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(Still pissed off at watching a couple of hundred returning soldiers treated like second class citizens last Friday)
Tell us more Trees
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Now Now children
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Damn it Trees, was aimed at Tony's post
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Whichever, I just don't want Gordo staying in No. 10 for the next 4/5 months pretending to be all statesmanlike
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I'll go along with that Bicks but how long before the"vote of confidence", we probably need something to last a year min.
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Sorry but Lib / Lab doesn't work, they still wouldn't have a mjority and thus that ARSE Salmond and his Plaid compatriot would also need "sweetening".
I don't like Cameron but Lib / Con with the Libs stopping or at least slowing the worst excesses of Cameron is preferrable.
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yep Mike,
You have a conscience and a certain level of altruism.
No good to a free market society
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As Awol was saying, visit a Muslim country, and count how many people you see wearing a Burka or Niqab. It won't be many. Far fewer than I saw last time I was home in Bolton anyway, I bet.
visit a muslim country and have your bird walk round in shorts and a boob tube and see how long it lasts
bottom line is its perfectly fine for them not to allow that, same way its perfectly fine if belgium choose not to allow the burka
I have never really understood the whole "We can't do X in their country so they shouldn’t be able to do Y in ours" argument.
We make our laws based on what we think is right, not as a reaction to what people do in a backwards liberty denying country.
Surely the point is that wherever one lives one expects residents and visitors to respect the "norms" and the "norm" in Western Europe isn't religious zealotry
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The key here is the morale of the would be Lib Dem voter. For how many years have they simply not voted as 'there is no point'? Since the televised debates the Lib Dems feel they are on an equal footing. I reckon with Lib Dems getting the most votes, but not enough for a majority. *Ducks and when the Tories get a landslide I shall hope I am drunk*
Edited for accuracy :winkold:
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Shit, Damn, Blast, **** and Buggery.
I know we'll get a meeejah Redknob love in but surely not on here FFS
Sick as the proverbial
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if that continues I wouldn't be surprised to see a Labour majority of around 15 seats.
could be interesting as that would then suggest Clegg will have failed to have won many seats and may have to fall on his sword , Cameron will have to fall as well and Brown could still also be removed by his party
so we could get 3 new leaders in the event of a Labour majority ?
Almost makes it worth voting Labour
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I just love this.
Honest Arry complaining about someone else being dodgy
You couldn't make it up
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What makes you believe a Tory Government will save the Economy? They haven't reveal the full extent of their plans to the public yet, all they have done is hint and talk about implementing a DIY/Big Society
From the Independent, I know not the political affiliation of the journo but it's an eye opening read
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I'll wait until we have some one able to tell the truth in Downing Street before coming to any conclusions about that.
Jon,
I think that'll be a long long wait
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Why oh why am I not in the least surprised by any of that
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tonyh29 wrote:
politicians lie , always have done , always will do
Look, another Tony statement I can fully and wholeheartedly agree with.
Well said that man, even though it's paraphrasing Samuel Clemments (Mark Twain for the uninitiated)
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PauloBarnesi wrote:
Clegg will be picking up alot of voters who voted Labour in 97, and now Lib Dems in 2010. People who read the Guardian, go abroad to France, like a fine wine, etc....
Definately counts Tony out then
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In the "Spin" room in the aftermathof last night Paddy Asdown made (to me at least) a pertinent point about Debate 3.
As usual Gordo attacked Cameron, but Cameron attacked Clegg (generally speaking)
Could "Dave" be that worried about "wasted" votes
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When will the ghost of Blair be reappearing? Looking tanned, relaxed from all his hard work on the beach?
Tony's a tad busy at the moment - Blair's £350,000 for four hours work
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Gringo, That is absolutely brilliant
Well done finding that
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Have to go for the blue mancs.
It's just not in me to pick Spurs or plop above anybody else
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‘Greece infection’ spreads as stricken nation’s debt is rated junkGreece plunged deeper into financial turmoil last night after its government bonds were rated as junk by financial markets. The Portuguese government debt also took a hammering after panic spread that a Mediterranean virus of insolvency and bad debts would infect the rest of Europe.
Doubts are being openly expressed that a €30 billion (£26 billion) rescue package supported by Greece’s eurozone partners will be enough to tide the country over.
Norbert Barthle, a budget spokesman for Germany’s ruling party, made the financial mayhem worse yesterday when he said that banks holding Greek bonds might need to accept less than full repayment.
“Whoever bought Greek bonds wouldn’t get 100 per cent of their value but, say, only 80, 90 or 70 per cent — it depends,” he said.
The decision by the leading credit rating agency Standard & Poor’s to cut Greek debt to junk and reduce the sovereign rating for Portugal sent investors scurrying to the safer havens of UK gilts, German bunds and US Treasury bills.
The threat of a “haircut” for investors in eurozone bonds caused stock markets to fall across the world.
The euro continued its slide against the dollar but steadied after its fall against sterling on Monday. The London share market dropped 2.61 per cent, or 150 points, to 5603.52 and the Dow Jones industrial average was off 212 points at 10,992. Markets in Frankfurt and Paris also plunged.
The financial turmoil began on Monday when bond investors hammered Greece, forcing up the cost of short-term borrowing for the debt-strapped nation to 14 per cent.
Eurozone leaders have called an emergency summit on May 10 in the hope of approving a rescue package. Last night it was reported that the International Monetary Fund was prepared to put in another €10 billion.
Greece needs to repay €8.5 billion of maturing bonds on May 19. George Papaconstantinou, the Greek Finance Minister, said yesterday that the country could no longer afford to borrow.
Greece faces a formidable obstacle to rescue cash. Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, has promised to join the rescue only if Athens makes budget cuts lasting several years.
German public opinion, however, is set against the rescue package, of which Germany would pay €8.5 billion. “People in Germany ... worry that we will have to pay for a long time for Greece,” Klaus Abberger, an economist at the German Ifo Institute, said.
A temporary exit from the eurozone was mooted as a solution by the German Free Democratic Party, the liberal coalition partners of Ms Merkel’s Christian Democrats. This could offer Greece a partial reprieve if a devalued currency boosted the Greek economy and helped to avoid mass unemployment, Ben May, an economist at Capital Economics, said.
He added: “Exiting the euro temporarily is not going to solve all their problems. They need to make structural adjustments that ensure competitiveness isn’t lost when they rejoin.”
Are you watching, Brown lovers?
Massive deficits and policies of unsustainable public spending are to blame for this and Greece is now in deep trouble with Portugal possibly heading for the rocks too.
The canary has fallen off it's perch but will the British people and politicians start waking up to the issues that our election is really about?
All of these so called entitlements that Labour have brought in (to buy off a large chunk of the electorate) are going to have to be reviewed, even if they themselves were to get back in. The welfare state is going to get battered, whoever is in charge post May 6th.
Sorry Jon, but the above part of the artice you posted seems to me to negate the purpose of the post.
I'm no supporter of Gordo but when we challenge somethin we need to get our ducks in a row please
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Rubbish Levi - if you were correct then explain
- Minimum wage
The US, notoriously Right wing have had that longer than us
- Banning of Fox Hunting
WTF has that got to do with left or right wing
- New Deal
Not something I'd be boasting about
- NI Peace process
Granted, they finalised it but again not specifically right or left wing
- Sure start
Not sure
- Tax credits
new names for old benefits
etc etc etc
Sorry Drat, I don't think you can argue with Levi on this
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OK Jon,
We agree to differ
We both think the other's wrong and it won't change.
Still doesn't help filling the hole though
Bollitics: The General Election 2010 Exit Poll
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can somebody on here with some press connections get this out to the public and pour scorn and shame on the self important, look at me politicos and let's see them squirm their way out of it.
A complete and utter disgrace
(thanks for telling me Trees)