DanishVillan

Are you? Who said that?

You know exactly what you implied snowy. Suggesting that wanting to use these on the worst criminals make him the lowest of the low.

Nobody mentioned those, they mentioned criminals. Have you got any idea how fast we would run out of murderes and rapists?

Even including the wrongly convicted who would end up taking their place. y to you. very often.

Well, a few mentioned the lowest of the low. I hardly think cyclists not wearing helmets fit this category. And no, we wouldn't run out of them quickly, because the intention is hardly to kill them now, is it?

I'm amazed some are making a big deal out of this. "OMG nooooo! we can't test cosmetics on murderers, just think how it will damage their rep in prison!" Jesus Christ.

Hmm, who is the lowest of the low after we wipe out murderes and rapists?

Or should we just stop science when there is a 10 year queue on those?

Edit: skipped the "not killing them" part too fast.

Yes, the intention would be killing them in some tests.

Yes, they would all be useless anyway, since they haven´t lived in a clinic environment.

After reading through this thread I think my opinion is pretty much bang on what CarewsEyebrowDesigner has put

the lowest of the low

Those keen on experimenting upon other human beings, perhaps?

Well it's a shame you feel a number of us on here are the 'lowest of the low'. Didn't realise I was worse than a murderer or rapist.

Nobody mentioned those, they mentioned criminals. Have you got any idea how fast we would run out of murderes and rapists?

Even including the wrongly convicted who would end up taking their place.

Soon it would become groups like cyclists with no helmet, street smokers and cannabis users. Freedom fighters, fighting crap laws with detrimal effects.

Keep the medical testing on animals please. After all, we also got animal hospitals.

Leave the human testing to Adolf and his ilk.

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

Benjamin Franklin

I hate the fact that i am really confident of a good result. Only thing keeping my optimism at check is that we have already beaten the other skychamps.

Arsenal are clearly the top 4 team that suits us best, especially considering their current injuries.

They may piss all over us regarding technique but they dont like getting closed down fast and they got no leadership or spine.

I consider Fabregas more a "best player" captain than a leader and I read he passed the armband on to Almunia (and dont get me started on him vs Friedel)

So.....3-1 Arsenal

Most of MoN´s "mistakes" has in hindsight proven him right.

His strangest decision yet for me, was the Sorensen/Carson decision and Sorensen is still the superior of those 2.

Wouldn´t really call it a mistake though.

Are you really sure Lennon would have even considered joining us back then?

"This is not a time for point-scoring"

Surprised to see Rooney getting praise. Thought he was very bad in the second half. (no complaints, though)

Cant decide on best player but most improved is a battle between Gabby and Carlos for me.

I thought that with only Evra and Vidic in their defence we would have a decent chance of winning, with their team unbalanced and our attacking play working well. Then I saw that their starting line up was actually pretty much full strength, right back aside. Injury problems my bloody foot. It was nowhere near as easy as it had originally looked.

But guess what? We **** won!!! They tried everything, threw all their strikers on, they had their wingers, they threw on Gibson in desperation, and nothing worked as we were simply immense!

FINALLY it's the first time I get to see us win against Man Utd, after so long! (Aside from the League cup fixture that I think was their reserve side)

YEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was very surprised to see their starting line-up. Maybe SAF got surprised we played 2 strikers?

Big compliment to our midfield if not.

Why not give it a chance and try the novel idea of not replacing manager every 4 years?

The main reason for me is that O'Neill is into his 4th year, and yet here we are, still playing turgid football that's dismal to watch. I don't expect us to win every match, but then neither do I expect to see the likes of Wigan, Burnley and Blackburn give us a lesson in how to play proper football.

Your patience-level is certainly lower than mine. I am a fisherman though and a sucker to try some stability as well.

Some important changes in the team as well, going into this year, maybe made me lower expectations a bit too.

I have no problem considering those matches speedbumps, while looking back to Anfield or vs Chelsea.

It seems many fans are as deadly as DE.

Why? Only 17 out of 122 (currently) want him out. Thats a 73% majority in favour. Where is the deadliness in that?

The deadliness is in the reasons put forward, for wanting him replaced:

Buying the wrong players, bad playstyle and hunches.

Highly subjective.

I think Trickie meant that 17 out of 122 was not "many".

i guess it depends on what you class as many. Personally, i still think that is a high for approval rating for MON.

Had I said few, I would have been accused of singling out

Anyway, I don´t like how this debate is always about the person MON.

We got a manager now, who has been here around 3.5 year.

In that time We have gone from relegation candidate to established "chaser" and got perhaps, the most exiting squad I can remember at VP. Maybe not best 11....Yet.

Why not give it a chance and try the novel idea of not replacing manager every 4 years?

It seems many fans are as deadly as DE.

Why? Only 17 out of 122 (currently) want him out. Thats a 73% majority in favour. Where is the deadliness in that?

The deadliness is in the reasons put forward, for wanting him replaced:

Buying the wrong players, bad playstyle and hunches.

Highly subjective.

I fell in love with Villa as a glory-hunting kid in ´81 and in that time there has been 12 managers. (Well 11 but GT twice)

Would love to see some stability before I die of old age.

It seems many fans are as deadly as DE.

Well, thats the way to play roulette

Whats the point?

No matter who we could get in, the instant FM satisfaction crowd would have their knifes out.

We do have it up front then as well...Because we may be tempted more into 433/451.

So Carew or Gabby? With the Fonz lurking

What an ace problem to have....Once Downing is ready ( and Friedel isnt setting records anymore) we will have it all over the pitch.

Spurs losing home to Stoke helped my mood a bit

bit OT but was Downing penaltytaker for middlesbrough?

I say ban the fashion industry next. Just look at all these teenage second-hand victims, with their eating disorders etc...

BAN IT!!

Yeah, I think its a shit law

A spliff a day keeps the doctor away

Never tried the others though.

I have never heard a good reason why alchohol is so accepted while cannabis is satan.

If the roles were reverse im sure we would have less violence and fewer killed in traffic etc.

We would end up with a safer but more boring society

But that surely cant be the reason?

Listening alot to a band called Volbeat at the moment.

A danish band and not sure if they are known outside Scandinavia at all.

But i´m using this topic to promote them

Their style is hard to describe but the best i´ve heard is a mix of Misfits and Metallica

with an Elvisfan singer.

My 3 favorites right now:

Volbeat - The Human Instrument

Volbeat- A Moment Forever

Volbeat - The Garden's Tale

On the last song they use a guestsinger from another band and he sings in danish.

Will confuse you but still a great song