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On 24 April 2016 at 14:56, rjw63 said:
Can we have Gareth Barry back for our promotion push?
No chance!
Our player of the season!
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1 hour ago, Zatman said:
watching game yesterday and think Lukaku valuation or next destination will go down after it, not the 1st big game he has had a shocker in
What clubs may be prepared to pay might but not Everton's valuation.
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On 22 April 2016 at 20:31, Rugeley Villa said:
I can understand their frustrations but they want to try supporting villa for the last 5 or 6 years. I'm surprised in how quick they have turned on Martinez.
It's been 2 years in the making. Performances over past 2 seasons have not been good enough when we know the levels this team are capable of. On occasions has been unlucky but there comes a point when you say, it's happening too often to just be luck.
Then some comments he makes just leave people baffled.
This nails it... Why Evertonians feel like they do..
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39 minutes ago, Mantis said:
Didn't realise how disliked he was there. Just looked on an Everton forum and in a fairly large poll over 90% want him gone immediately.
I do not know one fan who wants him to stay now. He lost me after the Swansea and West Brom games at home. I'd been behind him until that point and realised then that nothing will change with him in charge.
The players look disinterested and are so unfit. The reason we are so poor defensively is the laziness and attitude of players. They don't track runners, don't close down or press, don't throw tackles in. To me that all comes down to the manager.
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4 minutes ago, rodders0223 said:
Quite a grasp he has of the English language already considering he has been in the country less than a year.
Well done young Sir.
He spent his teenage years growing up in Texas
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7 hours ago, Zatman said:
I see the English David Luiz makes another blunder, still cant believe people think he was worth 50 million. He has made so many mistakes this season that he is nearly on same level as Lescott, Richards and Hutton
As someone who has seen every single game he's played at Everton, I can tell you right now...he is a ridiculously good talent. He is a superb player who will only get better. I'll be gutted when he leaves as I know how good he can be.
He needs the right manager to bring it out of him, it's as simple as that. He is 21 years old!
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8 hours ago, Zatman said:
with all speculation about him at moment, I wonder would Everton take Moyes back
No thanks.
I want us to be ambitious. I don't know who but at least the names being linked this time are a lot more pleasing than when Moyes left.
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3 hours ago, villa4europe said:
Tackles like that and the red card just add the myth that this is a huge passionate ferocious local derby, there's more fire on the pitch than there ever is in the stands, police allowing an 8pm kick off says it all
Been pissed off in the build up with a few of the media suggesting this, the manc and the North London are the big local derbies in this country, those 3 would do well to get in the top 5
of course.
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I like the guy but he has to go, not up to it, players have downed tools...he's lost everyone...
Complete and utter disgrace tonight.
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On 15 April 2016 at 09:38, tonyh29 said:
Living down in Surrey I've got more Chelsea fan mates than is healthy for anyone to know , but they all seem to think Mourinho is joining you in the summer , to help spend your new found riches !!
I can't see it myself ... any rumours up your way about him ?
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I won't comment on Everton's woes I think you know my feelings
I've heard it.
I just think it's a tad unrealistic....but we do have money and he may fancy a challenge...I know he's unpopular but I can't help but think he's a winner. He has a winning mentality which we've lacked for so long.
Martinez is on serious borrowed time and the big boss (Moshiri) was there today to witness that. It won't have been pleasant.
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Right, I've read a lot of your rather neutral opinions on this so I'll give mine from the biased point of view as an Everton fan.
I don't even know where to start...
On Martinez...all started well, his first season kind of blew us all away and in turn made his own job for the future even more difficult. The football we played was breathtaking at times and I was genuinely excited going to watch us play. We nearly went an entire calendar year unbeaten at home only to lose on the last match for that year (undeservedly so too). Last year, was a bit middle of the road, we were genuinely in a relegation fight until a few of the senior players stood up and almost single handedly dragged us back up the table. This season has just gone even worse. 1 win in the last SIX AND A HALF MONTHS that wasn't against a team in the bottom 3. 4 home wins all season, 8 losses, on track for being one of, if not THE worst home performing seasons in our entire history! The football is slow and predictable, the team are weak, unfit and barely press at all. His substitutions defy belief, I'm still stunned that at 2 up with 10 men against West Ham he took off Lennon and brought on Niasse (who looks woeful on what little we've seen so far).
I like the guy and I want him to be a success but his stubborness, and the delusion he shows with his comments drive me insane. It's grown tiresome for a lot of fans now and the worst thing he could have done was make Baines look a fool, Baines who the fans adore and is a local lad, one of us...he only told us what we all knew anyway! At least he was honest!
But the fact he calls this draw with Watford a "strong scoreline" and then you get McCarthy coming out basically saying how disappointed they are with a draw, it shows the disconnect.
At the end of the day, that squad is capable of so much more. I've seen them dismantle class teams! But a combination of what I mentioned previously just makes us lose so much. It's a chore going to Goodison now.
Lukaku. Yes, he's great on his day, but he needs a partner to do his running. He is obsessed with goals but not a lot else. When he plays his last two performances you even wonder how he has scored as many goals as he has this season. If he wants to go, he can. He's only irreplacable if he plays like he can every single week and I don't know if he wants it enough.
You can echo that last comment about Barkley too. The amount of players who walk by him with the ball and he isn't even bothered about the thought of throwing a tackle in. He can do wonderful things but I fear he'll never be what he could. I massively doubt anyone would pay what we'd want for him.
Stones is a funny one. He might go...he might stay. He has the potential to be incredible but he needs a Vidic type player next to him and Jagielka is getting on now. When he learns to kick it out he'll be superb but I don't see it under a manager who tells him not to!
Joel isn't that great, but he's better than Howard. Goalkeeper has to be a priority in the summer.
I don't know one Everton fan who wants Martinez to stay at present. I'd give him a chance if I saw he was making efforts to change, ie. Bring in a class defensive coach, but he won't so for me he's got to go.
I've rambled on a bit there and I doubt it makes sense, and I've almost certainly missed things out I wanted to say but I just tried to give things from an Everton perspective.
The feelings this season has been compounded by how badly everyone else has done and the frustration of seeing Spurs and Leicester and West Ham up there when in our eyes, our squad is strong and deep enough in quality to be up there with them.
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On 8 March 2016 at 23:10, S-Platt said:
How's Barry playing these days Artetas Girl?
How long left on his contract?
Will he be offered a new one?
Can you have a word with him telling him to come home and anchor the midfield in the championship I think he would be an astute signing for us next year.
Been our best player this season, I'd say. Let's just say, when he isn't playing, you know that he isn't. Wouldn't surprise me if he won our player of the year award.
I'm not sure what his plans are for the future but he has another year left on his deal after this one.
In regards to the midfields, I couldn't really pick. Both are very different but very good in their own ways...
On Deulofeu, he is still only 21, he started like a house on fire but stalled a little bit. He started getting fouled a lot, no protection from referees (though doesn't help himself there) and was just getting really frustrated and it was affecting his game. Lennon could barely get in cos of his form, but since he's got in, he's been sensational, now Deulofeu can't get in! The problem Deulofeu has is that, it's difficult to play him, Barkley and Lukaku all together as despite being great players, they don't always work hard enough and can have a habit of trying to do too much, to the detriment of the team.
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The thing I will say on Martinez's behalf...he has got the average age of the squad right down.
Lukaku - 22
Barkley - 22
Stones - 21
Deulofeu - 21
Besic - 23
Funes Mori - just turned 25
McCarthy - 25
Joel - 25
Galloway - 19
That's a good chunk of the core of our squad at 25 or under, with a fair few others I've not mentioned. We have Shani Tarashaj who is coming in next season still only 21.
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12 minutes ago, BOF said: Jesus, you know it's bad when you're conceding more than we are. So what's the general Goodison faithful concensus on Martinez? Will he cut it in the end? Or can he simply not organise a defence to save his life? An Everton pal of mine (in fact my one and only Everton pal) still wants to give Roberto another season. As much as anything, he enjoys watching you play. You are good entertainment. Frustrating as hell, yes, but entertaining. Maybe the spectre of Moyes and his striker-less line-ups still looms large in his memory
I think people are just fed up with the same things happening over and over again. Some things he says are as if the fans are stupid (which some are, but not all of us!).
As a neutral, I can see we'd be exciting to watch. Some of the football we play is exceptional at times but when you are 2/3 up against teams you know you should be beating, but constantly are still worried, it says a lot.
You had chances at 3-1 against us, if you'd have made it 3-2, it would have been 3-3. So weak and fragile mentally, they just can't see a game out.
I'd say 2/3rds ish want him gone now but, I'm obviously only estimating that on the proportion of fans I know/follow on social media etc. I've been behind him so far but rapidly losing patience, I want to see a difference, and fast.
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4 hours ago, Zatman said:
I think this has been a wasted opportunity for Everton this season, Top 4 was open and they are the 3rd highest scorers in the league but have dropped so many points from winning positions. Not just this game but I think Bournemouth, Norwich as well they were in comfortable positions and didnt win
Don't we know it.
Best squad in 25 years, without question, but no idea how to use it.
Not just those games either. Stoke, Chelsea...City in the cup...that's not to mention Swansea and West Brom home games lately.
We've won 4 home league games this season. 4. Against yourselves, Sunderland, Newcastle and Chelsea, when everyone was beating them! Lost 7, including 5 of the last 7. Conceded the most goals at home in the league, and out of the top 5 'top' divisions across Europe.
Not good enough.
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On 6 March 2016 at 04:44, Zatman said:
2-0 up with 10 minutes left and still lost. Martinez is a conman of the highest order
Took off our best player (Lennon) and brought a striker on who has barely played. At 2-0 up, with 10 men, and our fragile nature....joke of a decision.
Time is ticking Roberto, the natives are extremely restless and many have been lost already.
Saturday is huge.
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On 2 March 2016 at 19:38, Genie said:
So he's not actually going to bankroll the stadium? Just arrange the loan with the bank. That'll be a £100m+ loan I guess against the club?
I don't know as I'm not on the inside of those discussions. I'm merely speculating that we are more attractive for the banks to loan money too if it was so needed than if he wasn't there...
Can read more here if you really want to..
QuoteEverton's new major shareholder Farhad Moshiri will prioritise plunging money to the club’s stadium project and gradually increase his stake in the club with a view to a full takeover.
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1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said:
Edit - except for one **** idiot who gloated that he wasn't bothered because they were OK now. I responded with "that's what we thought" to which he replied "ours is a Paki not a Yank". All clubs have them though eh...
Every club has them. There was a few racist remarks made by 2 young lads nearby and who went on to celebrate wildly and chant the names of Lennon and Lukaku when they scored...
They were soon confronted like.
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34 minutes ago, Genie said:
I think you're being a bit naive tbh. There are very few who are not in it for money.
Abramovic
Abu Dhabi Utd
Qatar Sports Ventures
.... all INCREDIBLY wealthy.
IF he was serious about pissing away a load of money on a Premier League plaything then he'd have bought the lot.
Time will tell. Its good news for Everton I think given where they are with their current owner, but I can't realistically see them doing much above where they currently are.
There is an already an agreement in place for him to increase his stake.
Obviously, there are no guarantees...but industry insiders say it is an extremely wise appointment.
1) banks will loan money for a stadium with someone of his wealth behind us which they wouldn't before
and 2) he knows a lot of wealthy people, and commercial partnerships.
I'm not saying it's going to be perfect, but it's very promising.
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33 minutes ago, Jimzk5 said:
With about 20 home wins in the last 100 games, were everyone's favourite away game.
I did mean in all my time going to games, even when you were pretty decent! And you beat us last season!
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Have to say, I don't think your team lacked fight.
I just don't think they were good enough to compete with us at first. When we switched formation, you came a lot more into it. When you got one back, if you'd have got another, which could have happened, we'd have been creaking.
Good luck for the rest of the season and I sincerely hope the wait isn't too long to visit Villa Park again, it's always been my favourite away...
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Just on my way back from the match now. I have to say, it was noticeable, people streaming out when the clock hit 74. Particular in the North stand to our right and the upper Holte End.
Pleased that our fans supported you too, lots of clapping for your chants and quite a few even joined in.
I heard a lot of empathy around me too, we know it quite easily could have been us in your position. There's a lot of respect between the two clubs, and as I said, because we are so similar.
I can't wait til you are back up fighting with us again. Respect to all of you who took part, I only hope the movement grows. You deserve so much better.
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4 hours ago, Genie said:
I like Everton and hope it works out for them.
I'm just struggling to see why an "astute businessman" will pour hundreds of millions into something that only turns a profit in very rare occurrences (eg. Man Utd).
Don't get your "Everton Champions of Europe" tattoo just yet.
Cos as I said, from what I've heard, he's not really in it for the money. He has his other businesses going on for that...
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18 hours ago, Genie said:
So is this guy so rich that he can afford to blow a billion or 2 on a plaything? If he's come in to invest in the team and build a new stadium its seems a bit good to be true.
Unless hes one of oil billionaires like at City or PSG he's going to want some kind of return on his investment which is incredibly difficult in football fullstop.
Basically from what I can gather. He's an astute businessman. He doesn't seem to be in it to make a quick buck, he wants to own a winning team. He grew frustrated at Arsenal with the fact he couldn't influence things at board level as Kroenke was majority stakeholder.
Here the idea seems to be: invest in team, invest in rebuild/new stadium, build up commercial side of the club, alongside a gradual stake increase to around 75%. The value of the club should dramatically increase with the stadium being sorted, etc., and with the increased money in the game too.
There's even rumours it could mean Usmanov coming from Arsenal in the future too. Though I don't know how to feel about that!
Jesus, you know it's bad when you're conceding more than we are. So what's the general Goodison faithful concensus on Martinez? Will he cut it in the end? Or can he simply not organise a defence to save his life? An Everton pal of mine (in fact my one and only Everton pal) still wants to give Roberto another season. As much as anything, he enjoys watching you play. You are good entertainment. Frustrating as hell, yes, but entertaining. Maybe the spectre of Moyes and his striker-less line-ups still looms large in his memory 
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Moyes' work was always appreciated, well after the blips..., but it was incredibly frustrating just watching the same thing every year and not seeing us get any closer to the top 4. Martinez's first season, we were incredibly unlucky to finish 5th, even if Spurs win their last game they will only finish 1 point more than we did that year!
I'll be stunned if Moyes came back. His relationship with Kenwright is no longer what people think. Moshiri will have a big say now too of course but still.