Harry

Can we recall him?

3 hours ago, Stevo985 said:

He's currently one of the worst strikers in the league. We need to do far better

Who?

Blaming the keeper when the whole side was basically dogshit? Really?

Well that was a couple of hours of my life I won’t get back. A few thoughts in no particular order:

1) Poor team section at the outset. Freddie should have started  as should have Marvelous.Tactics were all wrong.

2) Douglas Luiz (spelling?) is shit. For every good thing he does he makes five mistakes.

3) Drinkwater responsible for three of their goals. Ok he did some good stuff but should not have started today.

4) Lets not forget we were playing £500m of Man City players.

5) We conceded the first two goals with pub side defending yet again.

6) Our midfield was non existent today. No defensive cover at all which put pressure on our defence. Man City just ran through us unopposed.

7) Not impressed by all the Smith haters out tonight. He called in all wrong today but who is a viable and gettable alternative? The real problem is the quality of the squad, Given we lost 13 players at the end of last season I think over the summer you cannot create a premiership squad for £130m. What  we have is a very good Championship grade side.

’8) The most worrying bit for me was the way heads went down after the second goal. We were there for the taking and it was a matter of how many they scored. My money was on 8 so it was a bit better . We need too be much tougher and fight. Not sure if that is down to Smith  and coaching or having players not up for the fight.

9) A lot of people were going on social media about how good the support was from the Villa fans despite the result. Well we are at the back of the Holte and loads of fans left at half time. We were quiet for big chunks of the game and the singing was pretty sad: John Carew, Benteke, European Champions, shit support (the away section was sold out!!), etc. Gallows humour at best and nearly a fight between two Villa fans next to us.

10) Sadly we will be relegated. 

3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

Nyland  0: Worst keeper I've ever seen play for us and I've seen some real shite, from Adam Rachel to Gabor Kiraly to Peter Enckleman. With Nyland in goal you may as well shoot on sight. Pathetic for the first and third goals, the sixth goal through him, terrible, terrible keeper.

Elmo 1: Pathetic play for the second goal, defends pathetically throughout, no excuses for dropping Guilbert, awful from Smith.

Konsa 2: A total mess today.

Mings 2: Spineless and pathetic, showed no leadership.

Hause 1: All over the place and a complete liability, pathetic for the sixth goal.

Taylor 0: Worst left back I've ever seen play for the club, makes Richardson look like Roberto Carlos. Putrid display.

Luiz 1: Weak as piss and brainless. Shocking display.

Hourihane 0: A nothing player who spinelessly disappears and shirks the basic duties of a central midfield player. Needs to be sold.

Drinkwater 0: The worst debut I've ever seen from a Villa player, don't know where to start describing how bad his performance was.

Grealish 5: Tried hard, showed some quality on the ball, but couldn't do anything on account of being surrounded by utter **** shitheads.

El Ghazi 3: Scored a pen, did **** all else, lacks desire.

Trezeguet 6: very bright when he came on, wins a pen, impressive and I'm certainly not one of his admirers. Our MOTM IMO.

So not much of an over reaction.

53 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

At some point, we need to get over the whole ‘it’s only 5-10m so it’s pennies’ and actually sign some decent players though. 

Im all for signing cheap players but it’s completely counter productive signing players for low fees if they aren’t good enough. 

Unsure on this one. We don’t need another centre half but if he’s better than what we have, so be it. 

I suspect we will sell Chester and probably put Hause out on loan so maybe self financing?

Looks like a total animal, sign him up. Especially for the suggested fee.

1 hour ago, It's Your Round said:

Christ no, I remember the furore over the last player we had that kept things ticking over. Ashley Westwood was his name if I remember correctly... 

Is that the same Westwood who has been one of Burney's best players?

Anyway its a no to me with Drinkwater, way too much baggage.

7 hours ago, PussEKatt said:

The owners have money ( lots of it ) I am just saying that all the top teams have a A list managers.If they really want us playing champions league football, we are not going to do it with DS.We had a chance of signing B.Rogers before we signed Smith.Rogers went to Leicester and they are second from top,we signed D.Smith and we are second from bottom.

Sorry but in what alternative reality was that in? Rodger was never touted as coming to Villa except on VT. Similarly there is a less than zero chance of getting Poch. Were we to sack Smith our options for a new manager are probably really limited, probably Houghton at best. I doubt even Alladyce would come as a fill in for a few months.

54 minutes ago, omariqy said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How things change in a few weeks. 

Welcome to Villa Talk.

On 29/12/2019 at 19:10, Pimlico_Villa said:

Also looks overweight. 

As for him faking hamstring injuries when he isn’t playing well. Laughable. 

Agreed....faking an injury to come off...really!!

10 hours ago, Adam2003 said:

Combined with lack of patience on behalf of both the club and fans, perhaps. Mark my words: some of the players currently being dismissed as ‘not ever going to be good enough’ on here will have good PL careers after leaving Villa.

There is a very long list of players deemed to be not good enough by the club and very particularly the fans who have gone on to be good or excellent at other clubs. Ashley Westwood anyone? A figure of hate on this forum I seem to remember

On 15/12/2019 at 18:25, sir_gary_cahill said:

Don’t forget we are a newly promoted team, we have an England international (Mings), an England u21 international (Konsa, Smith has gone on record saying he thinks he will play for England), a Belgian u21 international (Engels) and a former England u21 international (Hause) and a Welsh international (Chester). I think we’re in very good shape at centre back

Not sure we saw anything that might be termed ‘good shape’ today

Just now, av1 said:

Was the best of the 3 in midfield today imo

 

If that’s the case the others were even worse than I thought.

1 hour ago, Graham t said:

They were 'shit' at Villa but other clubs have been able to get more out of them. Its called 'coaching', something that does not exist at Villa Park....

I would agree, its amazing the number of players who are deemed not good enough for Villa who apparently pretty good for other sides.

1 minute ago, Robbie09 said:

Heads have noticeably dropped since the Leicester game and I’m not sure whether Deano has the ability to raise confidence levels. What’s more worrying for me is the complete lack of effort from some of the players today. 
Losing SJM so early was a massive blow but bringing Marvelous on was the wrong decision. It seems Deano is being tactically outmanoeuvred every week and his inexperience and/or his stubbornness to change formation is costing us.

Our owners are wealthy and by default very ruthless so I wouldn’t be overly surprised if Deano gets the bullet if things don’t improve very soon.

Agreed......sadly as I would like him to turn it around.

2 minutes ago, maqroll said:

Poch is waiting for the Man Utd job, doubt he'd come to Villa without a huge war chest.

There is no way Poch would come to Villa, however big a war chest. He is being talked about as the next Real Madrid manager!

4 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

Yes we do. He was injured. Looked a bad one, the sort where you'd expect to not see him again for several months.

Per DS in his radio interview he has been taken to hospital for an x-ray so its looks bad. Completely self inflicted too with his reckless hissy fit tackle.

Smith is under real pressure now. I like him and want him to succeed but we are going backwards. His Plan A is not working and I am rapidly coming to the conclusion he has no Plan B. He made his tactical substitutions much too late today. In the last 15 minutes of the game we put them under real pressure once those changes had been made so why not earlier?

I don't want to see him sacked but unless we improve very quickly he will be.

For the first time this season it dawned on me that we are real relegation candidates. We are just so easy to play against. Keep it tight in midfield and close us down quickly, double mark Grealish, and wait for us to make a mistake.

Added to that we sat way too deep and resorted too many times to hoofing it up the pitch toward a striker who is so out of form its embarrassing.

On 14/12/2019 at 22:24, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Really?

Sadly yes.

A player entirely unproven in the Championship let alone the Premiership. I would love to see him come good but to be honest I have never seen a game where he's played well IMO.

7 minutes ago, Newry_Villan said:

Poor all round from everyone. I see Smith out posts on Facebook ffs. 

That's FB for you  I exited all the Villa groups I was in a few months ago as I got sick of the extreme views and the abuse if you had a different opinion to the pack.

3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

I'm unsure why fans don't take your posts seriously. You are right here, the showing at Sheffield today, was proof to me we have not progressed one single bit. We looked much better when we played them in the championship.

Everyone was also desperate for that win last season, this season they are top half of the table and we cannot expect any better.

I tell you something now, if we get relegated I and plenty of other fans will be pissed off with Smith, we have the best resources out of all the Promoted teams, but maybe it's now showing not the best manager. Someone tell me Wilder wouldn't get this team performing.

I'm a big fan of DS but the reversal from our much more fluid passing style smack to me of manager desperate not to lose - Steve Bruce anyone? I don't think Wilder is mini me of Klopp but boy does he organise his side. Something DS did do but he has retreated into his shell. How we approach the Southampton game will be telling. A loss and it could get ugly at VP. Beating Liverpool in the CC would be a start too.

1 minute ago, rbcuk said:

Like everyone else has said we need to buy a striker in January, as keeping Wesley as our main one we will struggle to stay up, he’s **** atrocious 

You don't need hindsight to see we were foolish to rely on Kodja and Davies as back up too.