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Isn't Brum already the second city?

Have a scout round t'internet and you will see Manchester marketing itself as the second city.

Oh yeah, would you mind giving me arguments for and against each city as well if poss please? Ta.

Birmingham or Manchester. Go away, think about it, and come back and vote.

No, I'll stick to Beavis and Butthead thankyou very much.

King of the Hill is watchable though.

Sounds a bit complicated for me.

These people that 'don't get' South park are probably people that remember it when it first started out, when it was just toilet humour.

Now it is quite simply the best piece of TV there is. It is far cleverer than the others and very relevant as it focuses on topical issues and satire.

You also can't help but agree with nearly every message they put accross, every single religion has been a victim of their expose and it usually makes so much sense.

If you do start watching it make sure you catch it from series 5 onwards.

I thought it was better when it was toilet humour.

Why has no-one mentioned Beavis and Butthead, or Ren and Stimpy?

Philistines, the lot of you.

Two nuns are driving down a road late at night when a vampire jumps onto the bonnet. The nun who is driving says to the other, "Quick! Show him your cross." So the other nun leans out of the window and shouts, "Get off our **** car you word removed!!"

Someones been watching old 'Vicar of Dibley's'

Pearl Jam - Jeremy

Straight question Yes or no? I've been keeping half an eye on them (lets face it, when you live in Birmingham it's hard to ignore them - especially when all but one of the missus family are on the 'dark side') and frankly, they a VERY poor side - extremely inconsistent. Bruce in my view needs 11 new players to stand a chance of staying up. They have an impotent forward line, a weak midfield and a leaky defence. The only reason they've finished where they have is that apart from Sunderland, this is the poorest Championship I've ever seen.

Going down!

Just for laughs, last seasons scum bashing

25 last Saturday. God I feel old.

Erm, Aston Villa V Barcelona at the San Siro.

Need to remember that his is Gabby's first season of first team football and in the Express today there was an article talking about an England call up. What a meteoric rise!

Gareth Barry. How he hasn't got in the England starting XI is beyond me.

Neither. Good bloke, good striker at times, not so at others and should've gone last summer really.

Agree. Villa heroes are Dennis Mortimer, Paul McGrath and Sid Cowans, i.e players that 'achieved'. He does not stand up to players like that. Neither was he as bad as players like Bosko Balaban or Najran Gharyib (sp). I will remember him more for his loyalty and attitude rather than success.

Sounds like John Motson shouting 'yeess' when ManU scored against us last season. rocket polisher.

At the end of the day, he's got to do what is best for his career and his future. He's not in the same pay league as your Rooneys or Gerrards, and he'll probably get more money playing for the Blue filth than Foolham. Besides this, he's a liability as far as defending goes and far too error prone to replace Cahill, Melly or Laursen (or even Ridgewell). Should be good for few laughs if we play the scum next season, though.

Anyway according to wikipedia, he's from Solihull, which would tend to be a 'nose catchment area.

If the TV service offered by Virgin was of the same standard as Sky's I would choose Virgin out of principle. I am not so fussed about the channels offered however, I hate the slow channel changes on Virgin and the fact that the interactive features cannot be used. I can honestly say that these are the only reasons I went with Sky.

My channel changes are instant and I have all the interactive features including teleport replay and TV on demand as well as loads of features I don't even need. Do you have the supreme package (which is what I have)?

I don't have Virgin but my girlfriends parents do and certainly at their place when I I change the channels it takes a few seconds for the channel details to come up and for the channel to change. It is a small issue which I have a big problem with. The features you don't get are the ones such as Football First, Match Selections for the Champions League to name but two.

ironically, they are two of the things I don't bother with!

Sky, because Virgin is shit.

Wow! I'll bet you were captain of the debate team at school! :winkold:

If the TV service offered by Virgin was of the same standard as Sky's I would choose Virgin out of principle. I am not so fussed about the channels offered however, I hate the slow channel changes on Virgin and the fact that the interactive features cannot be used. I can honestly say that these are the only reasons I went with Sky.

My channel changes are instant and I have all the interactive features including teleport replay and TV on demand as well as loads of features I don't even need. Do you have the supreme package (which is what I have)?

I have been a loyal Telewest / Virgin customer for 4 years now and have not a bad word to say about them. Customer service and quality of service has been superb. I support Mr Branson 100% in standing up to Rupert Murdoch and I for one will not desert Virgin media just because I can't watch the Simpsons anymore.