TheTrees, I think it's that patience, Martinez wouldn't come in immediately we hit it off, basically MON has hit us for 6 and the sooner people realise that the better. We made huge losses last year, now Lerner and the team are trying to resolve the free reign he gave MON, yes he made a mistake but he did it for the best interests in our club, sometimes you have to take two step backwards before making the jump. I think its about changing the culture of the club, which is thoroughly needed in my opinion, we can look all day at his stats and see whether he is right or wrong for the club.