3points.

Second goal, sh*****t.

This was Swansea first away victory. From today every team will go to Villa Park and get easy 3points.

We need something more than Kean in january.

Great Point

Great Commitment from everyone tonight, I actually take lots of positives from this game

Did we really watched the same game? 2nd have must be really improvement. I just saw 1st, had to go to sleep

i missed the 1st half but was happy with what i saw 2nd half

We tamed Stoke and made them look crap (which they are not)

Good. In didn't like 1st half.

My worries, we don't play good football. With MON we played well, and had chances in every game. Well I had at least good feelings. Now I don't.

Great Point

Great Commitment from everyone tonight, I actually take lots of positives from this game

Did we really watched the same game? 2nd have must be really improvement. I just saw 1st, had to go to sleep

Decent or good performance!

This game was poor, slightly better but still poor. We might be best of the rest.

We have no chance.

We can either do

A) try something new, and probably loose big.

try playing 10-0-0, and hope for 0-0 draw.

If you bet on Villa victory, you will get 4.75 for every pound.

"Man of the match"

This must be joke.

Well I have to say none of the above.

I woted Moeys, but last time I woted for Ancelotti.

We should get some german manager. I have no idea how realistic I am.

Ok we have no idea who will be next manager.

But is this a good news?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/amateur-football/2011/06/07/aston-villa-will-take-their-time-finding-a-replacement-for-gerard-houllier-100252-28832299/

Of course it is not good to rush to much. But we can be last club in the line if we wait too long.

If you ask the managers who is best club in England. I doubt they will say Villa in top 6.

We need someone highly qualified and respected. Someone who can get us among the best.

If that is what we want.

Aren't any of you weary of judging Ancelotti purely on what he has won and perhaps ignoring the circumstances in which these successes were achieved? 2 league titles in 10 years of managing Juve, Milan and Chelsea has to be cause for some element of doubt surely? When you look at the Chelsea team he took over from Hiddink, did he really improve it? Cheslea were the best team in the league under Hiddink and Utd still had Ronaldo back then. When he took over at Juve they were the defending champions and went backwards under him. Milan had their leanest period of Serie A wins for a long time under him. I know he had cup success, but surely the league is your priority. I suppose what i'm wondering is why would he suddenly become a manager that really has a great impact at Villa, when he hasn't in the past and thus think he's being judged on his CV and maybe not putting those achievments into context.

Capello has a great CV, but given limited resources he's struggled. The only time he didn't have massive money to spend was when Roma had financial problems. Without the ability to buy the best players he was left to depend on his "coaching" skills and was next to useless. Somehow the FA ignored this and thought he could turn England into a WC winning side. I don't really see how Ancelotti's CV particuarly differs from Capello's or other managers who have won things in favourable conditions. Houllier had a great CV, but didn't seem like an improvement on MON. Rijkaard has won La Liga and the CL, but has been hopeless when not being bale to rely on world class players. I really can't see anything on Ancelotti's CV that suggests he's the right man for Villa. Whilst David Moyes has shown year after year that he can achieve whilst weighed down with the financial problems at Everton. With Randy's backing surely he's far more likely to be a success at Villa than Carlo.

It's the fact he's one of the best managers around and he would attract quality players across the globe. I don't expect him to sign 'superstars', but players who are underrated that can be the golden spine of the team. I have faith in his ability to adapt to our situation and build us into a lethal force where we could possibly give the 'top 4' a scare. I don't think none of us expect him to win the league, especially in his first season. When he does leave us, another quality manager may be interested seeing as we were worthy enough to attract Carlo and it could follow suit. He comes across as extremely likeable as well. No arrogance or none of that BS.

Capello is a different situation because he's limited to English players. Carlo can still attract a few quality players I bet.

Those are my points anyway.

And Ancelotti is on this 50 best manager list

We could dissagree to this list who is number 1,2 or 3. But be at top 50 manager list is something.

Ancelotti would bring us to higher level. If Lerner bring Ancelotti, it would bring him to higher level.

I voted for Carlo.

It's the kind of appointment that could change the club - in a similar way to Chelsea signing Gullit in the mid 90s. It took them continental, made them a bigger name, and then a few years later... Football is different now, sure, but profile is still huge. Ancelotti can/would change that upwardly.

There is a flip side, which is obviously that if a bigger job comes up in 12/18 months and he's nigh on transformed us then he'd be off quicker than Downing's agent can say "how much?!?!", but I think the positive elements to his appointment outweigh this.

I like this post. This is so 100% right.

It's the kind of appointment that could change the club - in a similar way to Chelsea signing Gullit in the mid 90s

Ancelotti would be a great lottery prize.

If Lerner bring maestro Ancelotti to the club.

Lerner would rightly be King Lerner

Nearly 50% of the vote, incredible.

50% is amazing.

Ancelotti moves closer to A.V. appointment

Maybe old news. This is really exciting.