DanishVillan

Nervous but good start for us yesterday.

It is certainly the best danish team in a long time. Sisto, Christensen, Poulsen, Fisher and especially Hojbjerg are players to watch.

I would say yes. If you go back far enough.

Ok, so let's make heroin legal, what a lovely society we would have.

 

"Where are you going my son ?"

 

"iam just going to the store to get some heroin"

 

Oh ok, just make sure you are back before dinner"

 

"Yes dad"

Could be an interesting social experiment.

How many would be stupid enough to think "It´s legal now, I´ll go smoke some crack and work on my fear of needles"?

would isis  be what they are now if saddam was still there. its laughable really that US and the UK thought he was a danger to the world.

Trading oil for Euro´s and bypassing the dollar was seen as a threat.

Then Gadaffi went very vocal regarding the african gold dinar and we all know what happened to him. And his gold.

They seem more than happy to get rid of their Dollars. They are stockpiling gold instead.

 

Breaking on TV that a free speech meeting in Copenhagen cafe has been shot up by persons unknown, 3 cops wounded, at least one civilian killed.

It was being attended by the French Ambassador and a cartoonist who has previously drawn pictures of Mohammed. Gunmen currently on the lamb.

Sadly he didn't stop there, ofcourse he had to attack a synagouge aswell and kill 1 more, utter scum.

 

The killer was known to danish police with a record of weapon possesion and violence.

They also described him as close to one of the gangs operating in Copenhagen.

Released 2 weeks ago according to danish media.

 

 

 

They should be bombed into oblivion.

If you can find them. More innocent victims will inevitably get caught in the attempted attacks on the IS words removed.

If they would all line up in 19th century marching and fighting formation out in a field somewhere then we could napalm them.

Unfortunately, dropping a bomb on a village they've seized causes a 6 year old boy to see his mum or his sister killed....and off we go again, with revenge for the revenge on the revenge (see Palestine).

As for troops n boots on the ground, see Iraq and Afghanistan.

It's a bit of a sticky situation.

Back in the day when we had an Empire the Brits got really good at what were called punitive expeditions. We'd send in 5-10,000 troops to find, fix and destroy as many of the enemy as possible and then leave again. No occupation or nation building that keeps you there for years, just a few months roaming around and doing the necessary.

Translated to the modern era I'd suggest an up scaled version of the Long Range Desert Group which operated in North Africa during WW2. Lots of mobile columns operating in the huge empty spaces of Eastern Syria, ripping up their lines of communication and supply, locating any concentrations of enemy forces and destroying them from the ground and air.

It's the kind of job that UK, US and French conventional forces are very good at, which if coordinated with Kurdish forces would really change the balance of power on the ground.

Simply bombing IS will never make a strategic difference and I don't see how the current situation can be tolerated any more. Sure it would probably lead to a few more attempted terror plots in UK but they are trying to do that already, and frankly anyone motivated to launch domestic attacks for giving IS a shoeing aren't people we should want breathing anyway.

 

No nation building?

Didn´t you draw many of the borders that still exist?

Anyway, it is clear that the west want to get rid of Assad and that he has allies of some power.

He is winning alot of lost ground back from Isis (useful idiots turning out useless) and have no reason to permit western troops in Syria.

Finally...We are broke.

All we need to do is sign that Pione Sisto and we will have 3 absolute tanks in the team!

He certainly looks like the next big thing from the danish league.

About to gain danish nationality and could easily become part of our national side.

Okore looks set to become the first since Agger to make a successful move from the best danish league to the pl, iirc. Well f***ing done!

You've never had a mortgage? Or bought anything on a credit card? Or had a student loan? Or car finance? Or an over draft?

 

I'm not doubting you, I just find it very hard to believe anyone can go through life without any debt at some point. I mean I'm very debt adverse, I don't generally buy things unless I can do so up front but I still have or have had all the things listed above.

I´ve never had any of these but then I live in one of the best cycling cities with decent public transport and more or less free education.

Also, I was lucky to buy my first apartment before the housing market really took off.

I see a future with debtor prisons as more likely, than with debt write-offs.

I´ve only seen it in Danish media. He wouldn´t want to come back and he expects Villa are happy with that.

I agree, very strange.
I´ve read that the Albanian players were refusing to restart the match and that could be the reason Serbia won but not sure.

UEFA ruling after the Serbia-Albania match:

Serbia 3-0 winners.
Serbia deducted 3 points and next 2 home games no spectators allowed.

Suddenly the road opened up again..

He is with the U-21 team who meet Iceland today. Not sure he will play.

Such a great result for Iceland and big congrats from here. Still hope you lose tomorrow though.

Public health emergency for the duration of the epidemic declared in Connecticut.

No cases there yet, so overreaction?

I watched this and thought it was interesting, but then just felt it was another conspiracy nonce sense!

 

But it sounds plausible.

 

 

I then decided to read some of the comments, and that's where it gets bat Sh*t crazy! 

Not his best piece but I do like his videos. This one about Ukraine nails it.

 

 

 

 

Although calling for a UNSC resolution to get authority to bomb IS in Syria sounds good in principle, that relies on the consent of Russia.

Given the fact Russia is currently annexing parts of a European country and managing/fighting on one side of a civil war it has caused, it seems a fairly ludicrous position that they could then veto international action by a broad coalition against a terrorist group.

Which given the US record on the use of veto would be comically ironic.

Not really comic in its consequences though. We now face the ludicrous position whereby the PM can only ask Parliament for permission to attack IS in Iraq but not in Syria, as if respecting some imaginary border that no longer exists is the paramount concern.

That international law eh? Ludicrous!

When legal authorization for action is in the gift of a man currently annexing parts of his neighbour's countries then yes, it's totally f'in ludicrous.

 

Where is the startpoint for you?

Seems to me that Svoboda, a neo-nazi party supported by US, removed an elected leader before all the "annexations" started.

Although calling for a UNSC resolution to get authority to bomb IS in Syria sounds good in principle, that relies on the consent of Russia.

Given the fact Russia is currently annexing parts of a European country and managing/fighting on one side of a civil war it has caused, it seems a fairly ludicrous position that they could then veto international action by a broad coalition against a terrorist group.

The president of Ukraine were presented with a choice: EU/NATO or Russia.

He obviously went with Russia as they are completely dependent on them for energy etc.

That was not what the US wanted after spending 5 billion dollars on Ukraine and the coming missile shield.

So they created chaos and had their guy installed. Just ask Victoria "F**k the EU" Nuland.

Edit Nyland/Nuland

Hmm, how about replacing some of those bombs with some of the food/medics/toys we will likely end up destroying anyway.
What would that do to their numbers?

Worth a try after +10 years of bombing them.

Destroying kit you're leaving behind requires organisation. An army in rout lacks organisation, because it isn't an army any more, in this case just Shia boys heading for the hills.

 

 

 

I am not really sure of what you're implying here? Are you suggesting that IS is some sort of phantom?

3 days of skirmiches and obviously not surrounded and they couldn´t do any of that?

Yet you bang the drums to start bombing a country where Russia is heavily invested and who got pacts with Iran, Chinas largest oilpartner.

Shouldn´t we just stay home and praccy?

 

 

Please give me a logical answer to my question on the Iraqi soldiers leaving weapons and then laugh and point.

30.000 soldiers running from 800 Isis after 3 days of sporadic fighting at Mosul leaving loads of weaponry behind.

They would surely also be accompagnied by some western advisors.

I am not asking for sofisticated booby trapping, but blow the shit up.

Both duty and survival instincts should kick in.

 

I'm struggling to understand who your question about the actions of the Iraqi army is in any way linked to the question regarding a potential threat posed by ISIS to the West. The two things aren't linked in any way I see.

 

So before I answer that, do you now accept that quote I provided is likely to be genuine? And that it is a stated instruction of ISIS rather than an opinion based on a quote from the Mail? If so do you accept that the is at some level a threat or potential threat to the West posed by ISIS? 

 

I ask because you seem to be wanting to just brush that under the carpet and return to a previous question you asked on a different topic, a question which also seemed more rhetorical than an actual question.

 

But in answer, I don't know and I'm not quite sure about the numbers you quote to be honest AWOL and Ads are probably in a far better position to answer than I am. But from my perspective I'd imagine the main reasons they deserted were a combination of fear and the desertion of their command.

 

Should they have destroyed what they left behind? Again, others are better placed to comment but yes I'd imagine they should. But I'm not sure that them leaving their positions and their weapons is somehow evidence that they were complicit in some huge conspiracy theory of the West in order to arm ISIS indirectly. 

 

I don´t know why you put so much weight on a quote from someone you had never heard of a month ago.

How do you know it isn´t pure propaganda intended to swell their ranks?

So i´m sure the quote is genuine but not sure he isn´t Bagdad Bob v2.

I got my numbers from the MSM, who surely painted a picture of a scary group with their description of the army running

despite outnumbering them almost 40/1.

Awol seem to agree with me that it was an ordered stand-down, but I disagree with his reasoning.

It doesn´t explain why western personel or drones didn´t take/booby-trap/destroy those weapons.

It isn't a quote from the Daily Mail, its a quote of someone the Daily Mail (and other news outlets) are quoting, a fairly sizable difference but seemingly one you've overlooked I suspect because you haven't actually read the article.

Its a quote from a spokesman from IS and a video they've released.

Unless of course you are suggesting that it is in fake a hoax created by the West to inspire the murder of their citizens for some utterly bizarre hidden agenda that only you are aware of.

Not everything in this world is some dark conspiracy of the state, sometimes there are just nutters in the world and IS are a pretty extreme example of that.

So how about that quote? Yeah, thanks but I think I will pay more interest to the quote of a contemporary and seemingly a member of IS than someone who died nearly 30 years ago.

Please give me a logical answer to my question on the Iraqi soldiers leaving weapons and then laugh and point.

30.000 soldiers running from 800 Isis after 3 days of sporadic fighting at Mosul leaving loads of weaponry behind.

They would surely also be accompagnied by some western advisors.

I am not asking for sofisticated booby trapping, but blow the shit up.

Both duty and survival instincts should kick in.

Yeah we should all form our opinion from a quote from the Daily Mail.

How about this quote:

"Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the State." - James Jesus Angleton

 

 

 

that phrase 'small price to pay' is quite Orwellian in its own way

Indeed it is, but I fear our pals in the IS are far more of a threat to the west than our understandably cynical public are prepared to accept.

 

Why?

Not even Israel really seem scared of them.

The usually scream of red lines and nukes if anyone farts in their general direction.

It's not about them posing a conventional threat of invasion to western countries, it's the asymmetric threat.

Syria was awash with WMD before the civil war and given the amount of military facilities IS and other Islamist groups have captured I find it hard to believe they haven't obtained chemical or biological weapons/agents.

Add to that the recent announcements by Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and AQ in the Islamic Maghreb that they and other groups should form one common front with IS. AQAP has the most sophisticated Islamist bomb makers out there while AQIM has huge ungoverned space (the Saheel) in which to operate, plus seaborne access to the Med and Atlantic.

Add to that the clear and strong links between these various groups and certain communities in the west (now in UK alone containing 100's of veterans from the Syrian/Iraq conflict), the stated aims of these groups to launch attacks within western countries.

The mix of those factors is potentially explosive and while we as publics obviously shouldn't be scared, neither should we delude ourselves that it's all a plot by capitalist authoritarian 1%ers to gallop of with our civil liberties in a swag bag.

I don't often agree with Blair but we do need to destroy the core of IS quick sharp. If that means we have to accept military casualties to achieve the aim then so be it.

 

We arm them, fund them and trade with them. They are controlled opposition.

Think about all those Iraq soldiers just leaving their weapons.

Even if it wasn´t standard procedure, wouldn´t they take the few seconds to destroy them before they ran?

They didn´t, because they were ordered to leave them in crisp condition.

Blair is just warmongering. Again.