Richard

Petchey may not be the major shareholder but if this was the case then he has enough clout to actually do something about it. No one is a majority shareholder.

Just to confirm I have just got back from Villa Park and apart from a couple of corporate events, feck all is happening

It's not my business what other people choose to do. But it seems strange to complain about the club's lack of funds for players, while not attending games. The club need the money.

If 5000 don't go for 19 home games, that's around £2.5m lost. As an example.

ANd if the club was marketed properly or was sufficiently attractive enough then there would be no need to worry about the 5000 you mention who don't go. There would be 20,000 waiting to replace them.

Do you think our fan base is restricted to the amount of people we can get into the ground?

the stance we choose to take of self sacrifice for the greater good, even if its only a small impact on my individual part, is in the hope that things will change for the better...

if thats damaging short term but makes our long term future better, then thats the cross we have to bare....

How noble the Villa Park martyrs are. How enlightened that they can see what us 'normal' Villa fans cannot.

Did your boycott mean you didn't go to Rotterdam?

No, you see Ellis wasn't in charge then

Must be nasty to have made that decision and still fancy individual games. My uncle is on the same non-Villa diet and he's had to stop himself wanting to go to specific games. Blose this season is the most obvious yet. A little vein goes in his head when it comes up in conversation. Poor bastard.

I made the decision and the wife bought me a season ticket

The price has now gone up by a couple of pence. That is as good as the other was bad. That is, not very as it makes no difference at this stage

exactly rich it seems that the drivers behind this are not the main people as such and thus they are trying persuade reluctant people to take part

Thats certainly my take. May be wrong though

I don't think it will happen any more. I really want it to, but I just don't see either party being eager to resolve it.

Not sure TBH. I think the behind the scenes of both sides are eager to resolve it.

The behind the scenes of Ellis being his family and the behind the scenes of the Comers being Villa fan Neville

But if there is a fixed price agreed between vendor and purchaser, that surely has no earing on the other share price?

It could also mean that large investors are selling high in order to buy low. Just turning over their investment to make money.

It's no big deal

Yeah but does it tell you anything about this take over fiasco, apart from that it aint going through ??

No. It is neither a bad thing or a good thing

Out, as soon as is humanly practical

I didn't live to see it, since I was born in 1985, but it is highly recognized that our win in the Champions League was due to poor opposition early on,

Highly recognised by who exactly?

Take it from someone who was there. We were awesome for three seasons. We were champions of Europe. That is officially the best club side in europe.

Villa fans in playing down the history of the club shock. Or should I say you call yourself fans. Disgracfeul

Onto the takeover.

The month was up

The 48 hours is now up

What next?

I think there's more to it than price.

My comment on the £11 was that I doubt very much whether Ellis takes his responsibility to shareholders very seriously at all. I suspect he sees them as a hinderance.

As such if I believe that he ignores his responsibility to them, then I cannot see how he is working with their interests at heart now

Stakeholders. I take that word to include me, as a fan. And he's not doing what I expect of him. I'm pretty sure a few shareholders feel the same in their position too.

Stakeholders are anyone with an interest in the company. So fans are included, as are employees.

It's the chairmans responsibility to maximise shareholders return on investment.

What about those that invested £11 per share?

Not necassrily the case you see. It is his responsibility to act as stewared of the company for shreholders and stakeholders. Return on investment is never guaranteed. The value of shares can go down as well as up.

Losing interest now.

Someone wake me up when this is over one way or t'other.

For now I'l just concentrate on what the club is all about, football.

The way the club are leaking information is a f'cking disgrace its supposed to be a plc not a tinpot business!

I'd agree with this Mike.

In addition I don't think that people can call Ellis a liar and say he lies all the time and then go and believe him over this. That just wouldn't be consistent would it.

Mr Denis_B who has been saying for a while now that we may be subject to a different takeover to the one we thought we may have

there are apparently a 6 strong team of investers willing to buy into the constortium but the commers are about to pull out, after michael neville has failed to convince them that its worth buying. but talks are still ongoing.

Where is Mr Box when you need him?

Purchases yes. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to see the takeover drag on past the end of Jan or thereabouts, only to collapse and offer up a good excuse for Ellis.

Loans, however, are a different matter

to tell you the truth now ive lost intrest.

if not lost then certainly losing

I'd say it's just about all over

I'd heard that the Comers have actually pulled out because they thought they were buying Leeds and Ellis said, "At least we aren't Leeds".

Or is it because Ellis wouldn't sell them the patent and copywirght to his bicycle kick?

The Comers set up AVIL to carry out this takeover. Is it true that Ellis has responded by setting up his own company to thwart this called EVIL , Ellis Villa Interference Limited ?

EDITED for inacurracies

Feck me check internet activity as another website goes into meltdown with anther 5000 page thread