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Senior Tories join Jeremy Corbyn to oppose Covid passports ahead of trials

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More than 70 MPs including 40 Conservatives, the former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and Liberal Democrat members have forged a parliamentary alliance to oppose Covid identity documents.

It came as Boris Johnson suggested the government would move ahead with the scheme and it was announced that pilots of mass testing at large events would take place this month.

Four former Tory cabinet ministers including Iain Duncan Smith and Andrew Mitchell are among the group, along with key Labour leftwingers such as John McDonnell, Clive Lewis, Diane Abbott and Rebecca Long-Bailey.

The coalition of MPs is backed by the civil liberties groups Liberty, Big Brother Watch, the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants (JCWI) and Privacy International.

Johnson has noticeably warmed to the idea of the documents in recent weeks. Government sources have suggested the certificates could be used by businesses as a way to relax social distancing measures inside venues.

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25 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

We know vaccinated people *transmit* the virus roughly 90% less

A pertinent question to throw in would surely be: for how long does this reduction in transmission last for those who have had just the first dose of each vaccine type and will/might it tail off significantly without the second dose?

Almost third of UK Covid hospital patients readmitted within four months

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Nearly a third of people who have been in hospital suffering from Covid-19 are readmitted for further treatment within four months of being discharged, and one in eight of patients dies in the same period, doctors have found.

The striking long-term impact of the disease has prompted doctors to call for ongoing tests and monitoring of former coronavirus patients to detect early signs of organ damage and other complications caused by the virus.

While Covid is widely known to cause serious respiratory problems, the virus can also infect and damage other organs such as the heart, liver and kidneys.

Researchers at University College London, the Office for National Statistics, and the University of Leicester, compared medical records of nearly 48,000 people who had had hospital treatment for Covid and had been discharged by 31 August 2020, with records from a matched control group of people in the general population.

The records were used to track rates of readmission, of deaths, and of diagnoses for a range of respiratory, heart, kidney, liver and metabolic diseases, such as diabetes.

After an average follow-up time of 140 days, nearly a third of the Covid patients who had been discharged from hospital had been readmitted and about one in eight had died, rates considerably higher than seen in the control group.

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1 minute ago, bickster said:

Does it come with plants? If so, I'm in

[PC]I think they're called UCOs, now. [/PC]

23 hours ago, Kingman said:

Read it again!.. 

Oops. Apologies.

27 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

£77,000 really should raise eyebrows in the house.

 

Not good refereeing.

Edit: Oh, it's Barnes?

Allez, Les Bleus!!

4 hours ago, bickster said:

EDIT: And the reason I'm so interested is because I'm booked in next Thursday, when I'll be 56 and 1 day, so I really don't want my appointment cancelled

Happy Birthday for next Wednesday.

18 hours ago, darrenm said:

In the absence of a 12 week booster, you could reasonably guess it'd be 12 weeks less.

It may appear a 'reasonable guess' but is it anywhere near what actually happens?

On 10/03/2021 at 14:35, KenjiOgiwara said:

I've always been thinking -ise endings is British, and -ize endings is Americanese. Am I wrong in that?

Yes.

6 minutes ago, Jareth said:

Well he is, and has often been described and self identified as a Libertarian - but that's just a matter of fact, so don't let that get in the way of your opinions

It may be a 'matter of fact' that he has been described as that and 'self-identifies' as that - this does not, however, make it a matter of fact that he is.

Him claiming that he is, being described as it or having you say, "Well, he is..." are all merely opinions, too.

Just now, Jareth said:

BoJo the great libertarian

He isn't a 'great libertarian'.

The only people's/things' freedom(s) in which he is interested are his own, his cock's and anyone with enough money or influence to peddle his (or his party's) way.

2 hours ago, Silent_Bob said:

30 million doses of AZ meant for the UK have been found in Italy...

3 hours ago, Kingman said:

So this Rule of 6 or 2 house holds that can meet outside from March 29th. 

Has this been caveated again to just meeting in public places or can you meet in private residential gardens? 

It includes private residential gardens.

4 hours ago, Jareth said:

I'm struggling to understand exactly which 'freedoms' are being so suppressed by Covid rules implemented by this government.

Perhaps you could start by reading all of the (often emergency) powers that have been imposed since March last year before asking such a ridiculous question.

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1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said:

I'm sure you're right; there's probably someone being frantically told to edit that webpage as we speak. But the question will remain, why did it take the murder of a member of the public apparently by a police officer, and the violent crushing of a peaceful protest, for them to address the main problem with the bill?

(That's a rhetorical question of course, I know the answer)

It's not even anywhere near a  criticism of the actual bill, neither.!!!

29 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

3 in Scandinavia the last 2 days. Think they got 10 more on the E.R due to blot clots tonight.

Though obviously more than mild, they would represent a very insignificant propoortion of responses, no?

1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

I don't think relatively speaking, big outbreaks of blood clots and brain hemos are minor. People are dying because of the AZ vaccine.

I had a brain hemo at my uni days. If I were offered the AZ vaccine tomorrow I'd laugh at it. Not touching it.

Did you bother to read my post before replying to it?

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People are dying because of the AZ vaccine.

Are they? And how many? And how?