jon_c

They can't even get back into the building as it's not safe.  How are they meant to have done an investigation yet? And people storming a building at this point demanding justice. I get people are emotional, but what are they expecting to happen? Throw a random target under the bus, and probably end up blaming the wrong people. 

OK, sleeping with his team mates wife, that he got a super injunction over, because that's the kind of d**k he is.

Racially abusing a team mate. Fined two weeks wages, for an "incident" he had with some Americans at Heathrow, right after 9/11. Charged after a fight with night club bouncer. Investigated for taking money from an undercover reporter for doing unauthorised tours of the training ground. 

And on the pitch his constant berating of referees, encapsulates everything I can't stand about some modern footballers.

Apart from that I've always thought Terry to be hugely a overrated player, whose needed a quality defender alongside him (Carvalho, Ferdinand etc.) to look any good. Let's not forget that he is a horrible human being, who would just be another d**k in a dressing room that could do with losing some of those d**ks.

Just no.

10 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

On the point you were addressing, I completely agree that it's silly to say things like 'Corbyn can never get enough seats to form a majority government', when we don't even know whether the next election will be in three months or five years. It's just making hostages to fortune. 

You can't say never in current world politics, but he'd have to gain 40 more seats. That's the current gain doubled plus ten. And people are high fiving about how amazing the current gain was. 

Realistically, if he can't do something about his lack of popularity in Scotland, it won't happen. 

Just now, darrenm said:

Anyway, the way I see things going

Monday is going to be crazy. I think there may be perhaps conversations going behind the scenes between all centre/left parties. Labour, Lib Dem, Green, SNP, Plaid will possibly put out their Queen's speech and ask the house to invalidate the Tory / DUP coalition. Then we'd have a rainbow minority. Which would be fine.

I think it would be very destructive to both the Lib Dems and SNP to enter into that coalition. Particularly given their strong anti-brexit stance. 

Also, I can't begin to imagine how they'd make up the cabinet. 

2 minutes ago, darrenm said:

All inner cities and metropolitan areas are left leaning. Countryside and shires are right. Kensington shouldn't be that much of a shock.

I wouldn't say all and right leaning, I live in the countryside and the Tories came fourth, and UKIP fifth. 

You know what it is with Kensington all the people that live there are registered abroad for a tax dodge. So the only people actually registered to vote in the area are the live in staff. 

I think most parties have pretty much failed. Tories lost their majority, Labour were still 40 seats short. Lib Dems still marginalised and SNP down significantly. UKIP well, enough said. 

Let's have new leaders all round !

4 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

I wonder how many Tory MPs are opposed to the DUP deal? And how many are pro-EU? 

I wonder if any of them might contemplate crossing the floor to the LibDems? 

Just a thought. 

Only one Tory voted against the enacting Article 50, if that's any sort of indicator. 

3 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said:

Can anyone point me in the direction of Corbyn's anti Semitic remarks?

I was speaking to a Jewish lady at work who said she's voting conservative because she could never vote for an anti-Semite like Corbyn.

I asked her what he had said and she just responded with "Every Jewish person hates him, he must have done something wrong"

I think people are associating support of Hamas as "anti-Jew"

1 minute ago, Demitri_C said:

How embarrassing for the Labour Party. What fools

corbyn showed them

By losing the election? To an absolutely awful Tory campaign. 

I feel like I missed something with all the celebration and we have a Labour government. Not a hard right May-Dup coalition. 

5 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

Yeah, I have to agree that there isn't a standout replacement. Incredible that they've been in office for seven years, largest party in three elections, yet seem to have such a shallow bench

They should just troll everyone, and go for top europhile Ken Clarke. 

Apparently the Conservatives lost every marginal constituency that Theresa May visited during the election. 

Clive Lewis just on the telly saying imagine how Corbyn would've done if backed fully by the party. Clive Lewis resigned (rightly so imo) from Corbyn's shadow cabinet. 

2 hours ago, bickster said:

Posted on my FB earlier

Jawas? 

1 hour ago, BOF said:

I may be wrong here but I get the impression people on mainland UK generally leave the minutae of Northern Irish day to day politics to itself i.e. you wouldn't know a whole lot about the politicians in NI other than maybe being familiar with their names.  Here's a little twitter thread about who May might be getting into bed with.

I'm fairly certain you could do a list of horrific opinions like this from some Tory MP's too, so they'd should be perfect bedfellows.

Averaged number of votes each party got overall per seats in parliament they won.
SNP 27930
DUP 29231
SF 34130
PC 41111
CON 42927
LAB  49266
LD 197254
GP 524604

Just now, hippo said:

The question is what is a stronger candidate ?  - My opinion is that a centrist leader from Dan Jarvis or Keir starmer would serve labour best. But the grassroots of labour will quite rightly dispute that.

I'm not sure, I think Jarvis would do well across the country, but maybe not for Corbyn. For a further left candidate it might be someone like Clive Lewis?

3 minutes ago, hippo said:

What does the future hold for JC ?

I hold my hand up - he's fought a great campaign, won 30 more seats , and increased labour share of the vote.

That said - he's on 260 seats - quite some distance from ever forming a majority labour government. His main angle now will be to ensure his successor comes from the left of the party - which might not be that straightforward. But that is the legacy he would want. I don't think he would want to fight another election when he is in in his 70's.

The best thing he could do for the party (and the country) is stand down, but back a strong candidate for his replacement. Keeping his supporters but potentially appealing to the wider base needed to actually win an election.

No chance that will happen, though. 

Just now, This Could Be Rotterdam said:

Youth turnout predicted at 74% compared to 43% in the last election. Amazing by Corbyn! 

If only he'd have bothered to try and mobilize that vote in the EU referendum.

1 minute ago, Demitri_C said:

No cant accept that, i think you should blame the 51.9% who voted for it

I blame both, just saying it was a terrible political decision in his part.

22 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Has their ever been a worse decision in uk politics than May calling this election?

Cameron calling the EU referendum? At least May's decision is only damaging to her. Not the whole country.

Corbyn's Labour popping corks, after not beating the worst offering I've ever witnessed from a Tory party tells me all you need to know about them. 

Not enough to oust the Tories and not enough to change the leadership, is about the worst result I could've hoped for. (Bar a huge Tory majority)

7 minutes ago, theboyangel said:

Regardless if the conservatives are the largest party after the counting has finished, I just hope the result is embarrassing enough for the Tory's to bin Theresa may. 

I would chuckle all weekend. 

As much as I hate May, I'd hold off chuckling at her binning, because her replacement could be even worse.