Corleone

no movement, no invention very frustrating to watch as Man city have been there for the taking today

How long until Heskey time?

usually 2 mins after sidwell time

shocking defending for the second goal, Adebayor just takes one step back and loses 3 defenders in the process

and so the relentless march to 7th begins

brainless Warnock

We look v dangerous when we go forward

Oh **** off Carew

Ive got a bad feeling about this one 4-1 defeat after going in at ht 1-1

Actually i think weve lpayed well , looked very comfortable and full of energy tonight

**** ref got in the way then

PENALTY!!!!!

Stream slow?

Very. apparantly he's still watching the carling cup final

cant believe he hasnt taken off Heskey!!!!

well still win this

I dont think expecting the manager to sometimes play the best right back at the club at right back for instance is expecting too much.

Cuellar tonight was a hell of a lot better than young was against Chelseagiven that he has been stuck on the bench all season this is no surprise, even so, i dont think he stood out as playing much worse than the rest of team remember we did lose 7-1

I dont think expecting the manager to make proactive changes when its patently obvious week on week that plan A is not working, is too much too ask

What the magical plan B that would have had us hammering a quality Everton side? What exactly would that have been.I dont recall anywhere suggesting that i expected us to hammer an very good everton side, Just a bit of experimentation and realistic opportunity to see what alternatives we have on offer might give us the fresh imputus we seem to have been lacking for a while now

Same team, same tactics, same performance, same result

Same result as what? We haven't had a draw in the last 3 games?

too many negative vibes from this forum imo.

Welcome to VT. God knows how bad it would've been if we'd lost.

you talk about mon cant win? we lose and you moan that people criticise, but if we get a jammy draw via a last minute own goal we are supposed to applaud politely after another second half pasting? we were at home against a team below us in the league you know...

If we are talking about it in those terms then we should beat everyone from the start of the season bar Arsenal as they are lower in the league than us?!

I understand what you are saying though and people can criticise at performances - I just think its all seeming like alot of negativity at the moment though. Everton in all fairness have been playing quite well of late and we are obviously not playing to our full potential - but thats football!

I think people are expecting a bit too much at the moment. I quite like Mantis and his positive vibes though - we need to support MON and the team rather than just criticise at every turn.

I think this is the thing that frustrates most people and manifests itself in negativity, as its clear to most people that root cause of us as a SQUAD not playing to it's full potential stems from MONs stubbornness and Tactical ineptitude.

I dont think expecting the manager to sometimes play the best right back at the club at right back for instance is expecting too much.

I dont think expecting the manager to make proactive changes when its patently obvious week on week that plan A is not working, is too much too ask

Same team, same tactics, same performance, same result

Everton 2nd in the league if it had started at Xmas, our boys tired from the Wembley efforts, a good point that showed we fought till the end. I ignore the crap being spouted by many about MON, 11-15 points from the last 5 please and lets see where we end up.

I don't care if Everton where last on the table! This is VILLA PARK. We should be sweeping the floor with anybody! Why should we be content with a point against teams like Everton, Tottenham, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea? Are they all better than us? Are we only the 8th best team in the country? If so, MON and everybody else should stop talking us up and say we can get the 4th spot.

Last season MON were laughing it away and we were in pole position. Now he is saying we can get it, but the team is worse! Say what you want, but Barry in the team instead of Downing is a better option. And Dunne has been playing strange lately, And Warnock still makes me nervous...Luke Young never made me nervous!

Yes - Everton's debateable though if you look at the league table. Possibly 7th best

Then we should be **** celebrating that we still are 7th!

Well it is the new 4th don't ya know

Everton 2nd in the league if it had started at Xmas, our boys tired from the Wembley efforts, a good point that showed we fought till the end. I ignore the crap being spouted by many about MON, 11-15 points from the last 5 please and lets see where we end up.

I don't care if Everton where last on the table! This is VILLA PARK. We should be sweeping the floor with anybody! Why should we be content with a point against teams like Everton, Tottenham, Manchester City, Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea? Are they all better than us? Are we only the 8th best team in the country? If so, MON and everybody else should stop talking us up and say we can get the 4th spot.

Last season MON were laughing it away and we were in pole position. Now he is saying we can get it, but the team is worse! Say what you want, but Barry in the team instead of Downing is a better option. And Dunne has been playing strange lately, And Warnock still makes me nervous...Luke Young never made me nervous!

Agbonlahor looked mightily pissed off during the goal celebration, not sure what that was about

COME ON ARSENAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

good for the first 25 mins faded after, cant think why :evil: 2-2 not a bad result against Everton but the equaliser will have papered over a few cracks

gol

another powder puff cross which leads to **** all. The difference in quality between us and Everton is alarming

MON OUT TO **** FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

How long will it take for the Carling Cup Final, The Wembley Semi-Final before people wind their necks in and know the man has took as far as he can.

**** HELL

Atrocious.

i wish people would say these things when were winning or at 1-1 because its just stupid angry people who dont have a *****ng clue

didnt really have much time to say anything at 1-1 as we screwed it up again afetr a couple of mins

MON OUT TO **** FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

How long will it take for the Carling Cup Final, The Wembley Semi-Final before people wind their necks in and know the man has took as far as he can.

**** HELL

Atrocious.

i wish people would say these things when were winning or at 1-1 because its just stupid angry people who dont have a *****ng clue

didnt really have much time to say anything at 1-1 as we screwed it up again afetr a couple of mins

probably Heskey when he comes on