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I’d rather not pay high prices, but I have more respect for Chelsea who charge a flat £48 rather than the way other clubs (ourselves included) target certain clubs with category prices. I know we’re not a charity and we need to compete, but it does seem a method lacking in fairness.

But in saying that, I don’t need an excuse to take the piss out of one of our Mickey Mouse neighbours. Can’t sell out for two local derbies on the spin? That's wank support, you great unwashed, inbred, troglodyte, Yam-Yam, plane pointing, toss bags.

I was there last night and was quite surprised by how many were there. I reckon 4000ish, as the three central blocks were full, a block to the right of centre was 90% full and the block to the left of centre had a good smattering of fans in.

These blocks all hold 1000 each, so you’re looking at over 4000.

I read it on their forum- one of their lot had been down to the ticket office and passed comment.

The price is high, but so was ours at their place and there's minimal travel costs involved in this. Piss poor effort from them.

They’re charging £12 a coach ticket- now that is a rip off! £2 on the tram to Snow Hill, then walk/bus/train up the road to the Home of Football.

The Dingles have only sold 1800 of a reduced allocation. Piss poor.

Around an hour and fifteen minutes.

Saturday 5:15pm kick-off.

I don’t.

I think we’re a top side who shook off our cup final defeat hangover in the second 45 at Reading, after being reminded that actually, we’re not too shabby an outfit.

I think Stoke are a decent side, strong at home, but will suffer from going to Turf Moor and being without Etherington and Shawcross. A draw at the least, but I wouldn’t be shocked by a Villa win.

Sorry lads, Stoke 2-1 Villa

We will go 1-0 up at half time, Gabby - but they will pull it back and score a late winner again

Do you have the exact times of the scorers as well?

I don't play WoW myself, but I think you lot might like this.

Where's the TV Remote going?!

No, he’s got far too much to offer attacking wise.

The game isn't going to be off though.

Isn't rain on for tomorrow up there?

Not true. Pubs open as usual.

No need to find address, its right off the A666 as you leave the motorway and go round the island into Blackburn. It will be on your left. Darwen Grammar or something like that. Its right by a decent little pub called the Golden Cup and only a ten minute walk down to the ground.

Or jumping in a taxi.

Of course it’s rare, nobody else gets a look in for the Champions League and Europa League isn’t worth the effort financially and at the expense of chasing the elite.

English clubs do dominate Europe. Liverpool mumping it up this season doesn’t change that. Chelsea will be there or there abouts, as will Man United. To break into the top four of this league, with the extensive financial advantages that the Sky Four has over the rest of the league would be an excellent achievement. If we got there, it would be because we were consistently good enough. Your argument for me lacks logic. Shit teams don’t finish 4th, bloody good ones do.

Did you know that in 1972 James Milner was sent to prison by a crown court for a crime he didn't commit. James Milner promptly escaped from a maximum security prison to the Leeds underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a hard working winger.

If you have a ball that needs crossing - if no one else can help - and if you can find him - maybe you can hire: James Milner.

We don't play "shit football" anyway. When we're on form we're exciting to watch, entertaining, scintillating and all those other adjectives.

Like any team, when we're off form, or not quite on form, we're not nearly so enjoyable to watch, but we have gained some resilience to help see us through on those occasions.

I don't think we're ever "scintillating". Sometimes we're crudely efficient, and we have three players in Gabby, Young and Carew who are exciting to watch when playing well, but scintillating? No chance. When we're playing well it's all about quick balls out to the wings. When we're not, it's the same tactic which is easily negated when Young is off form, or hoofs up to Carew and Agbonlahor. With the money O'Neill has spent, we shouldn't be outplayed by the likes of Wigan, Blackburn and Burnley, but that's what happened.

I'd love to see somebody who knows a thing or two about coaching football in the way it should be played given the reins at Villa Park, because under O'Neill we're just Leicester with more expensive players.

We were outplayed by Blackburn? Are you serious?

I was there, I watched it, I thought we were poor and the performance unacceptable, but at no point were we outplayed by Nova Bolton. The same with regards to Burnley, for 45 minutes, they had the run of the park. The second 45 was a different matter.

That doesn't make sense. Why would it be worthless?

If this supposed shit football got us into 4th spot, then it shows its very effective and that the vast majority of the league cannot cope with it.

the premier league is pretty poor these days though

Is it? The Sky 4 dominate Europe, so dislodging one of them from their top four birth could not be argued away with such a daft argument.

That doesn't make sense. Why would it be worthless?

If this supposed shit football got us into 4th spot, then it shows its very effective and that the vast majority of the league cannot cope with it.

... i'd happily take "shit" football if it gets us top 4 or better at season end ...

why? whats the point?

so we can see ourselves get knocked out in the cl qualifiers?

What do suggest? That we don't bother, as we might fail?

Why not give it a chance and try the novel idea of not replacing manager every 4 years?

The main reason for me is that O'Neill is into his 4th year, and yet here we are

5th, three points off 4th, with a chance to close that on Saturday....

....still playing shit football.

We don't play any more shit football than our rivals. We lack consistency, which is why we can go from a sublime 90 minutes against Bolton, to an awful first 45 at Burnley.

Why not give it a chance and try the novel idea of not replacing manager every 4 years?

The main reason for me is that O'Neill is into his 4th year, and yet here we are

5th, three points off 4th, with a chance to close that on Saturday.

It takes about 2 hours 15 minutes to get from junction 8 to junction 26 of the M6 for me with all these roadwork’s (all five sets of 50 mph aggregate speed limiting!) which is adding between forty five minutes and an hour onto the journey. The next lot are up by the Lakes, so its a clear run past 23.

Give yourself an hour for the road works and factor in United being at home, so all in all it will take around an hour and a half longer than usual.

I don’t want to say impossible, as it probably could be done, but you’d need at least a platoon of bears to swarm him of all differenty types.

I’m not convinced that the bears could do that much damage to the T-Rex’s hide, or get close enough to do it, as he’s just going to steam them at the start and knock them flying, which will put a load out of action for a start.

I suppose the bears could counter this by having a loose understanding of Rugby Union, with Grizzlies propping and Polar bears in the second row, they could be able to take the impact. But even then, the T-Rex is the size of a bus and can probably go as fast as the average number 9, so that’s a lot of blunt force trauma and the whole line of props and second row are probably going to have their necks broken.

Still, a rolling maul might force the T-Rex back, so some smaller and quicker, but still lairy black bears could flank him and distract him, allowing a Grizzly shcok bears to start giving his canister a good shoeing. The problem is, the T-Rex skull is so massive, I’m not sure if they’d be able to do enough damage before he turned round and started biting the **** out of them.

Surrounding him might be a good idea, but you have to remember that any flanking manoeuvre is fraught with difficulties of his tail giving them a cheeky swish that would do some serious damage itself.

Maybe a pack of ninja style pandas could use their skills to sneak up on him while he’s battling the big bears and take out his eyes. That would be a big disadvantage. But then again, his sense of smell is pretty good, so he might just start head butting the bears and wind milling his tail about.

Tough job on for the bears if you ask me.