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Bambi on ice this evening, unfortunately

2 minutes ago, Xela said:

He needs Kamara alongside him to be at his best. 

If he can't step up to the plate when better players are injured, then Villa need to cash in on him 

5 minutes ago, VillanousOne said:

how many times has he lost the ball in or outside of the penalty area, or give away a foul there

Too many. Always itching for a card too

9 minutes ago, claretman said:

 It is also Alan Smith who grew up supporting Aston Villa, having been born just eight miles from Birmingham. 

A quick google confirms what I thought I knew.  As I said, he tries a bit too hard to compensate during his commentary.

He's been very consistent at for many a year, which always led me to believe he wasn't a fan.

I noticed some aloof comments in the "Aston Villa Crest" thread, about how we live in an era where people have "contempt for experts", which were verging on the apeal to authority fallacy. So I thought I'd post this here.

This amusing documentary is just one example of why sometimes so called experts draw contempt.  A self taught recluse from Bolton (who lived just down the road from my uncle), fooled the British Museum and antiquity dealers for years. Armed with supplies from B&Q and a garden shed, he became Britain's greatest ever forger.

9 minutes ago, MrBlack said:

I thought someone posted the new rules saying majority of fans have to be in favour.  How are they going to judge that if they don't put it to vote. 

 

Sales.  Put it on an Adidas shirt, sales go through the roof, et voila, set it in stone for the next 15 years.

3 hours ago, thabucks said:

Sad part of FFP for me is that it incentivises the selling of homegrown academy players and from that POV it makes sense financially to sell Jacob Ramsey this summer to book pure profit.

It shouldn't incentivise such sales.  There ought to be FFP concessions for young players being developed from the academy up to the age of 24-25, depending on how many PL games they play.  That would be a great way to incentivise homegrown talent.

2 hours ago, Enda said:

The “hard to distinguish from a marketing perspective” is an ill-fated approach, in my view, on two fronts.

Firstly, every actual fan recognizes it immediately. The only people who don’t recognize it are people the club are trying to attract. The focus is thus on potential new fans, rather than the existing life-long supporters. That’s a mistake, in my view.

Secondly, I reject the premise that this should be dictated by the marketing team. Football is a business, I know, and revenue generation is important. I know. But the crest of the club is something too important to be left up to the marketing team. It’s iconic. Handing the reins to Johnny in marketing (or Chris H) is cheap and short-sighted. Give it more class, you money-grabbing dickwads.

Just another drop in the ocean of marketing "experts" appealing to the lowest common denominator, in this case potential fair weather fans. 

The only thing to do is not buy any products with the new badge on, but i suspect most fans will get their wallets out anyway.  That's why they think they'll get away with it.

20 hours ago, DCJonah said:

Thought Heck was a disaster. 

Maybe we should let people do their job. 

To be fair, people aren't trying to stop him from doing his job, they're trying stop him making a big balls up of the badge.  

I called this back in June:  Heck will put out some cheap tacky plastic badge. 

Simply dont buy anything with the new badge on.  That's the only way to get the message through.  Maybe Heck thinks that he can just do as he pleases because he expects all the fans to get their wallets out when a new shirt is put out.  Don't like the badge? vote with your wallet.

It sure does!

1 hour ago, Jas10 said:

Can’t understand why anyone with half a brain would think sticking with yellow on light blue would make sense or work…

"Trust the experts", apparently.  I kinda get the sense that those who moan about the roundel are also those who moan about claret shorts

Dewsbury-Hall, is a good shout to strengthen the left side and add creativity.  8 goals and 9 assists for Leicester so far.  He can also play centrally too.

4 hours ago, nick76 said:

For some fans maybe but for the majority who wanted a round badge this was bad idea.

The U-turn on the roundel is even worse given that the badge was born from fan consultation.  It was a big middle finger to the fans, imo.  It's also interesting that a minority of fans who dislike the roundel, label it as "nostalgia", despite the fact that of all the badges Villa have had, it's the only one that's actually worked effectively.  Yet whatever the badge will be they still want the same old Lion Rampant.

16 minutes ago, DJBOB said:

He’s got a lot of credit in the bank so I think an off night is due. 
 
But this game a reminder that if someone is willing to offer silly money (100M+), it should be considered because only the Messi’s of the world really should have that kind of valuation. 

If City came in at that price I'd snap their hand off.  

Hopefully it will force a buy for a left sided midfielder who can create play on the left wing, because nearly every RB who plays against villa is having an easy time.  Can't rely on Digne alone, all he ever does is pass backwards.

Luiz poor without out best midfielder playing alongside him.  

Ramsey makes us look like we're playing with 10 men

Watkins giving the ball away persistantly for the 3rd or 4th game in a row.

Laboured build up play yet again, inviting pressure.

All on Emery this one.  His away record is still mediocre.  Why he didnt change things earlier when everyone but him could see it going wrong is bizarre.

68mins still playing like we are in 2016, and no changes! utter garbage 

Can't rely on officials giving much.  Need to rely on creating chances, which we did little of.  Too laboured in going forward for most of the game.  Just as we had stepped a gear in the 2nd half, the 2 most attacking players were taken off.  Bizarre sub decisions.  

He reminds of the bumbling Captain Ashwood on "It Aint Half Hot Mom".  Especially in his latest press conference lacking an answer as to why Henderson was included.

10 hours ago, Ginko said:

All evidence suggests Chris Heck was brought in to spearhead a rebrand that will make us unique and instantly recognisable. A lion rampant is far from that.

I think a lot of fans who want to keep our traditional imagery are going to be very disappointed by the time this project is completed.

I agree.  I was thinking it over about why he doesn't like the new badge.  He created a roundel badge for the 76ers, so it's not the shape itself (plus 8 other NBA teams use a roundel).  I think he doesn't believe a lion rampant works well in a circle, but works well on a shield.  However, from what he says in the youtube video, he would be keen to base a new badge on the one used for the European Cup win because of heritage and happier days etc.  Therefore, if he went with the roundel, the lion would have to change to fit well in a circle, which could be  the use of the lion rampant's head only, facing left as an example.  This would imo, be more simplistic and effective as an immediately recognisable image.  I'm usually conservative about these things, but I do think the use of a heraldic full lion rampant has had its day.

Otherwise, if the Lerner shield is kept, change the lion to claret as it just doesn't stand out well as yellow against light blue background.

The badge will end up as plastic as Arsenal's at this rate.  The Randy Lerner badge; gold lion on light blue doesn't work.  The Ellis shield was ok, the stripes kind of spoiled it, and from what I can remember it was only done because clubs couldn't TM (or whatever the term is) their old badge for the start of the Premier League. 

I do find it bizarre that so many supporters have very little care for the roundel badge we won the league and European Cup with.  I thought the new design was good, keeping the gold to a minimum.  And to make it different from the old roundel, using a lion faced right which was used from 1878-1882 (so not wrong at all).

So the new CEO is clearly determined start on the wrong foot with supporters.  How many more gaffs is he going to make?  A pitty he isn't so keen to get that Doug Ellis name removed off the Witton Lane Stand

I know the appointment smacks of desperation, but I have to say with the ageism that's beloved so much on this forum;  How's the other "old dinosaur" doing at Crystal Palace?  A big change from the fetal Vieraball