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This is turning into the Barry Banan bashing forum. The guy is a Villa player and has done nothing to merrit such abuse. Even seen someone say he had a really bad attitude as he doesnt care when he makes a bad pass, like come on. He isnt even playing past load of games so i dont see why people have to keep on about him.
Yes if he has a bad game talk about it for the few days after and let it be at that.
I really really want him to be a great player. Honestly I really do. However, I am not buying into any of this statistical bullshit that contradicts what my own eyes tell me of his performances to date.
I have asked if Bannan has ever taken a corner kick that we have scored from?........Ever!
The response & silence is deafening.
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Maybe the away fans with the flag were supporting Sebastian Larsson.
In that case.( assuming it's a Sunderland flag).............." Stick the flag, stick the flag, stick the flag right up your Lars!"
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Fabulous news!
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I for one still remain totally & utterly unconvinced by this bullshit, entertaining as it is. Bannan is just totally crap & not just at corners.
The bottom line is that there are lies, damned lies & statistics!
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Anyone settle for 1pt before Norwich game. Means wigan will have to win 2 out of their last 4 to be level on points with us
I definitely would. Another pt on the board could prove precious in the greater scheme of things & especially now that we have repaired our goal difference to comparable levels of Newcastle & Wigan.
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The Manager would ofcourse be DOL.I know of a ginger headed Scot who was a wee bit worse
As the OP I can't believe I overlooked this! Unreal!...............It just couldn't possibly be anybody else could it? Sincere apologies to DOL
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I've just worked out how to prevent Villa from ever conceding from a corner ever again?
It's so simple.
Just get Bannan to take them for the opposition!
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Let's face it, we've had some absolute shocking players on our books this past 20 years haven't we, dragging the great name of our beloved claret & blue heroes to new lows of crapness with their totally scandalous performances plummeting new levels & depths of sheer & utter ineptitude since the Premiership's inception in August 1993.
Below I list what can only be described as possibly one of the worst compilation's of any Villa team to disgrace the great name of our footbal club ever. An absolutely shocking monstrosity that even frankenstein would shudder at creating. A team that guarantee's Conference football as it's minimum pre-requisite. A team so bad it makes you want to
For convenience I've gone 4:4:2
Enckelman
Beye Scimeca Alpay Warnock
Djemba-Djemba Hendrie Bannan Boulding
Heskey Harewood
The Manager would ofcourse be DOL.
The biggest problem in this selection was the RB spot as Hutton & Ghrayib were seriously in the frame as extremely strong candidates here so just how crap is Habib Beye?
Do you agree with this team selection or perish the thought have I over looked anyone in my haste? And no! I haven't forgotten about Baros, Salifou or Zat Knight either.
Can you do any better?
Or should that be any worse?
Please tell me it isn't so......................Scary!
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So what actually has happened to Bannan? Is he injured or?
He's practising corners. His first 65 hit the moon. The gaffer told him to aim lower & he hit Saturn!
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You're all being trolled softly.
We are now!
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We've won six games with Bannan. 33% of the games he plays we win - that's about the highest in the squad. The stats aren't lying and I'm not convinced that we have a good reason to interpret good stats badly. When he plays we keep winning. That's the bottom line.
Con, when Bannan plays we keep winning (Your words not mine - see above) To me ( if I didn't know better) this suggests that Bannan is the key player.
Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't Bannan playing in that nightmare 8-0 debacle at Stamford Bridge or does he only take the credit when we win.
Also Con, can you tell me if we have ever scored off a Bannan corner in all the games he has played in since he made his debut?.
Over to you.
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So with Benteke the best target man in Europe
How come the best crosser in England,cannot put the ball on his head?
Because the stats are FLAWED and Bannan's are all about percentages (I bet he has one area, the only area he can put the ball), where-as people like Westwood (who have the gift and ability to find a player from a corner) can set up goals - because they have the ability to put the ball into dangerous areas.
Mass media are statistically innumerate when it suits them for a good story, and I'm surprised you fell for it. Maybe,
Carroll and Crouch win a greater percentage of their headers than Benteke. Benteke is top only on the total numbers of headers won, which only shows he's played more games than Carroll and Crouch.
What? On the site you provided Crouch has 8.1 for aerial duels won. Benteke has 8.2. How is he better?
Won per game. That's not proportion.
Scroll over you get the actual number of headers won / total aerial duels.
Number of duels won per game is also an effect of team possession, number of crosses sent in which can depend on set pieces won.
If you want to know how good Benteke is one-on-one compared to the other two, you need the proportion - headers won / total aerial duels * 100
The frightening thing from our POV is Benteke is still getting better. This is his first season and he's right up there.
Con, the research you provide is both fascinating & entertaining. Inversely it is also misleading & perverse because it is corrupted by intepretation.
Unless you are Paul Daniels or David Blane then my own eyes do not deceive me & tell me that your stats are telling porkies that you are choosing to believe.
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First of all, you lot expected the statistics to show Westwood's corner kicks were much better and more reliable than Bannan's.
Actually, I've proven - with the Squawka.com record - that Bannan's kicks are not only more reliable they are on average better (more potential assists).
Now this didn't have to happen. I could have researched it and found confirmation for your thesis that Bannan was worse than Westwood. I found the opposite.
Now you're running around like headless chickens trying to find a reason why those stats have to be wrong.
Con, why are you trying to deny the 2 goals from Westwoods corners. They are statistics. You cannot have your cake & eat it.
Also, the only headless chicken that I am aware of is Barry Bannan with his continual crap floaty corners.
I believe, though genuine, you are living in denial as surely nobody could become so obsessed or delusional about a fact that is staring them in the face.
Right now, Barry Bannan is a crap footballer, a crap corner taker & a total liability & until I physically see any improvement nothing will change my mind.
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And a massively overhit corner that is collected on the opposite touchline by our player is "accurate" as is an underhit one that our player manages to get a toe on in front of the first man.
There are no "accurate" corners like that on Bannan's record. Double check yourself. If there were, I'd file it under "Fail".
First of all, stop talking shit Con. You did not watch all the crosses so you did not "file" it anywhere. Someone at whoscored did.
Secondly, while I disagree with Con about the validity of the key pass stat, it is probably as good as we can do but is still inherently flawed, his basic premise is correct.
Assists do not tell the story. To have an assist, two things have to happen. The first is player A has to create a chance. The second is player B has to put away the chance.
If player A creates a chance that player B then fails to convert, then no assist is given. So if you only look at assists you are penalizing player A for the inability of player B. For this reason, the idea behind the key pass stat is much more telling that assists.
And so, to Con's point, Westwood having 2 assists with fewer "good" corners than Bannan is just a statistical anomaly.
Now if the key pass stat actually reflects a good, goal scoring chance is another matter all together......
So the majority of Bannan's corners are down to the inability of the rest of the team?
I'm not buying into that.
The only person liable to get on the end of a Bannan corner is the man on the moon & he's still busy at the moment trying to retrieve Heskeys shots from last season..
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@ghostgoal has written a good piece on why Wigan's late surge last year might be difficult to reproduce. Martinez essentially changed to 3-4-3 in Jan, with the introduction of Beausejour. This took team's by surprise and allowed Wigan to go on a run.
With Rodallega and Moses gone, no January reinforcements and no surprise tactics sprung, Martinez doesn't have the same cards up his sleeve.
That's not to say they won't pull it off again but their "traditional" surge isn't so traditional and isn't just down to an ability to pull results from nowhere.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15129/8674834/All-out-of-surprises
(apologies if link is long - on phone, will fix later if broken)
Am still feeling uneast about Wigan. Martinez is the master of psychology & whose to say he won't come up with another formation that will totally out fox & out manouvre opposition managers & coaches again before close of play on May 19th?
This ain't over yet & I for one am still on edge! Daft as this may seem I was even nervous at 4-1 the other night with bitter memories of the capitulation of such advantages being thrown away both against Leicester & Spurs in recent years to name but two.
It's not over yet.
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there is only one brown sauce and that is not it.
they should know better, posting that on a Villa forum, given the location of the Villa and the location of a well-known brown sauce manufacturer that is not Daddies.
Both Daddies and HP are manufactured in the same place ..................... and it's nowhere near Aston or indeed England. Bloody Heinz
Would that be Karl Heinz Rummenigge by any chance or am I out on my 57 varieties?
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Convinced? You guys are completely irrational.
You won't accept statistical evidence unless it supports your pre-held beliefs, and you can't believe anyone who posts anything that goes against your opinion is not either Bannan, related to him, or paid by him (not his agent).
I'm just a fan who is posting some stats. It's hilarious. I'm not even arguing - currently - he should be in the first XI.
I'm as neutral as it's possible to be, saying what the stats tell us, and still you think I must have some agenda.
Still convinced Con is somehow related to Bannan.. or is Bannan.
Wasn't that Bancon on the bench the other night?
That knocks the theory Bannan wouldn't be seen again because of some supposed Instagram comment (which might have been fake) out of the ballpark.
Well it is easy to overlook him.
and for crying out loud Con, do I have to return and shove those stats into your ears again?
I'll do this so you can understand.
Mr Tennis player, plays it safe.
His serves are soft and simple
This means he gets 100%
His serves are never over-hit
He can put them on a dimple
But Mr Tennis player B
Well he really gets them in
Full of power, he wins the points
can you see him grin?
It's really simple, and not that hard
to hit a simple ball
But like the tennis players who play this game
they never win **** all
Ha ha ha! Are you Ellis in disguise dodgy knees?
& if not that's one hell of a backhander you have there.Sorry Con but I make that game, set & Match To Mr Knees! New balls please.
Any one for Tennis?
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there is only one brown sauce and that is not it.
they should know better, posting that on a Villa forum, given the location of the Villa and the location of a well-known brown sauce manufacturer that is not Daddies.
I don't think they will be very HP about this at all? Think they could be in the brown stuff!
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Still convinced Con is somehow related to Bannan.. or is Bannan.
Wasn't that Bancon on the bench the other night?
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About the 8-0, although Chelsea were brilliant and obviously deserved to win I think on another day the score could've been far lower. Everything just seemed to go right for them that day.
Who knows just how crucial motm Guzan's last minute penalty save might just turn out to be?
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On a related issue does anyone want to buy a nice flag?
(Ill chuck in a jacket to anyone who offers a Wigan ticket!)
Stick to playing the violin Nigel................At least your funny on that!
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Sorry to hear you fantastic Villa followers are no longer in possession of your glorious flag. Hopefully it will turn up & be handed in to the Villa Park reception area for your collection at a later date.
Better still, hopefully it will reappear on the Holte-End v Chelsea & we'll keep it warm for you.
Your `Bork` Chant is fabulous so here's some from me for you for the six goals we scored against the mackems.
"Bork! Bork! Bork! Bork! Bork! Bork!"
Thanks for Ollie!................" We love You Mellberg"
When are you guys next planning to pay us all a visit? We so love you Villa Boys! You're absolutely Magic!
Bork Bork Bork Bork Bork!
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Didn't Barry Bannan take the corner that led to the Sunderland goal?
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Just hope we keep out feet on the ground and work our socks off again. Hughton was there last night, hopefully he shit his pants driving home on the A14.
Anyway same team and let's play lovely counter attack again.
Norfolk police have just confirmed that they have indeed found a pair of suspicious yellow green & BROWN stained boxer shorts that were discarded on the A14 towards Norwich on monday night. Forensic Analysis confirmed that the unfortunate owner had become extremely distressed & disturbed by watching a colossus called Benteke somewhere in the vicinity of B6!
Can all witnesses come forward & contact Norfolk Constabulary on freefone pc plod 999 with any relevant information so that the owner can be reunited & reaquainted with his property.
NB** A reward of a pkt of budgie seed & a free tractor is on offer,
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& if not that's one hell of a backhander you have there.
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There is also a difference between being confident & over confident. Similar to how Mussolini prepared his troops for our showdown at VP monday night. I much prefer the softly softly approach.