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1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

Premature and deceptive stats. It's about longevity. I've never seen such a devastating forward in the Premier League than Alan Shearer between 1992 and 97. Three years in a row he hit more than 30 goals, in fact his goals to games ratio at Blackburn was better than Kane's at Spurs. Injuries took their toll on Shearer in 97/98 and he wasn't the same, despite still being an excellent goal scorer. Kane could well get injured or simply lose form, time will tell.

That said he'd be well advised to not care about the stupid premier league record and go abroad.

 Don't forget that they played more games back then too, Shearer was slightly ahead in overall goal ratio at same age as Kane, but he had never hit that 1 goal per game ratio Kane now is on and never did.
If Kane have two more seasons after this with the level he's been at then he'll have equalled Shearer's peak years as far as goals goes.
 

Kane:
2014/15 21yo 34 - 21
2015/16 22yo 38 - 25
2016/17 23yo 30 - 29 (best season goal ratio ever in the Premier League history)
2017/18 24yo 9 - 8

Shearer:
1991/92 21yo 41 - 13
1992/93 22yo 21-16
1993/94 23yo 40 - 31
1994/95 24yo 42 - 34
 

Also worth to mention that one of Alan Shearer's records are about to fall coming months. He hold the most Premier League goals scored in a calendar year, 36 goals back in 1995.
Spurs have 12 games left in 2017, Harry Kane need 7 to equal Shearer, 8 to take the record for himself.

Two greats of the game though, no doubt about it.

2 hours ago, VillaChris said:

These guys all regularly scored 20 goals a season at club level for various clubs so you couldn't just announce Kane is best english striker in last 30 years until he does that imo as good as he is for Spurs (and boy has he proven me wrong).

He need to keep his current performance level. But as a goal scorer he's so far the best the Premier League has seen with the highest goal ratio of them all - english and foreign. 

Michael Owen actually never scored 20 in a league season. Kane comes off 21, 25, 29. And with 8 so far might very well go past 30 if he can stay fit this season. 

Will be interesting to see what kind of tournament he'll have with England next summer. 

7 hours ago, a m ole said:

Chances he beats Rooney’s England goal scoring record?

Will take him 5 years imo, then Shearer's PL record after 8 or so.

3 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

Not watching the game but just watched the ITV "highlights" and he seems  to have done fine.

Giggs saying he's playing like he does for Spurs...which league game would that be again?

The 21 he played last season probably, he's after all only recently hit form this season after many months with injury

97% pass completion first half, 20% more than Henderson

A Spurs fan will know that England need Harry Winks far more than Dele Alli.

22 hours ago, PaulC said:

Is it better illegally? Not from my experience

   You can get any/every game live though

1 hour ago, VillaChris said:

Do you actually want to win a game at Wembley or not?!

I'm confident we can compete with anyone. 
In many ways it might be better to face someone you have to be at your very best against, 
rather than get a team that you start speculating whether you can rotate and play half arsed against.

They  weaken their own product by not letting people stream whatever game they want to see. 
The people won't accept an inferior product, when there's better to be had illegally. 
Just look back to the music industry and Hollywood past 15-20 years. 

Not that worried about the seedings, Champions League should be about facing the very best.
Bring us a group with Bayern, Barcelona and Roma 

I've had a blast watching the U20, U17 was okey too. This U21 however doesn't excite me much, looking more forward to the U19s in july.

1 minute ago, VillaChris said:

Where's the Deschamps version with Cabaye and Sakho in?

Well, they've kept Sissoko in there
And I guess Flauvin totally flopped in english football too

Not quite the same

KANE
DELE – LALLANA
ROSE – HENDERSON – WINKS – WALKER
CAHILL – STONES – DIER
BUTLAND

RASHFORD
STERLING – BARKLEY - WALCOTT
LIVERMORE – WARD-PROWSE
BERTRAND – GIBSON – JONES – TRIPPIER
PICKFORD

VARDY
LINGARD – OXLADE-CHAMBERLAIN - TOWNSEND
DRINKWATER - WILSHERE
CRESWELL – KEANE – SMALLING - CLYNE
HART

DEFOE
REDMOND – ROONEY – ANTONIO
CHALOBAH - NOBLE
SHAW – JAGIELKA - MAGUIRE - SMITH
HEATON

Reckon most of the time it's about having had completely trust in financial advisor, rather then personal speculation in tax freud.

They go on with fotball and models, while money men take care of their financial dealings.

I'd recommend Bob Bradley. He'd take it too for sure.
Winner mentality, dedicated pure professional, brings passion to the team. First of all an organizer and a pragmatic, allows creative players to do their thing, but defence and central midfield will have their shit together.

8 hours ago, StanBalaban said:

I tried to look for the VT equivalent for Newcastle but the ones I saw only had a few posts on there in a week. Anyone know the best forums for the clubs around us

Arsenal arsenal mania
Chelsea cfcnet
Crystal Palace holmesdale
Everton nsno
Fulham friends of fulham
Leicester City foxestalk
Liverpool rawk
Manchester City bluemoon
Manchester United redcafe
Newcastle United toontastic
Norwich City pinkun
Queens Park Rangers we are the rangers boys
Southampton saintsweb
Stoke City oatcake
Sunderland readytogo
Swansea City thejackarmy
Tottenham Hotspur spurs community
West Bromwich Albion westbrom
West Ham United kumb

2 hours ago, KAZZAM said:

13 million for Ryan Mason ?!?!! and we're being partially mocked for 11 million for Kodija wtf.

 11, I've read that it's 15.Most likely it's same with Mason, initial 8 which can raise with add ons.
It's a good price to get for Mason though, considering his injury history. 
On the other hand, the Chadli deal is cheap compared to the other transfers going around. Chadli scores 10 league goals a season from midfield when he's a starter. He's no worse than Gylfi Sigurdsson in my opinion.

1 hour ago, useless said:

Huddersfield and Fulham won't be in the top two come the end of the season. Totally catchabblepable.

Wouldn't rule out Fulham.
They've signed two very solid players now in Ragnar Sigurdsson and Stefan Johansen.

21 hours ago, a m ole said:

I thought spurs were playing at Wembley for a year?

Champions League this season, 

most likely full season there 2017/18.

New White Hart Lane 2018/19 (if things go as planned)

On 15.7.2016 at 11:49, VillaChris said:

What held up their redevelopment was one business refusing to give up land...it was a Villa fan I think!

PIcture I posted above is old, you can see that business close to the left of the stadium. Demolished now.

This picture, I believe it's from september as it was named so, show the outline of one of the corners of the new stadium next to the new one.
As you can imagine, the new pitch will go far into where the old stadium was. The end closest to the construction site is what is being taken down at the moment.

2 hours ago, lapal_fan said:

Yes, all the memories, highs - lows, life changing experiences, not just for players, managers and staff, but the fans who have frequented the place.  Stories of their great grandparents standing in stadium, standing on milk crates.  All the joy and the sorrow, euphoria and anger - all held up within those four soon-to-be demolished stands. 

 

 Those memories are more or less made up in people's minds too. White Hart Lane has been rebuilt step by step before, it isn't really the same stands as anyones grandparents used to be in. I have an older colleague who consider himself Spurs, but don't really follow anything anymore. He was last at WHL in the 70s, he was surprised when I told him that it was the same stadium, he thought it already had been demolished and rebuilt as it's nothing like what he went to back then. 

The new stadium will be at the same spot, just bigger. There'll be more than enough crossover to Spurs history and the old White Hart Lane to satisfy. I have only excitement about it all.

1 minute ago, S-Platt said:

They are still playing there this season so does that mean their capacity is reduced to below 30k?  Is the new stadium going to cover part of WHL?

Final season at White Hart Lane, this, will be played with 4k less
While Champions League games will be at a full capacity Wembley.

On 4/22/2016 at 21:46, VillaChris said:

Ali is crucial as he provides goals from central midfield, Dembele's a lovely player to watch but I've always felt he never really scores or assists enough for his ability, bit like Lamela although they both play the Poch system well.

I think Pochettino stumbled across this by accident as he started the season with Bentaleb and Mason in central midfield with Dier, far too defensive minded and couldn't get the ball quick enough forward hence why Spurs only won one of their first 6 league games (that will cost them the league) and Kane didn't score until end of September. 

Different roles in the team, Dembele isn't supposed to score and assist that many. Modric didn't neither. It's a plus if he does of course, but he is first of all the dominator. He balance the midfield with his positioning, never lose possession, out muscle any player he is up against, and keep us ticking.

Wouldn't say it was by accident, however it wasn't clear that Dembele would be this player last summer. We started the season unsure about whether he'd get into the side. He has always had his abilities, but Pochettino had to work a lot on him and change his mind set to bring out the best of him.
While I don't think it's surprising that a new young player like Alli were eased in to begin with. Didn't take him that many games, and it was clear from pre season that he'd play a big part. 

On 4/22/2016 at 23:46, Zatman said:

I would actually give Kane Young Player of the Year and in most seasons he would probably win the double

Kane's been better, but the players have given their votes to Alli. Confirmed in the Spurs match program for tomorrow. 
That's why he's in the team of the year ahead of Özil, they tend to put Young Player into the side. Özil likely had more votes as he was a candidate for Player of the Year while Alli was not. Maybe Alli got the award as voters felt he was more in his breakthrough season than Kane. After all Hazard was Player of the Year last time around, but didn't win Young Player.