P3te

As much as Lambert pissed me off... I now feel horribly for Sherwood, he's going to have his hands tied without any investment and is losing big players. Sort of understandable where some of the Lambert dross came from. I genuinely believe we are screwed for next season. Good luck though Timmy, right behind you!

Doesn't seem like we're short of money given the bids that have been reported on from various quasi-reliable sources though. We've got,what, 25m in bids out there at the moment?

If he goes he goes. There's not a player in our squad who'd turn down City, nor a player in any of our squads over the past 20 years who would turn down a move to a club in City's position.

I have no doubt he believed every word he said when he signed the new deal, I just think he never in his wildest dreams imagined City would be after him offering him a 6 figure wage. Even the fact (if it is indeed a fact) that he'll be making 120k a week sounds to me like he threw out a seemingly ridiculous figure during discussions and they went for it. How much did he sign on for with us 6 months ago? Doubt it's even half of that.

In his shoes I'd have done the exact same thing, from his comments to accepting the move.

120k a week over 4 years - he'd not earn that in 8 year playing at villa. That's 25m over the contract. Your kids, their kids and their kids are living absolutely privileged lives thanks to that money

 

It looks like he is in Sherwood's plans which I am very happy with. I can see him having a very good season 

 

 

Historically, he's always been at his best (which is pretty decent) when he's been playing for a new contract or a move. I think he might actually be decent this season, assuming we set our stall out NOT to offer him a new contract and are happy enough to have him play well and then **** off to another patsy who'll get nothing out of him til his contract is about to expire or he wants a move, just like at Newcastle and Wigan

especially when you consider it'll probably just go to Randy's pocket.

 

No money we have ever made, ever, has gone to Randy's pocket. The guy has sunk a quarter of a billion of his own money into us. He's not exactly been great in his role, but I wish people would knock this rubbish on the head that he's taking money out of the club. The club has been draining HIS finances, not the other way around

i don't think it would be the end of the world.

50/50 shot imo

People are just fishing for likes now surely

 

 

Am I the only one who wouldn't mind Adebayor on something like a 2 year deal? Sherwood managed to get a lot out of him and he does have a lot of ability.

No you're not.

 

He's as enigmatic as he is trouble but underneath he's a bloody talented player, even at this stage of his career. 

I fancy if he came here the support he'd get would be quite inspirational, now what he does with that would be up to the manager, and at least he and Sherwood have some rapport.

 

Then there is the Adebayor's record, we currently pay a striker who can't score goals a lot of money to flatter himself, yet with Adebayor you're guaranteed goals, he's one of those players. If we get 90% of him even 40% of the time he'll score/assist more than Gabby, and probably just hit double figures, that would be hugely beneficial to us.

If you get any more you're looking at a guy who will contribute 15 times a season, in assists and goals, that's something our relegation battling squad could really do with, especially on a short deal.

 

He's a gamble for sure but he's not a write off, especially for teams looking to permanently move away from the bottom of the table.

 

 

you'd rather have adebayor than gabby? 

 

 

both are inconsistent, one because of injuries and the other because he's a bellend, i hope we arent going anywhere near him

 

The difference is that Adebayor scores goals pretty regularly when he's playing

Just another manic Bunday.

I wish it were Dunneday

 Delph is one of reasons we are a shit team and if he goes good luck ot him but I wont miss him

That's one way of looking at it, another is that Delph is one of the reasons we're not a shittier team

30 years old and played 23 games since 2010. I'm sure he's wonderful

Jonathan Johnson journo in France

Who the hell calls their kid that

They don't NEED to fill the homegrown quota, it's just that you can only have a given amount of non-homegrown players in your squad and the rest is to be filled by homegrown ones. If they had no intention of playing someone bought as homegrown then they're as well not bothering and just leaving the squad a man light

in the meantime we've got Cortese on board to help out.

When did this happen?

 

Add Shay Given to the list as players to end a contract early to pursue coaching/management

 

Except he's not doing that in the way that we were debating, which was that he'd just sign up as a coach and as a result, write off his playing contract.

 

Let's not get into revisionism now.

 

or

This one.

 

 

Lower wages, though, and both of them have done well enough when played. Zog is the only crap one left on the kind of wages we should be paying to players at the peak of their career.

 

 

 

Shay Given?

 

He left today

 

 

 

 

P3te - still waiting for a response.

Sorry, I don't have a list of former players turned coaches and their playing deal expiration dates, strangely enough. But plenty of players have retired before their deals expired and moved into coaching

 

 

You can't name one but there are plenty?

Come off it.

 

go do your own research if it bothers you that much

 

 

It's not my research, though. You seem to be playing this off as though you can't be bothered to substantiate your claim, when in reality we both know that you're wrong. 

 

Add Shay Given to the list as players to end a contract early to pursue coaching/management

This won't be popular i guess but I think we should be actively marketing him at £32.5m. The squad needs so much strengthening and £32.5m would come in handy for that purpose. In a way, there's not much point in keeping Benteke if he is so much better than the rest of the squad and we can't afford to invest to create a balanced team that doesn't depend so much on Benteke firing to be successful.

I don't agree because we do not know what budget TS has to work with. Given the players we are signing or are rumoured to be interested in I would guess it's more than we think. The big issue at Villa was the wage bill and we have spent every season since MON left trying to sort that out and it appears it's finally under control. Added to that we have no idea what new owner might provide as transfer budget if the sale happens, and before the end of the transfer window.

I was originally quite bullish about Beneteke staying, less so now, even knowing that most of the Liverpool loving media is making most of it up. Our problem is who we replace him with? We won't get anyone cheaply as strikers always ago for a premium and selling clubs will know we have £32.5m less Ghenk's (spelling?) share in our pocket.

I still think we should do everything in our power to keep him if that is possible. If he has a blistering season with us and at the Euros we will get more than £32.5m for him.

Unless he signs a new contract with a higher release clause £32.5m seems to be the max we'll get for him (if that is actually the clause figure)

People say they they dont think we will get taken over why on earth would the club allow ssn to put up on the breaking news bit stating villa had granted exclusivity. If something was a complete lie you would not just allow people to think its true if it complete rubbish. If villa were not dealing with a potential buyer they would of made a statement saying rumours were false there is no way Villa would allow anything completely untrue to be published it just dosnt make sense. I expect a takeover by friday.

My predictions are club sold for 140million and the new owner will be larry ellison. I think delph and Benteke will stay. Villa will due to ffp leniancy build and go forward, great times ahead for us villans UTV.

So much wrong with this post

This guy is awful. No way is he making it here. Take the money, any money, and run.

What money?

 

 

 its baffling as to why he was outcasted almost immediately after signing

He became very, very ill

 

 

I was under the impression that was quite a while after he arrived, though to be fair I could be misremembering. 

 

He was in squads and featuring up until that point, then he disappeared

 

Apparently Colley has paid the money to Sherwood. Sherwood has said he knows nothing about the takeover.

Then asked if Colley wanted another 100 quid on Benteke

 

100 quid on him staying or going?

I get the feeling the out will be confirmed alongside a handful of ins bought using the money this coming week

Says 1.1bil after browns sale

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/aston-villa-chairman-randy-lerner-1240157

Forbes said $1bn

Plus he lost half his money to his ex wife

 

Seems like we're getting some money from somewhere, maybe Tim as put the cockney frighteners on randy.

Randy's always had money, don't think dropping to his last 5 billion means otherwise. Its just he's never wanted t spend it.

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Randy's worth is £640m

Not sure where you're getting "his last 5 billion" from given that he's never had anything close to that